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A reader recently alerted us to PCs for People, an exciting new cheap Internet plan for low-income Americans. We investigated and we don’t just like what we found, we love it.
It’s fast. It’s cheap. And it’s available to a lot more low-income people than any other program. We think you’ll love it as much as we do.
Instead of being severely geographically-limited like Internet Basics or Internet Essentials, PCs for People is available virtually nationwide (anywhere the Sprint network is available).
Instead of being a program sponsored by huge corporations that really don’t want to devote significant resources to it, cheap Internet for low-income Americans is the raison d’être behind PCs for People.
Instead of offering severely limiting your internet speed and monthly usage, PCS for People offers unlimited usage and truly blazing fast speeds. For example, Comcast’s Internet Essentials just doubled its speed to 10 Mbps, but PCs for People offers average 4G LTE download speeds are between 6-8 Mbps, with peak speeds of 25 Mbps on Sprint 4G LTE and over 100 Mbps on Sprint LTE Plus*
And finally, instead of placing strict limits on who’s eligible, PCs for People has broadened its eligibility requirements to make low-cost computers and high-speed Internet available to far more low-income Americans. For example, Internet Essentials is available only to families with at least one student who qualifies for the National School Lunch Program, but PCs for People is available to anyone below 200% of federal poverty guidelinesor anyone currently enrolled in a long laundry list of government assistance programs.
In the words of CheapInternet.com‘s Chief Administrator, “This is a hell of a deal! Get it while you can.”
What’s the catch?
The PCs for People plan sounds so good — so extraordinarily good — that we thought there had to be a catch.
There is one, but it’s truly insignificant compared to what you get for your money. The catch? To get the price down to $10 per month, you are required to pay for one year up front. In our opinion, it’s well worth it. If putting together $120 is difficult, you should scrimp, save and borrow. That’s how good this program sounds.
We recently conducted an email interview with May Sorensen, PCs for People’s Director of Finance and Business Administration. We’re so impressed with the organization and its cheap Internet plan that we present the Q&A exactly as it occurred.
Interview with May Sorensen, PCs for People’s Director of Finance and Business Administration
Can you explain the basics to me? (Your website says you have individual and non-profit plans, but our audience is only interested in the individual plans.)
PCs for People offers unlimited mobile internet service on Sprint’s 4G LTE network for schools, nonprofits and low-income individuals who meet our eligibility requirements. Individuals interested in getting unlimited 4G LTE service must provide proof that they are at or below 200% of the Federal poverty level. The service is made available through Mobile Beacon on Sprint’s network.
To receive the service through PCs for People a recipient can go to one of our offices or order online though pcsrefurbished.com. For new client’s proof of eligibility, a Sprint 4G LTE modem ($74.95) and a prepaid Internet subscription are required. Prepaid subscriptions start at $10 per month and can be purchased in 3 month, 6 month and 12 month increments.
Don’t take this the wrong way, because it’s meant as a huge compliment: How did a “mere” social worker manage to bring this effort to life when the big corporate efforts appear to be so inferior to what you appear to offer?
Andrew Elofson, a Blue Earth Count social worker, wanted to help a troubled youth. He saw that the teen had a talent for technology and wanted to steer him in the right direction. He took an old computer the county no longer needed and gave it to the teen. From this simple desire to help a teenager a new program was born. The program has evolved over the last 18 years years into a well established model that helps over 35,000 people join the digital world each year.
Casey Sorensen, who began as PCs for People volunteer while attending college, saw firsthand how this program could impact the lives of low-income individuals. After college Casey began a career as a technology consultant with Deloitte. After three years of meetings with CIOs and flights around the US, Casey wanted to do something different. He started thinking about his successful career and college degree and what lead him to success. He pinpointed it a moment when he was nine and was fortunate enough to get a home computer and a DOS for Dummies book. Casey was instantly hooked and decided he wanted to pursue a career in IT from that day forward.
In 2008 Casey decided to leave Deloitte and incorporate PCs for People, so every kid could have the opportunity to own a home computer and the tools to pursue their goals. At the time, it was thought that technology could help improve the lives of low-income families by giving them a tool for education and communication but in today’s world it is a requirement for livelihood. The ideas and business model of PCs for People is simple and quite frankly we are surprised at how unique our organization is.
Since 2008 PCs for People has distributed computers to over 90,000 individuals, many of these being school-age children. For most individuals it is their first ever home computer. A key reason for PCs for People’s success is the skills Casey is able to bring to PCs for People. Casey spent his time with Deloitte automating processes for fortune 500 organizations. He has been able to leverage this experience to create a one-of-a-kind, efficient, automated machine to distribute computers and internet at unmatched prices.
Mobile, cable or DSL? If mobile, what network do you run on. And, 3G or LTE or…?
The service is mobile 4G LTE on Sprint’s network. Many of the client we provide service to have multiple housing arrangements over the course of a year. Having a mobile internet service and a laptop allow the families and individuals we service to take their connection to the world with them wherever the road of life may lead (assuming there are Sprint towers).
If mobile, do your customers get a hotspot device? If so do they pay for it and how much?
Each customer gets a 4G LTE Sprint mobile hotspot. Currently the Netgear Fuse, Novatel Mifi 500 and Franklin Wireless R850 are offered. Each modem is capable of supporting 10 wireless devices, 1 wired (via USB), has a 10 hour battery, download speed tests between 12-40Mbps and are $74.95 on our sales site.
Prepaid subscriptions start at $10 per month and can be purchased in 3 month, 6 month and 12 month increments.
1 Months for $16
3 Months for $45
6 Months for $85
9 Months for $115
12 Months for $135
To continue using the service after the initial subscription a client will need to renew. Renewal pricing is at the same low rates with the same plans available.
“From the sales site: To participate in this program and receive the low cost pricing for 4G LTE service; PCs for People must verify you meet the stated eligibility requirements. As a new client, you will need to upload proof to complete registration. When renewing, if you buy a plan that stretches past 1 year since you have provided PCs for People proof of eligibility, you will need to again provide required documentation (prior to renewing) to establish you are still eligible to receive Mobile Beacon’s service through this program.”
If mobile, is a hotspot required or can it run on a smartphone on its own?
Unfortunately, Mobile Beacon’s activation process with Sprint does not currently allow users to supply their own device. We have asked that our users be allowed to purchase or utilize existing devices several times and we will provide updates if the current policy changes.
What’s the process to sign up when the customer isn’t located in Minnesota?
Customers in Colorado or Minnesota can bring their proof of eligibility and a picture ID to their closest office. Clients anywhere across the US and Puerto Rico can register online or over the phone.
Online orders – pcsrefurbished.com
Have your proof of eligibility and credit card ready
Register and upload your proof of eligibility (as an image file)
Checkout online with your credit card
The uploaded proof of eligibility is validated by PCs for People prior to accepting payment and shipping a new device. The prepaid time on the device will start when the device is received by the client.
Phone or Mail Orders
Customers may order via phone by calling 651-354-2552. Prior to calling PCs for People must receive proof of eligibility via:
Upload from an online customer account
Emailed to internet@pcsforpeople.org
Mailed with a phone number and name to PCs for People at 1481 Marshall Avenue, St. Paul, MN 55104
Once an order is accepted and payment is received it is shipped by PCs for People and will arrive in 3-7 business days.
Speaking of Minnesota, why Minnesota and Colorado?
The county program started in Blue Earth County, Minnesota. Over the past 18 years PCs for People has refined and perfected the model and expanded to several offices across the state. In late 2014 PCs for People was conducting a live demonstration of custom automated systems that allow volunteers and people with disabilities to efficiently refurbish computers. A representative from Blue Star Recyclers, a Colorado non-profit, asked if people on the autism spectrum could run the systems PCs for People had developed. The answer was yes and a new partnership was born.
PCs for People is working on expanding the program nationwide and currently serves a nationwide need via an online offering at pcsrefurbished.com.
Do you have a limit on the number of customers you can sign up? From what I’ve read, it looks like you may be limited by the number of computers that are donated. Is that correct? We average about 8000 page views per day and I fear that you may get overwhelmed if we hype you too much. (I’m sure there are worse problems to have.)
Meeting the community need is our greatest challenge and the reason why our program has grown. When we opened in 2008 in St. Paul, MN, PCs for People had 400 computers. It was thought this would be sufficient to meet the first year’s demand. The demand for low cost technology was grossly underestimated. In two months, not only were the 400 computers gone but there was a 1,200 family waiting list. With zero marketing 1,600 households had come to PCs for People’s office in less than 2 months.
PCs for People had to step back and figure out how to meet this remarkable community need. The first step was finding thousands of computers. PCs for People decided to create a free service offering for businesses that are upgrading their IT assets. PCs for People was certified for data wiping, purchased a warehouse, truck and hired a warehouse staff. Now instead of asking for donations of computers we are able to offer pickup, NAID certified data wiping and recycling to businesses at no charge. We have worked with 400 businesses since 2008 offering these services and eliminated the waiting list (permanently) in 2010.
Our next challenge is meeting the needs on a much larger national level. We have spent the last 8 years developing a model to for this challenge and are eager to impact families across the US.
A recipient can get internet only, computer supply does not affect internet availability. For internet, we will not be able to distribute unlimited $10 per month LTE on Sprint’s network indefinitely. Due to limited bandwidth, selling indefinitely could degrade the service of Sprint’s direct customers. We do not currently know when this offer will be stopped, so we are encouraging eligible recipients to register as soon as they can.
Why are you seemingly the only company that has this kind of deal? Your qualification requirements are so much more generous than Internet Essentials and Internet Basics. Those two programs have the almost unlimited resources of huge corporations behind them. How can PCs For People offer better, faster service to a wider range of people?
Many low cost intent programs serve a great need, but are targeted at a narrow subset of the population. PCs for People understands a wider range of people need help getting computers and internet so they can realize the life changing benefits that come with being part of the digital economy. Beyond that, PCs for People is a non-profit structured to operate on small margins and we’re serving the people that come to our program is the priority versus solely generating profits.
I assume part of the answer to the previous question is that you’re a non-profit, but do you get any subsidies from any government programs?
We are not currently getting any subsidies from the government.
The only negative I see for the low-income readers of our site is that they have to come up with $100-200 upfront for your service. Most of our readers would have a real problem coming up with that kind of upfront payment. How do you address that?
On average the clients we work with are a family of 3 with an annual income of $12,300 per year. Many clients struggle to meet the bare necessities of life and have little funds to dedicate to a home internet connection. We discussed multiple models before we decided on the current offering. Some low-cost programs have leased modems where the client pays extra ongoing monthly fees or need to return the modem if the service is disconnected. Unreturned modems result in extra charges and fees. We wanted to create a prepaid program where the client owns the device, pays as they go and there are no hidden fees or extra charges.
To achieve our mission of helping people join the digital world, we understand the starting cost is a barrier that we need to keep as low as possible. The modems we offer are $140 for a consumer to purchase directly from Sprint. We are subsidizing the modems to bring costs down to $74.95 which is below Sprint’s wholesale cost. In the future we hope a bring-your-own device policy is allowed and we are also pushing to manufacture our own line of reduced cost modems. Until we are allowed to do that we will continue to offer the best deal we can and what we feel is the best internet offering in the US.
Anything I didn’t ask about that you want to mention?
We are continuously looking to improve our service, develop new partnerships and bring technology to those who cannot afford it. Suggestions, feedback and opportunities to work together are always welcome.
PCs for People is about to get very popular
If you’re looking for low-cost, high-speed Internet, PCs for People is the program you’ve been waiting for.
It’s cheap. It’s fast. And no other low-cost plan is available to so many people.
What are you waiting for? Contact PCs for People as soon as possible.
Sprint’s network (including partnerships with local and regional providers) offers 4G LTE coverage for 95% of the nation’s population.[/caption
PCs for People operates on the Sprint network. It doesn’t offer the kind of coverage offered by the top three networks (Verizon, AT&T, and T-Mobile), but it covers 95% of the people in the United States and probably includes everyone you need to call.
Here is a list of the major cities covered in each states (but keep in mind that the Sprint network also covers many smaller suburbs and towns surrounding each of these cities).
CALIFORNIA: Anaheim, Antioch, Bakersfield, Bell Gardens, Berkeley, Burbank, Carlsbad, Chico, Chula Vista, Clovis, Compton, Concord, Corona, Costa Mesa, Daly City, Downey,AEl Cajon, El Monte, Elk Grove, Escondido, Fairfield, Fontana, Fremont, Fresno, Fullerton, Garden Grove, Glendale, Hawthorne, Hayward, Hemet, Hesperia, Huntington Beach, Inglewood, Irvine, La Puente, Lancaster, Long Beach, Los Angeles, Madera, Merced, Mission Viejo, Modesto, Moreno Valley, Murrieta, Napa, North Hollywood, Norwalk, Oakland, Oceanside, Ontario, Orange, Oxnard, Pacoima, Palmdale, Palo Alto, Pasadena, Perris, Pomona, Rancho Cucamonga, Redwood City, Rialto, Riverside, Roseville, Sacramento, Salinas, San Bernardino, San Diego, San Francisco, San José, San Leandro, San Mateo, Santa Ana, Santa Barbara, Santa Clara, Santa Cruz, Santa Monica, Santa Rosa, Simi Valley, South Gate, Stockton, Sunnyvale, Sylmar, Temecula, Torrance, Tracy, Vacaville, Vallejo, Van Nuys, Ventura, Visalia, Vista, West Covina, Whittier
COLORADO: Arvada, Aurora, Boulder, Broomfield, Colorado Springs, Denver, Englewood, Fort Collins, Grand Junction, Greeley, Littleton, Longmont, Pueblo
CONNECTICUT: Bridgeport, Hartford, New Haven, Stamford, Waterbury
DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA: Washington, DC
DELAWARE: Newark, Wilmington
FLORIDA: Boca Raton, Boynton Beach, Bradenton, Cape Coral, Clearwater, Daytona Beach, Delray Beach, Fort Lauderdale, Fort Myers, Gainesville, Hialeah, Hollywood, Homestead, Jacksonville, Kissimmee, Lake Worth, Lakeland, Largo, Melbourne, Miami, Miami Beach, Naples, New Port Richey, Ocala, Orlando, Palm Bay, Panama City, Pensacola, Pompano Beach, Port Saint Lucie, Saint Augustine, Saint Petersburg, Sarasota, Spring Hill, Tallahassee, Tampa, Vero Beach, West Palm Beach, Winter Haven
MICHIGAN: Ann Arbor,IBattle Creek, Canton, Clinton Township, Dearborn, Detroit, Flint, Grand Rapids, Jackson, Kalamazoo, Lansing, Livonia, Muskegon, Rochester, Saginaw, Sterling Heights, Warren, Ypsilanti
MINNESOTA: Duluth, Minneapolis, Rochester, Saint Paul
MISSOURI: Ballwin, Columbia, Florissant, Independence, Kansas City, Lees Summit, Saint Charles, Saint Louis, Springfield, Jackson
NORTH CAROLINA: Asheville, Cary, Chapel Hill, Charlotte, Concord, Durham, Fayetteville, Gastonia, Greensboro, Greenville, High Point, Jacksonville, Raleigh, Wilmington, Winston Salem
NORTH DAKOTA: Fargo, Lincoln, Omaha
NEW HAMPSHIRE: Manchester
NEW JERSEY: Edison, Elizabeth, Jersey City, Lakewood, Newark, Paterson, Toms River, Trenton
NEW MEXICO: Albuquerque, Las Cruces, Santa Fe
NEVADA: Henderson, Las Vegas, North Las Vegas, Reno, Sparks
NEW YORK: Albany, Astoria, Bronx, Brooklyn, Buffalo, NYCorona, Elmhurst, Flushing, Jamaica, New York, Ridgewood, Rochester, Schenectady, Staten Island, Syracuse, Woodside, Yonkers
All of the Netgear, Alcatel, and Franklin hotspots work well with only one device connected to them. Signal and bandwidth strength depend on your location and building structure. If you live in a remote region of the country, no device will be able to pick up any signal no matter how good it is.
PCs for People replaced the Franklin R850 hotspot with a Franklin T10 hotspot due to the Sprint network shutdown on June 30, 2022 and replacing it with T-Mobile service. The R850 device would often disconnect and switch channels when it was powered on. A weak signal and interference from other wireless devices may have caused this problem. The R850 also only used the 2.4 GHz Wi-Fi band which only has up to 11 available channels. The T10 model has both 2.4 and 5 GHz band access and the 5GHz band has much more channels to select from (45). There are fewer Wi-Fi devices using the 5GHz band in my area. I went into the T10 device menu and changed the settings to move over to 5 GHz and a higher channel setting from those in the 2.4 GHz band. My connection speed went from 72 Mbps to 433 Mbps. A six fold increase. I do not get any disconnections or channel switching occurrences. I went from downtown rush hour traffic experience to a rural open road on the information superhighway!
Based on the FAQ page, you cannot use your own device. Also, each household can only have one hotspot registered to the service. If you need a replacement and are approved to buy one, the previous one is deactivated.
I’m very interested in obtaining a laptop and wireless flash drive. A friend in Mpls MN told me that he got all set up for $50 by pcsforpeople st Paul with wireless and free DELL laptop
I have been fortunate to have discovered your company in 2018 and love it. It was discontinued last week and I instantly renewed on the 28th for another year. I use it to communicate with my doctor’s via telehealth and unfortunately I am still waiting on reactivation.
I’ve tried emailing but they keep extending the time frame.
I have already missed one telehealth appointment for my medication refills and am in dire need of them. The payment has been made as I stated and it’s been a lifesaver for me to use your internet as I haven’t had home internet before because of cost. If you could please look into what the holdup in reactivating is about I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you.
Unfortunately, Brenda, we are not PCs for People. This is an independent informational website. You will need to contact PCs for People using the contact info available in the article above.
Here’s where you can find all the plans available. Check them out carefully to find the one that fits your needs best, then enroll in that plan using the contact info we provide:
I have been with PCs for People for several years and I am so THANKFUL that I found this organization. They have given me the opportunity to save hundreds of dollars on my internet expense. This savings has given me more money in my budget for other things I need. I am on a fixed budget so every dollar I can save means a better quality of life. It was an easy process to get on the program with fast service to receive my modem. I have never had any technical problems and I run my laptop, smart tv and tablet from the same modem. I hope that I will continue to be able to have my internet service through this organization. I cannot afford $50 or more for monthly internet service. It may be hard for some people to come up with the money to buy the modem but when you do the math,you will realize the tremendous savings you will have with the low, low monthly internet fee. THANK YOU SO MUCH PCS FOR PEOPLE.!!!!
Off the top of our heads, we’d say that PCs for People probably gets better reviews than any other service provider. That’s not to say they’re perfect, but their customer satisfaction level seems to be very high.
It appears that the Internet subscription plans are not available at this time. You can send them an email at sales@pcsforpeople.org to get more information.
Update. The PCs for People website now has two hotspot devices to subscribe to their internet service. There is a Coolpad Surf and Netgear Zing device listed for $80. Internet cost is now $15 per month and up to $180 per year of service.
Update. PCs for People website now lists three hotspot devices for sale at $80 or $100 each. Netgear Zing price went up and a Franklin R910 device was added.
Will B.says
On July 27, 2019, I made a complaint against PCs for People about the defective of the monitor and extremely slow internet from PCs for People bundle. (please read my 7/27/2019 comment.) I didn’t renew the internet and went with AT&T internet for low income. I am VERY HAPPY with AT&T internet speed. AT&T gave me a fiber optic internet for $10/mo (no tax & no fee). I am writing this complaint against PCs for People again because the PC hard drive itself went dead today (3/16/2020.) I bought this PC bundle for $399 on May 15, 2019. I charged it to my credit card and just paid it all off in February 2020. I’m totally upset that the PC is no longer useable because it was working for LESS THAN one year! I HIGHLY DON’T RECOMMEND ANYONE TO DO BUSINESS WITH PCs FOR PEOPLE.
I checked the AT&T website and fiber internet costs $49.99/month. I do not see anything that shows $10/month. Is that some kind of special plan? By the way, hotspot wireless internet is always slower than fiber optic internet. A direct connection will always have better bandwidth than a connection that is completely over the air.
Thank you. I located the Access from ATT webpage and the cost of the plan depends on your location. It could be $10 per month. The other plans that I had seen were for the general public.
We’re not here to defend PCs for People, but if you look through the comments below you’ll find very few complaints. Remember that these plans are intended to give people basic internet to help them get jobs, to help their kids in school, to help with doctors appointments. They were never intended to help people “watch movies or shows” or with gig-sucking things like online gaming.
I signed up for pcs for people mobile internet hotspot in december 2018. I paid for one year service in advance. Big Mistake! It was advertised as 4G LTE which worked OK for a few months. The problem is that if you use more data than they like, then they will blacklist your hotspot. So now they have blacklisted my hotspot and all I get for speeds is less than 1mb up or down. I have called them numerous times and they refuse to do anything about it. I called them a few minutes ago, and had to wait quite a while in the que. Then when the call seemed to go through, all I got from their end was a load static noise. I’m starting to think that they have even blacklisted my home phone because I have called them so many times. It’s possible that this their standard procedure in the way they handle people who won’t give up on trying to call them about the problem. I checked with the Better Business Bureau and they have a long list of complaints. Complaints about them are all over the Internet, so BUYER BEWARE.
What you call “blacklisting” is what’s called “throttling” in the internet business. Check the terms and conditions on PCs for People’s website. It should tell you how many high speed gigs you are entitled to before your speed is “throttled.” Sounds like you are a very heavy internet user. Correct?
They do not “blacklist” the hotspot. They would throttle your SIM card ID account. Sprint has a disclaimer on their website that any service going over 23 GB a month is subject to lower speeds. This applies to all Sprint customers, not just those using the PCs for People service. Wireless services are subject to capacity issues, so if you want true unlimited access, go for cable, FIOS, or satellite connections, no wifi.
PCs For People gets their internet through some other charity who gets it through Sprint and I don’t think they can do anything on there end about throttling. I normally go through atleast 200 gb a month and never have any problems. I have saved hundreds and hundreds of $ in the last year with this very nice program. I do wish I could pit my sim card in a bigger stronger device but mehh I’ll just get some wifi repeaters or something. Thanks PCs for people and thanks to this website for helping me find them.
I got a PC & internet (provided by Sprint.) from PCsforpeople. I would give 2-stars out of 5-stars overall. REASONS: I got a desktop with a monitor that I was barely be able to see anything on the screen. I had to be in totally darkness to see the screen but then I cannot easily see my keyboard. This monitor’s a nonadjustable screen to make it brighter (it’s gray out.) I paid $15 extra for this 22″ monitor JUNK. To ship it back, it’s NOT a cost effective. Luckily, one of my friends has an old monitor that’s a lot better than the one I got from this company. If I would have known, I would not paid $15 to upgrade to this 22″ screen. BUT, the worst part of the deal was the internet. I got a mobile hotspot R850 device for the wireless internet. There is no modem or router provided. The speed, most of the time, is horrible (download from 2.05 Mbps to 8.1 Mbps; upload from 0.64 Mbps to 1.86 Mbps). I paid in advance for the internet. So, I will have to wait until next year (year 2020) before canceling it and find a difference ISP. I HIGHLY NOT RECOMMEND THIS COMPANY!
Pc’s for people is not affordable nor reliable, it’s $215 to start out if you wanna pay $11.25 a month plus Hotspot, otherwise it is $16 a month, i don’t think many low income people can afford that, plus the service is very spotty and unreliable…
We get tons of complaints about all the other low-income internet plans, but every few complaints about PCs for People. Guess you can’t please everyone.
I know the service has been around for awhile but I’m still a little concerned about giving strangers my SSI number. I’ve tried to call the office in Denver and the main office to find out how sensitive data is secured but cannot get through to a human. How do you actually speak to a PCs For people rep?
PCs for People is completely legit, M. Try sending the an email via their website. They have always been very responsive to us and we’re sure you’ll have the same experience.
I also had the same concern about exposing my SSN to them. They replied that the number can be covered over when you provide them a copy. They do need your name and address though, so that could not be blanked out.
Stay away from PCs for People, horrible service, spotty coverage, i had to tape the expensive crappy Hotspot to a window to get Sprint’s crappy and spotty 3G, and trust me i did my research before ordering,checked their coverage maps and everything checked out fine,till i actually tried the service, this service shouldn’t be recommended to low income people,It’s neither affordable nor reliable, now i’m out $220, there is no refund for the POS Hotspot they make you buy, hopefully they will refund me the prepaid internet i paid for, Stay Away….
We’re not sure, but we think this may be the first negative comment we’ve ever received about PCs for People. Sorry you had a bad experience, Gianluca.
This is fantastic! Is this service available in Omaha Nebraska at all? I do not see this city referenced above… Can this service be order online -for Nebraska’ address-? Thanks for any information.
PCs for People should not be on your list of cheap internet if you MUST be 200% below federal poverty [which means you’d eligible for food stamps/Medicaid], and pay $215 up front; you MUST purchase their hot spot device for $80. Anyone that’s truly 200% below poverty would have a very difficult time making a $215 payment. If you are 200% below poverty, all federal Lifeline providers give you a free cell phone w/unlimited talk & text, plus 2-3gb of free internet/data, and $0.01 to $0.05 per minute for additional family members.
I contacted P2P, if the internet provider Mobile Beacon should go bankrupt, there is NO REFUND for unused advanced payment, or the modem; which can not be used for any other purpose except for their internet program; the exact same device is sold on ebay for less. There is also NO REFUND if the modem is defective, as all the equipment they sell are older refurbished devices; I’m surprised that these modems can actually process 4G LTE speeds. Although they claim ‘UNLIMITED INTERNET’ the fine print also states that they will significantly throttle users consuming more than 10gb monthly. Watching 2-3 online training school lectures or movies will easily take you over 10gb. CAUTION – BUYERS BE AWARE!!
We’re pretty sure that math is not your strongest subject, Mee. Your reading comprehension appears to be a bit suspect, too.
“Individuals interested in getting unlimited 4G LTE service must provide proof that they are at or below 200% of the Federal poverty level.”
That means they can be eligible if they make two times more than the poverty guidelines. It’s one of the most generous plans out there in that these loose regulations mean more people can be eligible.
Mobile Beacon does not control how the network operates. I could not find any reference to a 10 GB limitation anywhere on Sprint or Mobile Beacon’s website.
You’ll need to contact PCs for People customer service to find out specific coverage areas, but they have told us in the past that they now cover parts of all 50 states. Good luck.
Henry, I have just received my p2p internet and hotspot. I was told they don’t do more than month to month (i.e.no yearly etc. plans). Also, They sent me a hotspot of their choosing; I had no choice in the matter. That said, I’m *loving* my service, and the person who got me set up worked with me to make everything as smooth and painless as possible! 😀
Lisa
I am currently a subscriber at PCs for People and I just renewed for an annual subscription in October. On their website, I still see 3 month, 6 month, 9 month and 12 month plans available. The only hotspot that is being offered is the Franklin R850 from what I see. Supposedly, the other models are no longer available. There is another Sprint provider that does offer a service that is month to month. Connectall.org offers a $11.95 monthly charge that renews each month. They also require you to purchase the Franklin R850 hotspot for $99, so your initial charge will be $110.95. They do not have income requirements unlike PCs for People. Their offer is better than the 4GCommunity.org service that shut down on November 30, 2017.
Posting an update regarding the Connectall.org monthly internet service provided by Sprint for $11.95 a month. The website no longer offers the service, so possibly enough subscribers were enrolled. The enrollment eligibility was not income dependent as with other providers.
Posting another update regarding the Connectall.org internet service that is provided by Mobile Citizen through Sprint. The $11.95 a month service appears to be low income qualifying like PCs for People. You have to be eligible by registering and setting up an account before you can subscribe to the service. I did not subscribe through their website, so I was probably wrong when I said that it was not income dependent. The hotspot model that they are now offering has changed. It was the Franklin R850 and is now the coolpad SURF Hotspot. They charge $99 for the hotspot. But they do offer month to month billing at a price similar to PCs for People yearly subscription price,
RUN! DONT WALK RUN!!!! PCs for People is great —- IF and ONLY IF you pay for service annually and never have to contact them for any Customer Service. I’ve qualified for their service being told I was in a “prime service location”. Which is a lie. Unfortunately I paid upfront and have spent the last 6 months with no internet access.. because they offer discounts they think I’m a poor idiot who should lick their toes for treating me like garbage and stealing my money. AT&T Access program is cheaper, hard wired fiber optic, with WiFi, truely unlimited and faster. Not to mention I didn’t have to pay $100 for a $30 hotspot. They sent me a Netgear NGV599 and a tech to install everything FREE and my first bill was $10.33. if you are in an area ATT has slower service only it would be $5.33. Forget PCs for People they treat ppl like trash. Never again. BBB should be concerned.
This is one of the very few negative comments we’ve ever received about PCs for People. It’s not our job to defend any of the service providers, but PCs for People is unique among low-income internet service providers because it is a small organization dedicated to bringing internet to people who otherwise couldn’t afford it. It’s not operated by a high-tech communications giant like AT&T or Comcast. That explains most of your problems, Jenna. On the other hand, they do great work with no dreams of billion dollar paydays that the operators of the giant firms may enjoy.
I don’t understand the complaint. If you found a better deal at AT&T why did you bother to subscribe with PCs for People? Hard wired connections will ALWAYS be better than over the air wireless connections. Not every location is a Sprint network accessible region. Regarding the cost of the hotspot device, yes, it can be rather high in cost and if there are service issues, you wasted your money on it. But this is the risk that you assume when you purchase it. The Spring WIMAX service was shut down a few years ago and all of the Sprint WIMAX routers became useless. You had unlimited service that turned off and you were left with a router that could not be used for other purposes (at least regarding 4G LTE service).
I’ve been a customer of PC’S for People for over 2 years and have had exactly 2 issues with their products OR their service. Customer service was quick to respond and took care of the issues quickly and expertly.
I recommend them to everyone I know and have several friends who are satisfied customers as well.
If you read the information on their website regarding internet service you will see they tell you to contact sprint to make sure your address is covered and that it is your responsibility to do so.
If I lived in an area with cheap AT&T of course 4G wouldn’t make sense but we don’t all live in AT&Ts customer areas. In fact I think a lot of these comments are from salty broadband salesmen angry that we’re getting a better deal and getting to live where we want. PCs for people are also super nice every time I talk to them. If you let your service expire it will take a few days to come back on after you pay they’re pretty busy.
The prices for the PCs for People internet have increased on November 22, 2018. I received an email about the increase and it is now reflected on their website.
1 month is $16.00
3 months is $45.00
6 months is $85.00
9 months is $115.00
12 months is $135.00
So the lowest monthly cost will now be $11.25 excluding promotional discounts.
You can’t apply here, Francine, because we are an independent informational website, NOT PCs for People. But you can find PCs for People’s contact info in the article above.
I am 55 years old and my wife is 68. I am on disability and receive food stamps. my wife, received disability until she reached 65 years of age. After that, she receives Social Security Retirement. We are on fixed incomes, our combined income is $2207.00
We are not PCs for People, Richard. This is an independent informational website, which means no one from PCs for People is likely to see your comment. You need to contact the company’s customer service team using the contact info we provide in the article above.
The current maximum monthly income for two people for this program is $2,743 per month. You need copies of your ID plus a copy of an eligibility document (such as a tax return or benefits statement) in order to apply.
PCs for People is now in all fifty states. We can’t tell you if they service your part of Charleston, but a quick call to customer service should get you the answer you’re looking for.
Take 10% off all PCs for People orders till Sept 30th 2018…
I believe all future and current eligible customers can use this code.
Coupon Code: backtoschool10
Start the school year by taking 10% off all purchases at http://www.pcsrefurbished.com ! Of Snagging yourself a new computer to do homework or an internet subscription.
Insert the coupon code backtoschool10 at online checkout or tell our in-store cashiers the code to get the 10% off discount.
Offer expires September 30th, 2018.
@ May Sorensen and Casey Sorensen
Since I’m not affiliated and have no association, approval or endorsement on your part.
Would you now be in the possition to have a volunter of your team, staff member to officially offer support here to users questions and comments?
Where else on the internet has covered as much about your purpose than your own site, but, people don’t find it as easily as the catchy name of this site – Cheap Internet.
This is where they find out about you and your purpose, the huge discounts you offer in internet, computers and accessories related…
I’ve tried to call it quits on my participations in this topic a year ago. Please : ) consider of your personnel to offer support weekly, bi-monthly or when there’s something posted.
70,000 Computers, 19 Years, Thousands Impacted
Since 1998, PCs for People has been a driving force behind digital inclusion efforts across the US. As a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization, our mission is to provide a bridge across the digital divide that offers employment and educational opportunities to low-income individuals, families with children, and those with disabilities.
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I’ve been seeing for some time now that PCs for People unlimited mobile internet service being referred to as “Bridging the Gap” Internet Offer in program and service on it’s site.
Some things seem to be in a state of flux with PCs for People going back and forth.
As back here in my post of May 13, 2018 at 5:25 am – the Franklin Wireless R850 in online sales was replaced by the Franklin Wireless R910 modem with a ($129.95) price tag in the big package of (4G LTE Modem + 12 Months) internet subscription.
That made the big package total cost of $249.95 then, now the site (as of this post) is having the Franklin Wireless R850 shown there and the big package (4G LTE Modem + 12 Months internet) pricing just under $200.00 once again.
But, still on the (link offered below) it still has under the heading of “Initial Pricing” this-
‘To get started you will need a 4G LTE modem ($129.95) and a prepaid Internet subscription. Subscriptions start at $10 per month and can be purchased in 3 month, 6 month and 12 month increments.’
Now today, you don’t even have to be a P4P customer already to get the 1-month subscription of ($15.00) offered to you, and can get it with a Franklin R850 modem ($79.95) for the total price of $94.95. https://www.pcsrefurbished.com/sales/buyInternet.aspx?product=1736
This opens the door for people wanting to test the Sprint mobile internet from PCs for People in there hometown area.
Then as I understand what’s in print on their site under the heading of “Modem Return Policy”
‘Items must be returned within 7 days from the date the device is received.’
So as a new subscriber – if the Sprint mobile internet from PCs for People doesn’t pan out for you and the modem is returned within 7 days of the received date.
(Possibly at least back in transit to PCs for People within that 7 days time period, may qualify you for a refund.)
This would be a question to ask before making a purchase, and get the persons name you’ve spoken to and their title and the location the call was answered at. Contact PCs for People at 651-354-2552 or sales@pcsforpeople.com
If you returned the modem you’d still be charged for the 1-month subscription ($15.00), as the reads “Subscription Refund Policy” ‘Internet subscriptions may be refunded for any unused months remaining on your current subscription term.’
Since you purchased the 1-month subscription of ($15.00) – you’ll not get this back or prorated, but, if you purchased more months of a subscription term – those full unused months are refunded.
Return shipping labels are the responsibilities of the purchaser.
We didn’t see a sale held by PCs For People during the Digital Inclusion Week as last year. So better late than never they are offering a Independence Day Coupon for 10% off on a computer, accessories or in renewing your internet service.
Head to http://www.pcsrefurbished.com, select the items you wish to purchase and enter the coupon code julyfour1810
at checkout using the box provided for it.
I suspect this code is good till the end of today and for today only…
PCs For People Stores Are Closed On July 4th -but- online sales work 24/7 to signups and/or purchases of customers already having accounts.
Please note that their brick and motor stores are closed in observance of our American Independence Day. They’ll return to regular hours on July 5, 2018. So make a purchase at least today on the 4th, and if needed upload your required proof of eligibility.
Then someone will confirm the sale when their stores opens during regular hours.
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After taking a closer look:
@laurie santolino,
Printed it says –
Modem Warranty – 60-Day Mobile Beacon and One Year Limited Manufacturer Warranty
Mobile Beacon currently provides a 60-day hardware warranty through the network provider and a one year limited warranty is provided by the device manufacturer. The warranty starts from the date a device is activated on behalf PCs for People, not when the device is received by the end user. PCs for People provides device support, but does not provide warranty replacement for internet devices.
The “GRAY” areas are “The warranty starts from the date a device is activated on behalf PCs for People” and “PCs for People provides device support, but does not provide warranty replacement for internet devices.”
As well as possibly PCs for People is to act as our agent or intermediatory in fashion to our modem warranty replacements – my thoughts and words…
There’s nothing said, but I seem to see a “path” that any modem warranty replacement for a PCs For People customer must undertake – past the 60-day hardware warranty that Mobile Beacon covers through the network provider (Sprint).
All would still have to be routed from the Device Manufacturer -to- Mobile Beacon -then on to- PCs For People – and then finally to the customer needing the device warrantied.
Simply because “Mobile Beacon’s activation process does not currently allow users to supply their own device.” Same as if, a replacement modem came from the Device Manufacturer directly to you the customer. Mobile Beacon wouldn’t have activated it yet, and it wouldn’t work with PCs For People Internet Subscription you’ve paid for already – numbers of the modem device has to be registered through Mobile Beacon end with Sprint first.
Derek Volk answer my be valid, if say the ZTE modem you have is in short supply at PCs For People or even at Mobile Beacon end.
I know all this doesn’t help in anything but to inform you mostly.
I see no reason why you couldn’t upgrade on your own to the last modem offered by the PCs For People website in the “Franklin Wireless R910”. If the site won’t allow it — call them and speak to a sales manager. If do you get another ZTE modem later warrantied, you could sell it after unlocking it with the help of PCs For People for anyone to use with Sprint on one of their MVNO’s or Sprint directly.
The only time you’ll see an offer for 9-months, is if your a CUSTOMER of PCs for People already and login to your account there.
CUSTOMERS will see a 1-month as well as the 9-months options for Internet Subscription renewals -or- whatever time has pasted in using the service and your able to add back in topping up to 12-months and no more than 15-months being possible in total. Besides 9-months adds only $100. in costs if your a customer already and not seen by a new customer anyways.
I’m sure with everything printed on the site you’ve gotten confused somehow. Otherwise a link where you’ve seen it would help.
So I have to agree with Cheap Internet the price for Internet Subscriptions hasn’t changed as of the prices stated on their site for new customers. https://pcsrefurbished.com/
I would *caution* anyone shopping for the Big Package to notice the “Internet Packages” blocks of info. and see the “First and Last” buttons under them to find the block telling about and 4G LTE Modem + 12 Months, as it’s hidden now having to use the last button in seeing it.
If all is as you’ve said, then it’s time to go outside the box.
Make a BBB and FTC report and complaint on the business.
In response to all, that is if P4P answers you in those mediums do state you want to be credit for the time that you were unable to use the internet service and seek a working replacement upgrade to the newest hotspot available…
What’s the location of P4P are you calling? They do have multiple locations and offices, you might try calling each one and ask to speak to the Internet manager/SUPERVISOR of each till someone takes ownership of your problem. Request a callback and give a 2-3 hour window of two weekdays for someone in authority to call you.
Hope it works out for you and possibly if not try the partner Mobile Beacon. I would know how to advise you there, but someone from MB could give insights to you.
-Scam Advisory-
Got an email from P4P about Phone Scams.
“PCs for People will never call you to remove viruses, remotely control your computer or ask you for money for repair services over the phone.
We will also never ask for your password or login information over the phone. If you receive a call from someone claiming to be from PCs for People and they ask for money to repair your computer, ask for control of your computer remotely or ask for a password, hang up immediately. You can call us at 651-354-2552 if you have questions or require tech support.”
Iv’e had pcsforpeople since Oct 2017. The ZTE hot spot quit working the first week in May. Since May 7th i have called 5-6 times and also emailed. Said it was under warranty. They told me it will be 7-10 business days to receive a replacement. It is now going on a month and still nothing. The last 2 times i called i was told it was already shipped but wasn’t. It has been almost a month and every time i call after holding for an hour plus they say the same thing that they have to check with their internet manager. I asked if i could purchase a new one but was told the replacement had already been shipped. They have been dishonest to me from day one. Derek Volk did reply to one of my emails saying due to the uptick in warranty replacement requests there’s been a delay and would update me. Still nothing. Iv’e asked to talk with a manager but they say there is no manager. Very disappointing.
Try writing to the president of the organization. That usually gets their attention. We have a feeling that TD Steve, one of our readers and a huge PCs for People fan, will have a response to your comments.
Go figure… Low Income is a curse ! ! !
A tug of war if you well, and then when you gain a little ground it’s snatched out from under you – let me explain.
But- first Cheap Internet should think about a start-up sister site something in the regards of life as an low-income family, person, retired and disabled status in todays world here the US of A…
Just as your lists for cheap internet and the companies in the break downs looking at the States and Cities where a low-income get the most bang for their buck to living modestly on a fixed income around 8,000. to 16,000 yearly. Offer articles of government entitlements, legal aid, retailer programs catering to low-income, strategies, planning, debt handling, what money businesses to steer clear of, buying used over new, and the like.
Now. Actually I’m (lets just call it) two years in to PCS FOR PEOPLE program for my Internet. I’ve managed to have a little more money in doing it with the big package (Device + 12 months subscription), all at once of the then price just under $200. for the whole year…
NOW it’s about $250.00 for the big package…
The real value and benefit is you’re paying for the whole year up front, no monthly bills and after the first year it’s only a subscription costs. Being $120.00 for a years subscription if you paid up front…
The internet was costing me and has came down from a total of $600. yearly from a major company for the slowest speed I could afford in internet and in making the monthly payments I was paying – which were a drag to stay abreast and on top of or be penalized.
This yields not really a surplus now by any means as if my cup runnith over. Just my being able to pay all the bills I owe in a months time and being current with them and a few bucks left.
A $120. yearly cost for unlimited internet helps out a great deal, but unlike the Lifeline government phone program which is similar in pricing but has it’s limits by States – this as in sole INTERNET is all on you my dear friends. Go mobile and unlimited with PCS FOR PEOPLE without any limits if you qualify.
I still qualify for my PCS FOR PEOPLE with the SNAP/EBT program, but managed to get a secured credit card started for bad times and emergencies as well as building some kind of credit. That required a savings account as the security on the CC and I’ve doubled the required minimum opening balance.
This in turn has lowered my monthly food stamps allotment by $55.00 now or more than a third. Man, I have a few choice words every time I think about it, not as a rap in the mouth, but as painful as getting kicked in the mouth and losing teeth kind of pain.
Nothing has changed to my Gross/Net incomes and I can only think it’s something in the aspect of assets and resources. I don’t have to file taxes, but did an OIC (offer in compromise) or whatever it’s called a few years back with legal aids help, with an stipulation by IRS – I had to file taxes for the next five years of they’d reverse their decision with everything due. So I’ve been filing both State and Federal returns, but State was not necessary – I just wanted a complete record of those five years…
So Low-Income is a cursed status and the system keeps one there figuring out a way to take away any forward momentum in gains and rap it to costing you more in the end : {
We’re going to politely decline to start the website you suggest, TD. We have our hands full trying to handle CheapInternet.com and FreeGovernmentCellPhones.net.
Catching up with PCs For People:
Don’t see the 10% off sale I’d hoped for this time of the year as prior years yielded. Black Friday 15% and Cyber Monday 10% off site wide sales I do hope remain still…
P4P looks to have updated to yet another mobile hotspot-modem.
This Hotspot modem is the newest of older listed here in their order made available through P4P –
Franklin Wireless R910
[No Longer Available – 4G LTE Hotspot modems Device List]
ZTE Warp Connect
Franklin Wireless R850
Netgear Fuse
Novatel MiFi 500
@ no longer available dosen’t mean not supported or no longer working with P4P Internet Subscriptions…
I’m still using the Netgear Fuse AC779S of two years back – works still with my P4P Internet subscription renewals.
The P4P’s big package 4G LTE Modem + 12 Months = $249.95 now.
Franklin R910 Hotspot ($129.95)
12 Months of Internet Service ($120.00)
Unlimited 4G LTE Service*
Use at home or on the road
Customer must prove eligibility
No Throttled speeds
No data caps
No hidden fees
YES, that’s up from just under $200.00 as it was when I joined and because of the newest 4G LTE Hotspot modem, as it lays on Sprint’s part in connecting to their network, hopefully adding more seurity and encryption to the Wi-Fi features of the Hotspot.
Seen one review site saying – “Franklin R910 Mobile Hotspot – Also known as the Franklin Wireless R850 Hotspot, Franklin Wireless MHSR910”.
Initial and Renewal Pricing – For P4P Internet’s subscriptions remain the same!
To get started you will need a 4G LTE modem ($129.95) and a prepaid Internet subscription package.
Subscriptions and renewals start at $10 per month and can be purchased in 3 month, 6 month and 12 month increments.
•3 Months for $40
•6 Months for $75
•12 Months for $120
Q- Can I bring my own modem?
A- No. Unfortunately, Mobile Beacon’s activation process does not currently allow users to supply their own device. P4P will provide updates if the current process changes. https://pcsrefurbished.com/about/internetFAQ.aspx
P4P = my short form term of PCs For People, the non-profit here…
Hearing word of T-Mobile and Sprint are in talks of mergers again and with the Republican headed FCC what you think will be an outcome. Wonder what Mobile Beacon thinks ? The court ordered outcome for low-income internet access that Sprint took over was, I believe till 2036 or something like it. If the speed was reduced to being unusable then 2036 wouldn’t mean much. Though I’ve herd this merger is to insure one of these companies can compete with the majors in 5G mobile technology.
Companies merging and buying others is that really growing America and making America great? I would think not. . .
What would be a name for this company – T-rint ?
OFFTOPIC
With robots taking jobs of humans where are the handicap to work?
I’m seeing security cameras offering 4G SIM options to use in off-beat locations, most part now where internet IP cameras can’t work.
Gas prices are to raise first time in 4 years to an average $2.7? this year.
Free DNS pools to locate relatives, banks and sells or gives away your info. and is bad as it’s not protected by the courts and laws where people have the same rights being observed, think a few generations from now what will come from this.
That’s good Cheap Internet.
Would this be the first sole company in this tier (major network) to offer both GMS and CDMA networks from one company label and also of the world?
Down stream tiers like MVNO’s are doing it in offering both networks – but a major network supplier of the network has never attempted this to my knowledge.
Hi Cheap Internet,
Maybe it’s time for a “Start-Here” page/form from Cheap Internet to help consumers, and then reap-in sales commissions from the low income Internet companies.
Of course a disclaimer in the page/form that Cheap Internet stands to gain revenue from their affiliate link only from the Internet Provider the user has deemed a good match for them.
This site is huge for someone trying to relate all the info. viable to them in one session and walk away knowing there wasn’t something better, or if at all and give up.
This is the digital age and information given at high speed, so people don’t want do the heavy lifting or extensive leg work anymore in digesting mesh-mash enormous facts. So simplify it with a start-here of sorts.
So offer a start-here page/form to fill out without all their personal info. related, name-income-address-etc…
Answering questions that funnels one towards the best options per answers given.
Questions like:
How will you qualify or be eligible.
( )-Income-based government assistance program – food stamps (SNAP) or other qualifying assistance.
( )-low-income – below 150%-200% of federal poverty guidelines.
( )-at least one student who qualifies for the National School Lunch Program.
What kind of delivery for Internet are you interested in.
( )-mobile data internet.
( )-cable.
( )–satellite
For a Metro or rural area.
( )metro
( )-rural
etc.. etc.. and so forth
Then when that’s sorted out by users answers give a review page to continue with your affiliate link(s) that Cheap Internet will get a % of the sale.
Users personal information (name, address, income, eligibility) will only go on the supplier of their Internet provider signup form on it’s own website that your affiliate link points too.
So how good is the internet service. I have been reading articles on your website and trying to determine which service I would be eligible for and is affordable on my current limited budget. I have been with US Cellular for years and can no longer afford internet through them. My internet service has always been excellent (fast)with them. Phone service has been excellent as well although there always seem to be hidden charges they don’t mention when adjusting plans.
That question is almost impossible to answer, Angie. For example, the internet service we have is much slower than our next door neighbor’s, yet we have the same service provider.
Hi Angie
Please find this helpful – not in any order of choice/requirements.
Access from AT&T
Access from AT&T costs just $5.00 a month and brings you relatively fast 3 Mbps download speed.
5 and 10 Mbps is available for $10 per month.
Take note, that AT&T will automatically give you the fastest speed available in your service area.
There will be data limits for people using the program, up to 600GB a month, and overage charges for anyone who uses more.
At least one person in your home must receive food stamps (SNAP). And you must live in AT&T’s 21-state service area.
Must not have – outstanding debt for AT&T fixed Internet service within the last six months or outstanding debt incurred under this program. https://www.cheapinternet.com/low-income-internet/att-access
Comcast’s Internet Essentials
Internet service speeds to up to 15/2 Mbps.
40 hours of free out-of-home WiFi access per month.
Comcast expanding Essentials for low-income senior citizens from five cities and metropolitan areas to 12.
Internet Essentials is now available in every area served by Comcast.
$9.95 per month and cannot have been a Comcast internet subscriber in the last 90 days. https://www.cheapinternet.com/low-income-internet/internet-essentials
Spectrum Internet Assist
Speeds of up to 30 Mbps downstream and 4 Mbps upstream.
The Data cap eliminating on this new plan means you can use all the internet you want.
Aimed at two important groups, families with students who participate in the National School Lunch Program
and Seniors 65 and older who receive Supplemental Security Income.
You will not qualify if you have had a Charter, Time-Warner or Bright House broadband subscription within 60 days of enrolling.
And if you have any outstanding bills with any of the three companies.
Low-income families and seniors can get unlimited high-speed internet for just $14.99 per month. https://www.cheapinternet.com/low-income-internet/spectrum-internet-assist
PC’s for People
Just scroll back up to the article above…
Hi Angie,
Most will have added federal fees and state and local taxes, PCs For People dosen’t I believe and maybe because it’s a non-profit offering?
Please find this below helpful – not in any order of choice/requirements.
Access from AT&T
Access from AT&T costs just $5.00 a month and brings you relatively fast 3 Mbps download speed.
5 and 10 Mbps is available for $10 per month.
Take note, that AT&T will automatically give you the fastest speed available in your service area.
There will be data limits for people using the program, up to 600GB a month, and overage charges for anyone who uses more.
At least one person in your home must receive food stamps (SNAP). And you must live in AT&T’s 21-state service area.
Must not have – outstanding debt for AT&T fixed Internet service within the last six months or outstanding debt incurred under this program. https://www.cheapinternet.com/low-income-internet/att-access
Comcast’s Internet Essentials
Internet service speeds to up to 15/2 Mbps.
40 hours of free out-of-home WiFi access per month.
Comcast expanding Essentials for low-income senior citizens from five cities and metropolitan areas to 12.
Internet Essentials is now available in every area served by Comcast.
$9.95 per month and cannot have been a Comcast internet subscriber in the last 90 days. https://www.cheapinternet.com/low-income-internet/internet-essentials
Spectrum Internet Assist
Speeds of up to 30 Mbps downstream and 4 Mbps upstream.
The Data cap eliminating on this new plan means you can use all the internet you want.
Aimed at two important groups, families with students who participate in the National School Lunch Program
and Seniors 65 and older who receive Supplemental Security Income.
You will not qualify if you have had a Charter, Time-Warner or Bright House broadband subscription within 60 days of enrolling.
And if you have any outstanding bills with any of the three companies.
Low-income families and seniors can get unlimited high-speed internet for just $14.99 per month. https://www.cheapinternet.com/low-income-internet/spectrum-internet-assist
PC’s for People
Just scroll back up to the article above…
Hi Angie,
Most will have the added federal fees and state and local taxes, PCs For People dosen’t I believe and maybe because it’s a non-profit offering, that was in some way court ordered in part for their partners company that they joined with or under?
Please find this below helpful – not in any order of choice/requirements.
Access from AT&T
Access from AT&T costs just $5.00 a month and brings you relatively fast 3 Mbps download speed.
5 and 10 Mbps is available for $10 per month.
Take note, that AT&T will automatically give you the fastest speed available in your service area.
There will be data limits for people using the program, up to 600GB a month, and overage charges for anyone who uses more.
At least one person in your home must receive food stamps (SNAP). And you must live in AT&T’s 21-state service area.
Must not have – outstanding debt for AT&T fixed Internet service within the last six months or outstanding debt incurred under this program. https://www.cheapinternet.com/low-income-internet/att-access
Comcast’s Internet Essentials
Internet service speeds to up to 15/2 Mbps.
40 hours of free out-of-home WiFi access per month.
Comcast expanding Essentials for low-income senior citizens from five cities and metropolitan areas to 12.
Internet Essentials is now available in every area served by Comcast.
$9.95 per month and cannot have been a Comcast internet subscriber in the last 90 days. https://www.cheapinternet.com/low-income-internet/internet-essentials
Spectrum Internet Assist
Speeds of up to 30 Mbps downstream and 4 Mbps upstream.
The Data cap eliminating on this new plan means you can use all the internet you want.
Aimed at two important groups, families with students who participate in the National School Lunch Program
and Seniors 65 and older who receive Supplemental Security Income.
You will not qualify if you have had a Charter, Time-Warner or Bright House broadband subscription within 60 days of enrolling.
And if you have any outstanding bills with any of the three companies.
Low-income families and seniors can get unlimited high-speed internet for just $14.99 per month. https://www.cheapinternet.com/low-income-internet/spectrum-internet-assist
PC’s for People
Just scroll back up to the article above for details…
That’s impossible for us to determine, Sandy. But you can undoubtedly get your question answered if you speak to PCs for People customer service or tech support. Good luck.
Hi Sandy,
Lot of if’s I’d imagine here. Basically if the following is true.
Say your able to still qualify for internet and the modem still works then mostly = yes.
KC. MO. has Sprint service, and as well the HQ of Sprint was located there if I’m thinking right.
Do check with the PCs for People customer service friendly folks as the right info. and share it here if you would of your outcome.
P4P has had two newer modems since I started service and my old one (only one I have) is still working strong.
Sprint has never been real fast to me but it’s the only mobile internet offering for low-income folks, which is a plus for home PC use and outings with Laptop, or smartphones using data. Look into that Comcast program for low-income. Their in the Metro KC area as well.
TDSteve
Correction to Sandy – I meant that AT&T program ACCESS I think it’s called, though both are available in KC Metro and Sprint too.
All that kind of information is right on this website Cheap Internet…
TDSteve
As you know PCs For People offers low costing Computers, as well as mobile internet service over the Sprint cell towers – if living within the coverage areas.
I just got an email from them – “Pcsforpeople.org has a brand new look! Now it’s easier than ever to find out how you can get affordable low-cost technology. Take a look at the new website.”
Need an iMac they are offering and have some of them too.
As usual supplies are limited being on a first come bases…
All computers are for the cheap being recycled from business and offered to low-income households.
Remember we’re a few weeks away from their next site-wide sale, but there’s no guarantee it will be offered again, last year it was in the second week of May I believe called the Digital Inclusion week event.
Just an early Heads-Up…
The next sale held by PCs For People is likely to be during the Digital Inclusion Week.
May 8-13 from what I find, sorry I didn’t save that email to know for sure…
Never-the-less some months to save up for it, if you buy in for a years subscription and then your set for a years period till it expires.
All for far less than your paying now – I assure you. If you need the whole enchilada as the device and a 12 month subscription of internet – it’s close to a $200.00 cost for you.
Internet alone is $120.00 for 12 months and a Hotspot Device is around $75.00 – then save maybe 10% off catching this next P4P sale!
Just a thought : )
Maybe cheapinternet.com can do an article on this topic “Digital Inclusion”.
This is what I’m finding right now- Definition: Digital Inclusion:
Digital Inclusion refers to the activities necessary to ensure that all individuals and communities, including the most disadvantaged, have access to and use of Information and Communication Technologies (ICTs).
This includes 5 elements:
1) affordable, robust broadband internet service;
2) internet-enabled devices that meet the needs of the user;
3) access to digital literacy training;
4) quality technical support; and
5) applications and online content designed to enable and encourage self-sufficiency, participation and collaboration.
Digital Inclusion must evolve as technology advances.
Digital Inclusion requires intentional strategies and investments to reduce and eliminate historical, institutional and structural barriers to access and use technology.
Source: https://www.digitalinclusion.org/
As this to me, seems to be right at cheapinternet.com’s core function already in their broad swatch, as they offer us broadband knowledge and insights right here.
Maybe they (Cheap Internet), could fine tune this information by States, Cities as a National coverage article given to us?
I mean – breaking down the information as home broadband access, public broadband access, personal devices and local technology training and support programs; by each state and their cities.
Who knows, if Cheap Internet is already set as a non-profit, could this lead to funding by some States, or even some Federal programs to help out in running the site?
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PCs For People – News
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Saint Paul, MN – November 2, 2017 – PCs for People distributed a record 1,528 computers to low income individuals in 45 states in October. That means more than 4,800 people – including 2,334 children – can now study, apply for jobs, improve their technical skills, and do other activities most of us take for granted.
More than 1,200 new home Internet hotspots were also handed out last month. The successful October comes on the heels of what was a record-setting September, when 1,256 computers were distributed.
PCs for People gathered nearly 1,700 computers and responsibly recycled 40,000 pounds of electronic waste from 140 partners in October.
Studies continue to show the “Digital Divide” – the lack of a computer and broadband access is a major problem for families in poverty. Digital inclusion is a social justice problem that has far-reaching effects in equity relating to education, health, and income.
Only 48 percent of households with incomes below $25,000 have a home internet connection compared to about 85 percent of households with incomes between $50,000 and $100,000.
Source: https://www.pcsforpeople.com/release-october-record
You do not have to purchase the annual plan at $120 if it is too high. They also have a monthly plan at $15 each month. But you need to also buy the hotspot device and that is additional.(around $80). The lowest cost initial fee is $94.95 (one month of service plus the device).
We are not a low-income internet service provider, Erick. This is an independent informational website. You need to contact PCs for People directly by using the contact info we provide in the article above.
Before net neutrality got raped last week I was able to find low income Internet up to 40 MBS this post is obviously sponsored by the corporate giants intent on throttling information because now I can’t even find the post everything channels me into major provider backed Internet services.Corporate fascism has begun
PS: don’t bite the hand that isn’t sponsored by the corporate giants.
Besides, where are you going to get internet accept the major players. Hope 2018 is better for you, as it doesn’t look like 2017 was.
I might not get the Cyber Monday 10% off everything coupon code email today, as I had already received the Black Friday 15% off everything coupon code by this time on BF.
I did place a years internet subscription on BF for the 15% off and may be the cause why I haven’t received a same email for Cyber Monday from PCs For People.
Sorry for not being able to post a Cyber Monday coupon code for you today.
The Different Steve
Hey all – don’t forget in the past, we’ve seen for the November month deals from PCs For People to our inbox’s of an email like-
Happy Thanksgiving from PCs for People
Black Friday – Save 15% off everything.
Subscriptions, PC – desktops/laptops, accessories – everything !
(All specials are while supplies last and only valid for purchases on Black Friday only!)
Happy Holidays from PCs for People
Cyber Monday – Save 10% off everything.
Subscriptions, PC -desktops/laptops, accessories – everything !
(All specials are while supplies last and only valid for purchases on Cyber Monday only!)
ONLY – a “One day” savings in each case of that day’s event.
-This is the only time you can save with PCs For People, except for once in the spring. I’m thinking it was only a 10% off event.
So BLACK FRIDAY is the best time for you to save 15% off, if only to upping your subscription time back to as close to the 12-15 months that’s allowed.
Or get anything else you’d need that they’re to offer.
PCs For Peoples offices will be closed in observance of the Thanksgiving holiday and weekend, normal office business hours will resume on Monday.
PCs For People online sales can be made 24/7 though, and through your online account with P4P or for new signups from their online sales page.
REMEMBER – when ordering to Use the November Coupons…
@Current customers please remember to have your documents images ready to upload in placing an order ! (ID & proof).
I’ll post the coupon’s here on the day’s I receive them – that are used this year – for those people who are not yet P4P customers and not in receipt of getting these company emails.
(Select the products you wish to purchase and enter the coupon code in the offered box at checkout.)
@New customers, you will have to upload your proof of your low income/eligibility. If you can go the government assistance eligibility route, a (Photo ID and Snap/EBT card images – or a low-income tax return/W-2’s). None-the-less supplying some kind of proof and an ID.
For New Customers the 12 month internet subscription and the wireless mobile device (Hotspot) is normally close to $200.00 for the year in internet service. A break down is a12 month subscription term (year) costing $120.00, and a hotspot device for the remainder of that $200.00 costs, but you’ll own the hotspot forever and where else can you get mobile internet as a take it with you application for the cost here. (Home – neighbors – park – on the hi-ways – etc…)
This is the best deal in the cost of a subscription month basis of it’s end costs to you for less. Then in hooking up to the internet in general.
Although, it’s possible to buy in and start the service for as low of a subscription term in 3 months with the included Hotspot device needed, to reduce your initial start up costs. This makes the subscription months cost a little more per month this way.
Then adding additional months or if as a year’s subscription term, the only cost thereafter…
So glad I found your website! Just missed the Black Friday sale but look forward to the Cyber Monday one. The research you put into every program is incredible–I don’t know if you’re paid anything for it but I’m very grateful for this service.
Well Boo! I qualify for these internet plans but not even PC’s for People is available to me! So fustrating as I’m NOT in a rural area! Henderson, KY is a suburb of Evansville, IN & quite large on it’s own yet we’re hostage to Spectrum.I pay $60 for internet alone, no phone, no TV. Spectrum does offer complete service at $190 a month, that’s 28% of my monthly income! There REALLY SHOULD BE A LAW AGAINST SUCH A MONOPOLY, especially in such a poverty area! The FCC should investigate companies like these, they broke AT&T’s monopoly, why haven’t they done anything about cable/internet providers? Time for me to write the FCC, as I hope others will also!
Anyone with the ZTE know how to tell how much of the 23GB you have utilized so far in the billing cycle ? There’s a ‘Data Used’ in the Web UI, but that appears to only show the GB since the last connection. In the photo of the ZTE on the PCs For People website, it shows XXGB/23GB used on the lower half of the screen, but I don’t have that, unless it can be toggled on/off. No, I’d rather not contact PCs For People and draw attention to the account if I’m overlimit.
aaaawww Steve, say it ain’t so! I check into this site just to see what pearls of wisdom you are dispensing, and now……… I am alone in the desert! Thanks for all your help (in case you take a peek back to see what is going on. Rae
And thank you Cheap Internet for making the space available to us.
I do not understand the issue about turning off ad blocker software. Since I have been using this website, I have never seen such messages. Also, I do not recall seeing banner ads at any time I have been on this website. As for invasion of privacy issues, look at the OPM, Anthem, Equifax, Target, all of the many websites, and all of the many personal information exposed to hackers. An ad banner (shown or blocked) is miniscule compared to them. Your privacy most likely has already been exposed by other means that you might not even been aware of.
I hadn’t either until that day I did…
It was one in that you couldn’t do anything with the site.
It made navigation of this site impossible, was forefront and the rest of the site shadowed in the background. Locked the page to scrolling as well.
I don’t know if it was in testing to be used (as you say you’ve never seen it) and as I also never have before here, or any of the others you’ve mentioned. Possibly could of been my updating of my Ad Blocker filters cured it for myself as today it’s gone for me.
I totally agree about privacy, and to the loss in the one you’ve called attention to, but remember personal accounts were needed there for them. Meaning you had to sign-up and volunteer that info first to be stolen from.
It’s just that the low branch bottom feeders of the ads methods to steal your info. just the same adds to the chains of all the data that’s collect on you, as a sites user/reader/visitor (where no sign-up or opt-out is offer or given). It’s pure monetary profits for everyone on the trapping and trading end.
Knowledge is power and the more knowledge you have the more of it’s power one yields. Look at Google !!!
Their cashing in nicely of your info. and trading it away where more can cash in on it and making it a billion dollar industry or at the least trading it for the higher profiled peoples info.
Advertising is said to be it’s core for seeing ads you’d click on, but what about it being used to the denial of jobs, insurance, health plans, memberships, etc…
To many people trade Privacy for Convenience.
TV shows bring to mind the dangers of constant surveillance and connectivity – Person of Interest and Wisdom of the Crowd, some machines like seen in “Person of Interest” already exist (super-computers).
Then you add in the mix the people of your near by surroundings of strangers, or maybe friends setting in your home and what do you get. Everybody with a camera and microphone connected to the internet.
Germany in the world wars could only dream of such a world as ours we live in today.
It’s not just privacy I’ve seen today information last month I was able to find and now I’m being throttled to the same information over and over this is gotten ridiculous
PCs for People is one of our favorite plans, Tracy, and you can contact them using the information given in the article above. However, there may be other low-income plans available that meet your needs even better. There’s no way to know until you compare them all. Here’s an article that gives you a lot more info:
I’ve been looking for an internet service for my sister who is raising her grand kids and is on disability social security. The school offers Mobi Max online for the boys. I hope I am reading correct – your internet works where Sprint network is? Sprint is the only cell service where she lives that gets connection inside her home. Does a computer come with this service?
Please let me know what has to be done to sign her up for this service and what the income/program requirements are to be able to be on this program?
We are not PCs for People, Sandra. We are an independent informational website. PCs for People is a great organization and we’ve never heard a bad word about it from our readers. You’ll need to get in touch with the PCs for People to get your questions answered. Contact info can be found in the article above.
I don’t like the new popup about my ad-blocker. To turn it off…
WHY NOW AND WHY FOR ANYWAYS?
I guess I won’t be coming back to comment or read your pages here no more for this very reason – the so called you “average about 8000 page views per day” is going down by one at least for now.
It was good till you did this and I know it costs to staff the site and all the overhead you experience doing it. I’m a paid ad-block software user – my money is in short supply so I don’t want to feel I’ve wasted it.
Besides some ads, ad-domains are for a spreading of malware and the others are for nomore than to track website visitors / users and profile them selling on their personal data gained. It’s a multi-billion dollar industry that’s harvesting the visitors information.
I don’t need a site or have use in one that tells me to turn off my paid for Ad-blocker software. I have a choice (or should be given one) to that of my own personal information with the way the internet and websites, computers and browsers all work. What about all the free browsers coming out that are made to block ads?
You know it’s funny – if you were outside my home and peering in my windows I could have you arrested for that personal invasion of my liberties. Why does the web have any difference in my privacy than this or the US Mail service or the landline phone system???
GOOD BYE TO ALL I’ve BEEN ABLE TO HELP. : )
Good bye to CheapInternet dot com ;. )…
Hey Steve- it’s your groupie Rae. The old hotspot was the Franklin and new one is ZTE. I have had no issues with the ZTE so far. P4P said old one was out of warranty so I accepted that. Too old to fight! I did feel that Sprint technical was actually trying to help. I believe the 1 year is through the manufacturer and 90 days through P4P. I was within days of the 1 year mark. Even with buying the new device, the internet was still reasonably priced through P4P and they are very pleasant to work with. So……I will stay with this setup until somebody pulls the plug on this boon for low income seniors. Thanks to Cheapinternet for providing this space and thanks to Steve for being such a font of information!
@Rae
Sprint tech support, I’d imagine have levels assigned of their customers support in profiles – meaning P4P might be on the lowest. Where as they might not put someone more advanced on your issues unless you have requested it through supervisor.
Remember it was a court order that kept the Wi-Max going, when (Clear/ClearWire selling off to Sprint – that deal ???, the facts escapes me now), and as I seem to recall (old as I am), being of that court order and keeping this low-income and non-profit offering in internet alive, migrating it then to this 4G-LTE till sometime in mid 2030’s.
Somewhere here I’ve commented somewhat on this before and gave a link to Mobile Beacon’s stating all of this – on it’s pages.
Rainy day reading to catch up / reflect and pass the day.
[The nonprofits that make up Mobile Citizen and Mobile Beacon leased a portion of their spectrum to Clearwire for 30 years in 2006 in exchange for the ability to provide high-speed broadband service to schools, libraries and nonprofit organizations across the United States.]
“Steve says – July 21, 2017 at 9:34 am”
So unlike the cable companies cheap internet deals mentioned in these pages of https://www.cheapinternet.com/low-income-internet , which have a four year lifespan to it’s users and greater restrictions in a narrow subset of the population on-to who can enjoy their discounted internet offers.
P4P as stated in the article above and Interview with May Sorensen, PCs for People’s Director of Finance and Business Administration.
Q.- Do you have a limit on the number of customers you can sign up?
A. – A recipient can get internet only, computer supply does not affect internet availability. For internet, we will not be able to distribute unlimited $10 per month LTE on Sprint’s network indefinitely. Due to limited bandwidth, selling indefinitely could degrade the service of Sprint’s direct customers. We do not currently know when this offer will be stopped, so we are encouraging eligible recipients to register as soon as they can.
MEANING – once your in with PCs for People’s internet as a member – your possibly good till mid 2030’s – some 19+ years to go.
ALSO STATED (above) TOO –
We are subsidizing the modems to bring costs down to $74.95 which is below Sprint’s wholesale cost. In the future we hope a bring-your-own device policy is allowed and we are also pushing to manufacture our own line of reduced cost modems. Until we are allowed to do that-
So to me, it seems like long term plans after the mid 2030’s are in thoughts for now, and in keeping this low-internet offering going well beyond. I see a better understanding here, if P4P committed to manufacture their own line of modems.
Thank you for answering my questions. : ) – Lovely one…
Steve
In the first few days of June 2017 (8th day to be specific), in a comment to @Rae.
I’ve cover a little on adding internet subscription time, it’s process with some special insights for anyone as a member to consider.
I’ve said then, and have edited it now to be very helpful for everyone as a PCs For People member,
“If it’s close to ‘Add More Time’ on your Internet subscription”
2. On the right hand side look for “My Account”-(that’s underlined) for it’s menu listings column, and the 3rd one down in this list use
(clicking on) “My Internet” link under that main heading underlined as “My Account”.
A page opens to INTERNET, with View and add time to your subscriptions. **
There you’ll see Five options ** or less to add any of these amounts in internet subscription time.
Select one and click on the “ADD TO CART”.
”’Also you’ll see here your ID:, Start Date:, Renewal Date:, and Expiration Date: of your membership and subscription.”’
[ you’ll also notice – the TWO new subscription time period options as a member now – you didn’t see being offered to you in your initial sign up of the subscription and modem purchase **].
3. Have all your current documented eligibility proof * ready to upload for your subscription time period** your going to purchase in adding internet subscription time to your account.
[Special insights and of considerations for Members to know]
It’s your choice to USE any ONE of those 5 allotment time periods ** to get you JUST ENOUGH TIME – till the next full site sales again, coming on Black Friday and Cyber Monday. IF WE’LL SEE them offered to us again – I believe BF was a 15% off site wide and CM was to a 10% off site wide – sale and savings.
Just kind of my own heads up for you to a pre-savings possibility coming our way, as we’ve seen last year at that time.
In my own personal case – I’ll have to use the single months a couple of times to extend my subscription to getting into November.
*You must provide new proof of eligibility once per year and/or in adding to your accounts subscription time.
**Each account has a maximum up to 15 months prepaid internet subscription being possible, so not everyone’s account in the additional months of 3, 6, 12, etc… increments may be visible to every existing PCs For People clients.
Taken with your understanding that only a maximum in 15 months can be prepaid then – you’ll see offered at that point to your remaining good time left, there will be monthly increments only offered to bringing you as close or to that maximum of 15 months.
My final words here-
Cheap Internet is in no way affiliated with PCs For People, the Cheap Internet website graciously brings their readers news and savings in any cheap internet deals to all who visits their website.
Just happens this is one of those articles loaded with information and links back to the source for those who are eligible…
PCs For People users (as myself) and readers of Cheap Internet’s site, are able to comment, possibly helping out readers here to understand, by offering our help to anyone in need of – again volunteering to aid other users as we’re mere users paying for PCs For People internet service ourselves.
Rebecca don’t get frustrated, Please ask for someone to help you if you’ve missed understanding something.
Jeez, Rebecca, this website is called CheapInternet.com, not PCsForPeople.com. Our job is to tell you the basics about each of the low-income service providers. For more details visit the service provider’s website.
Had my first “bummer” moment with P4P. Renewed service at the one year mark. Internet wouldn’t stay connected, rebooted, didn’t clear up. On the phone with Sprint technical for 3 hours, they were unable to push through an update that should have been done. Said the hotspot was defective. At almost exactly 1 year. Just purchased a new one from P4P and hope to get more than a year out of it. Bummer!
Steve- I believe you mentioned doing an update as soon as the hotspot arrives- I will do that to be sure there is no issue that would not be discovered until 11 months later! And thanks for all the info you provide here.
Magnanimous, indispensable, spontaneous, refinemental agent, procurator to the best information out there…
: )
Steve
CheapInternet.com Administratorsays
You’re a smooth talker, Mr. Steve.
Stevesays
@Rae says July 25, 2017
Could you please inform us of what model Hotspot failed in it’s service.
What’s the new one’s model is that you’ve replaced it with?
I’m sorry for your misfortunes, but I was to understand the Hotspots carried a manufactures warranty for a year, was this not the case with yours?
I’d probably would of hung up on Sprint’s tech service and called another day and time frame as apposed to the last. Giving a 30 minute window for something useful to be discovered. Then if not asking to speak to a tech supervisor for help.
Do a general search engine search of the model and brand with key words and failed – failure used.
Though late now and not knowing your brand and model hotspot – the actual trouble you’ve had, I guess this info. will only be useful for the new one.
From your PCs For People hotspot’s Web Interface, a Factory Reset is possible, as well as update profile. I’ve told how to get there in comment July 19, 2017 at 11:46 am below.
Were P4P compensating in any way? Discounting the new Hotspot any?
Then I be a little extra critical in evaluating the new Hotspot as noting the money back return policy, and warranty periods.
Modem Return Policy:
Items must be returned within 7 days from the date the device is received.
Mobile Beacon currently provides a 60-day hardware warranty through the network provider and a one year limited warranty is provided by the device manufacturer. The warranty starts from the date a device is activated on behalf PCs for People, not when the device is received by the end user. PCs for People provides device support, but does not provide warranty replacement for internet devices.
Sounds troublesome to me as when hotspot becomes activated on behalf PCs for People, to start the two warranties???
Here’s something interesting I’ve ran across on another site.
Note – this reflects only the “Data part” of the cell carriers, as your PCs For People Internet subscription is basically supplied through Sprint, which P4P only utilizes the Data portion of Sprint’s service…
The main players here were all offering once – in a close ballpark GB’s allowances, but as you can see in 2017 seems T-Mobile has changes things up… Will the other follow suite, especially Sprint?
Your guess is better than mine probably, though if AT&T at least climbed on board to offer more GB’s before any kind of network management happens – then I’d expect Sprint most likely following in these footsteps too.
[ Sprint considers 23 GB unlimited 4G LTE, T-Mobile 32 GB, after that data speeds can vary based on how busy the network is. T-Mobile and Sprint call this data prioritization. AT&T and Verizon enable data prioritization after 22 GB ] (Special Note- T-Mobile leads by almost 10GB’s more now).
If your hoping that if… SPRINT was to remain at the same GB’s, then would PCs For People move to T-Mobile as a mobile Data supplier for it’s programs access offered to it’s Internet subscribers. Not a chance as I understand it.
The one fact that remains, is that PC’s For People only works and it’s being priced as it is because of it’s relationship/partnership with Mobile Beacon. The Internet service will always be Unlimited and these GB’s mentioned above are only to reflect a “”network management policy””, where as if many users in one neighborhood or on one of the mobile network towers becomes a heavy load in demand to it, then users who have used less then the stated amounts in GB’s above will have priority on the said tower.
BACKGROUND-
“In 2012, PCs for People partnered with nonprofit Mobile Citizen and Mobile Beacon to offer low-cost, unlimited data internet through Clear. Clients could now afford to go online with the PCs and laptops they received. This greatly expanded our organization, with thousands of new clients signing up for internet each year — some connecting at home for the first time.
In early 2016, we expanded our coverage to use the Sprint network to help provide better coverage and faster speeds. Our nationwide customers can access unlimited data at 4G LTE speeds.”
QUESTION-
Can the current administration or the FCC do something to change this? I’m guess anything is possible, but the forgoing legal hurdles and fact that 1,820 nonprofits, 429 schools, and 61 libraries across the country are served by Mobile Beacon, leads me to think that any finial decision would be up to the courts, not the FCC or anyone else.
Brief History review-
Mobile Beacon and Mobile Citizen have provided unlimited broadband service for just $10 a month to schools, libraries and nonprofit organizations across the country on Clearwire’s WiMax network, which was subsequently acquired by Sprint. Sprint had planned to shut down the WiMax network this past November, until a Massachusetts state court stepped in on the eve of the shutdown to put a three-month hold on Sprint’s plan and preserve Internet access for Mobile Beacon and Mobile Citizen’s community of users.
The nonprofit entities that created Mobile Citizen and Mobile Beacon are among the largest Educational Broadband Service (EBS) providers in the United States. EBS refers to spectrum the Federal Communications Commission reserved to serve the public interest by providing wireless broadband services in support of education. The nonprofits that make up Mobile Citizen and Mobile Beacon leased a portion of their spectrum to Clearwire for 30 years in 2006 in exchange for the ability to provide high-speed broadband service to schools, libraries and nonprofit organizations across the United States. http://blog.mobilebeacon.org/court-grants-motion-by-nonprofits-and-sprint-to-extend-wimax-service-through-march/
Looks like PCs For People has a new Hotspot offered on it’s site now !
The ZTE Warp Connect, 4G LTE-capable with USB Tethering.
Linux, Mac and Windows friendly, up to 10 hours of battery life on a single charge, connect up to 10 WiFi devices on-the-go.
Your PCs For People hotspots ZTE Warp Connect, Franklin R850, and the no longer available Netgear Fuse, is a Wi-Fi router for up to 10 devices, so there is something to consider in setting it up securely, you don’t want someone else close by using your hotspots ability to connect to the web/internet through your PCs For People internet subscription.
If your security is set to None or Open which is an unsecured mode, you’re using no authentication or encryption. Anyone can join your Wi-Fi network, use your Internet connection, access any shared resource on your network, and read any traffic you send over the network. Using an unsecured network is not recommended.
The Wi-Fi Security Options of your hotspot controls the type of authentication and encryption used by your Wi-Fi router (your PCs For People hotspot), which allows you to control access to the network and specify the level of privacy for data you send over the air.
A. Your PCs For People hotspot has a Web Interface, on a computer connected to the internet via the PCs For People hotspot, open a browser window and type in
For Fuse AC779S hotspots – http://MyHotSpot or http://192.168.1.1
into the address bar and press enter.
@ Franklin Wireless R850 (aka) R850 Mobile Hotspot.
B. The Mobile Hotspot home page opens for your PCs For People hotspot. Here you can manage, monitor, and customize your device settings of your PCs For People hotspot.
(These (A.,B.) are included in the hotspot device box, in the paperwork sent with your order.)
But sadly that’s as far as it goes as to what’s covered in your hotspot Web Interface.
@ see the below for links (Part 2) to your devices users guide and about this Web Interface.
Go ahead and click around in the Web Interface of your PCs For People hotspot to get accustom of all it offers to you, being careful not to change anything for now.
1. I would advise you to change the current password which is likely a default password ! As well in editing the Main or Guest WiFi names to be distinct and original to you, and is visible to other WiFi-enabled devices around you (your neighbors can see them possibly and losing the Sprint name part – to something more generic is better.)
2. Check if you have any new software update for the hotspot device, since it was a sealed packaged sent to you, chances are it had a long shelf life and a new update may be available.
3. See what the security settings of authentication and encryption that’s used by your Wi-Fi router (hotspot) setting is, and change it to the most secure, which allows you to control access to the network and specify the level of privacy for data you send over the air.
Here you can see your users guides – (better to download/print off your user guide in pdf format to have on hand).
I find these for security settings of the different Hotspots PCs For People has offered.
ZTE Warp Connect (Modes)
OPEN = Authentication and encryption won’t be performed. There are risks that private info will be intercepted or network will be used by unauthorized individuals.
WPA2-PSK = It is the securer version of WPA with implementation of the 802.11i standard.
Franklin Wireless R850 (Modes)
OPEN = Authentication and encryption won’t be performed. There are risks that private info will be intercepted or network will be used by unauthorized individuals.
SHARED = Authentication via Shared Key protocol.
WPA2-PSK = WPA-PSK is the securer version of WPA with implementation of the 802.11i standard.
WPA-PSK/WPA2-PSK = Apply both the WPA-PSK and WPA2-PSK scheme.
Netgear Fuse AC779S (Modes)
None = No security is used (no password is required to access the WiFi network); this setting is not recommended. Anyone may access your device and use your Internet connection.
WPA2 Personal AES = This is a stronger, newer security standard that is limited to newer WiFi devices.
WPA/WPA2 = (recommended setting if any of your devices are more than two years old) – WiFi devices that use either WPA or WPA2 can connect to the NETGEAR Fuse Mobile Hotspot.
–Note: The out-of-the-box configuration for most wireless networking equipment provided easy (but insecure) access to a wireless network.
–Note: [WPA2-PSK , short for Wi-Fi Protected Access 2 – Pre-Shared Key, and also called WPA or WPA2 Personal, it is a method of securing your network using WPA2 with the use of the optional Pre-Shared Key (PSK) authentication, which was designed for home users without an enterprise authentication server.]
–NOTE: It can be affirmed that a 12-character Wi-Fi network password cannot be decipher using today’s computing capabilities, since the time required to crack the password grows exponentially. Though longer is always better…
Change password periodically: Both home and corporate Wi-Fi WPA passwords should be changed from time to time. 12-character passwords should be changed every 6 months. https://www.acrylicwifi.com/en/blog/is-a-wpawpa2-wi-fi-network-secure/
–Note: WPA2 Personal AES is currently the strongest form of security offered by Wi-Fi products, and is recommended for all uses. When enabling WPA2 Personal AES, be sure to select a strong password that can’t be guessed by third parties.
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Didn’t mean to split hairs : ), you were correct for a national populous. Then again I don’t know the distance from Arvada to Denver Colorado.
Which by the way you got any data of the poorest states – or – their main populous being low-income ?
I would think, (dare to Dream), that PCs For People could work out some kind of deal in these states with a majority populous being low-income. Having office / warehouse space donated or extremely bargain priced for a long term lease, then to open up branches of the business there – growing a network of offices.
I’m looking at Churches, Schools, Libraries and downtown retail space owned by community leaders and municipalities getting involved.
I’m thinking if an office space had enough space to house the needed staff workers and keep enough stock to service 50 families a week for a month.
Then strategically locate a main warehouse-recycle center to outreach in supplying four to eight offices up to 700-1200 miles away in a local network.
Also this warehouse being a recycle hub for the national network in collections of PCs and all the other services for businesses outside of the low-income realm and thus feeding a supply of replenished stock of used PCs and growth in more offices.
Hope PCs For People got their ears on.
Steve
CheapInternet.com Administratorsays
Let’s see if the good folks at PCs for People respond to you, Steve.
Stevesays
Don’t pay extra for texts and calls if you don’t need them!
So what exactly am I meaning? As we all need the usage in texts and calls possibly at some point… It’s my point of these cell phone charges and that cell carriers bill – I’m referring too.
We all know modern smartphones are just tiny tablets housing a mighty computer with a phone number. But if you were to start texting and calling using internet apps, then all you’d need is the data part of a data SIM connection.
That’s basically what the PCs For People’s Hotspot offers you. Linking your phones to the P4P Hotspot (wireless devices-as smartphones are via WiFi) and with the appropriate installed calling/texting app(s) on your smartphones to utilize that data connection then. Your smartphone could lose the bill and your cell providers SIM card as well. Most internet (data) calling/texting app(s) gives you a new free phone number as well with it’s installition.
Just as important then as a smartphones battery is – so becomes the P4P Hotspot to complete this arrangement, but being separated of the phone you’ll have to remember to pack it along with you.
I believe it won’t become as cumbersome once you get in the habit of doing so and in saving those extra dollars from not paying a cell phone bill.
This is just a general sense of what’s possible with a PCs For People’s Hotspot and Internet subscription, I won’t go into the specifics – the internets there for that of your questions and the answers it holds, I may answer a general question here and there along these lines though.
Cheap Internets Team may well answer if it’s something they care too.
Steve’s comments are always full of great advice. If any readers are interested, they should scroll down to read all his previous PCs for People posts.
@Rae
So good to hear that 🙂 , most if not all who come over to PCs For People feel the same. Indeed just what I needed and with costs inline with my budget.
If it’s close to “Add More Time” on your Internet subscription, when logged in there at P4P in your account, on the right hand menu use “My Internet” you’ll notice the TWO new options as a member you didn’t see when offered in the initial signing up.
Use any of those allotment term periods to get you enough time to the periods of the full site sales again, coming on BlackFriday and CyberMonday. If we’ll see them offered again to us – I believe BF was 15% off and CM 10% off. Just kind of a heads up to a pre-savings possibility coming our way.
Have your current documented eligibility proof ready to upload for your subscription term period purchase. Enjoy what you’ve come to know of PCs For People, service and price.
Just some thoughts, have you used the Hotspot outside of your home with a Laptop or Smartphone cell phone? Traveling or road trips – just visiting a friend and/or relative without internet access you still be able to connect within the Sprint National Network.
If you keep the hotspot by a window at home while connected to your PC – you’ll have better signal receptions.
Pass the word on to eligible friends and relatives about your experiences with PCs For People.
I am just shy of 1 year of service and have never regretted going to PCs for People. I have had to reboot the hot spot occasionally, but at this price I can darned well get out of my chair and complete that task! Steve, you were right a year ago-I am as pleased with this service today as I was a year ago.
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Might be the only sale we’ll see till later on in the year…(..;
Steve
[Comcast Paid Civil Rights Groups To Support Killing Broadband Privacy Rules]
For years, one of the greasier lobbying and PR tactics by the telecom industry has been the use of minority groups to parrot awful policy positions. Historically, such groups are happy to take financing from a company like Comcast, in exchange for repeating whatever talking point memos are thrust in their general direction, even if the policy being supported may dramatically hurt their constituents. This strategy has played a starring role in supporting anti-consumer mega-mergers, killing attempts to make the cable box market more competitive, and efforts to eliminate net neutrality.
The goal is to provide an artificial wave of “support” for bad policies, used to then justify bad policy votes. And despite this being something the press has highlighted for the better part of several decades, the practice continues to work wonders. Heck, pretending to serve minority communities while effectively undermining them with bad internet policy is part of the reason Comcast now calls top lobbyist David Cohen the company’s Chief Diversity Officer – something the folks at Comcast hate when it’s out, by the way.
It’s noted how Congress voted to kill relatively modest but necessary FCC privacy protections. You’d be hard pressed to find a single, financially-objective group or person that supports such a move. Even Donald Trump’s most obnoxious supporters were relatively disgusted by the vote. Yet it’s noted that groups like the League of United Latin American Citizens and the OCA (Asian Pacific American Advocates) breathlessly urged the FCC to kill the rules, arguing that snoopvertising and data collection would be a great boon to low income families, told the FCC that “many consumers, especially households with limited incomes, appreciate receiving relevant advertising that is keyed to their interests and provides them with discounts on the products and services they use.”
Of course, folks like Senator Ted Cruz then used this entirely-farmed support to insist there were “strenuous objections from throughout the internet community” at the creation of the rules, which simply wasn’t true. Most people understood that the rules were a direct response to some reckless and irresponsible privacy practices at major ISPs — ranging from charging consumers more to keep their data private, or using customer credit data to provide even worse customer support than they usually do.
Yes, what consumer (minority or otherwise) wants to pay significantly more money for absolutely no coherent reason?
This kind of co-opting still somehow doesn’t get much attention in the the press or policy circles, so it continues to work wonders. And it will continue to work wonders as the administration shifts its gaze from gutting privacy protections to killing net neutrality.
If Edward Snowden has done nothing but to open our eyes, let you not be the one to close your ears to the poor and low-incomes in America.
Today it’s known for a fact that our own government agencies and foreign governments as well internet hackers the web over are monitoring our American lives.
It should not be a given just to trust our own Governments and American companies using our information and that data for their own purposes (profits), these pools of data’s collected on us can and do get hacked into.
Just think back not long ago State IDs and Driver Licenses had our SSN’s on them and mostly to public exposure – that all changed for the privacy in/of ourselves as the standard being used and our private internet usage should too.
I truly believe in our American way and rights and then our right to internet usage being as private, just the same as it is of a Federal Crime to open a letter (addressed to someone else) sent using the USPS, our personal internet usage should be protected, but still it’s not seen as being private as our own selves.
Over half of Americans homes have not a landline telephone system anymore being replaced by smartphones, so what medium is used as a basic transmission bases (the mobile Internet), I’d also bet that the number is higher for emails and texts messages that’s replacing most people mailing a postage letter to someone noadays. As more and more companies and businesses adopt e-communications, even Federal, State and Local governments, our cities utilities all moving to an online presents for business and their customer communications today.
FACT
Messages older than 180 days can be seized by authorities. Current legislation, that was written three years before the World Wide Web was invented, allows the warrantless collection of citizens’ emails. The Electronic Communications Privacy Act allows authorities to “be able to get Americans’ e-mail, or their documents stored online that are more than six months old, without having to acquire a judge’s permission, as long as the authorities promise it is ‘relevant’ to a criminal investigation.” Even with a secure or private email service, this legislation is valid with blanket warrants from government agencies seeking access to all user data.
A common practice among companies is using HTML to create an attractive and effective email message. They use this formatting to include eye-catching images, but those images may be stored on a web server that your email client andor online email service connects to in order to download them. When this happens, the sender of the message may be able to find out information about you. Just by opening the email and letting these images load, the sender may be able to determine if your email address is active and working, that you opened the message, and that of your IP address.
Congress has sold off your privacy—and U.S. security, the only remaining step is a signature from the President, which will certainly come. If certain data collected by ISPs land in the hands of foreign hacking groups or hostile foreign governments, it could quickly become blackmail means and disrupt the normal function of our government and society. This is not an exaggeration. Anyone paying the slightest attention to the smoke billowing from Capitol Hill and the White House would be foolish to dismiss this possibility. Moreover, foreign governments wouldn’t have to hack anything to get this data They could simply buy it.
First, data that’s collected on internet use by an individual or household, even if distributed in an “anonymized” fashion but with unique identifiers, can ultimately be traced back to that individual or a household. We need only to look at the AOL search data leak in 2006 to see how simple this is.
Second, ISPs can collect a lot of data from their customers, even if the customers access encrypted sites. DNS queries sent to ISP servers or even third-party DNS servers can be used to determine which sites are accessed. That alone may be sensitive information. Many sites do not use encryption, so all data transactions can be cataloged. Email that is stored on ISP servers can be mined for information. Email transmitted through insecure means (common, unfortunately) could be fair game.
Final thoughts, in 2017 allowing ISPs to monetize and distribute data on their users is no different than having someone follow you around all day recording your every move, then selling that information. ISPs control internet access and can see every packet sent to or from their users, not only the traffic that’s sent to or from certain websites like Facebook and Google. Sure, many popular sites track your moves, but you’re not their paying customer, and they don’t literally know where you live or own the data connections to your home.
Also—this is very important in most locations in the United States, only one ISP offers reasonable internet services and bandwidth. In many other US locations, you cannot opt out of this privacy invasion by signing up with a competitor because there is no competitor. The only reason the FCC ISP privacy rules should be reversed is to put in much stronger privacy protections. Outright reversal holds no benefit for any U.S. citizen or our national security, it only serves the voracious appetites of the major ISPs. That they have paid their people in congress well with the profits made from us their customers.
Steve
Ok I get that it’s above your tech expertise, but it shouldn’t be above your interets either, as your business-presonal (ISP) IP’s are your addresses where your own internet connection starts and ends to your on-line activity!
Then Open up an article and topic here such as (Internet Privacy – is there such a thing), for users supported information (a stating place) and in time who knows how fast and popular it will become for not only low-income Americans but all Americans as well as your staff too. Knowledge is a power and needs a forum – at least a topic and related comments here on your site.
Steve here and I have a few questions for Cheap Internet ADMIN’S.
Given you bring (us readers) news and knowledge of Low-Income Americans Internet Opportunities afforded to them.
Which one medium is more secure and private to the ever growing trend to PROFILING and DATA COLLECTION of Internet users? Then with the FCC rules roll back – reversal, this is a true article and information of each one you could offer us.
Cable box modems setups or Mobile hotspot modems setups, both in nature – which one is not only cheap, but respects the users privacy the most being our given ISP?
Then of each separate medium group of ISP’s, (getting online), how do the low-income American providers you list (hardwired and mobile) stack up against each other to their users privacy and of personal tracking in their reflected Internet offering?
This is a most important and serious topic in 2017 and going forward, I’d like to see your site cover it, as well in the break-downs as your already covering of each one provider.
It’s already known – If one uses “free” – software, browsers and extensions, email accounts it should be understood that if it’s free – it’s only because you have become the product that enables it to be offered to you for free. Your being personally profiled and data is collected (stored for a long time) as well as your being tracked across the web as you surf. User profiling and Data collection is a Multi-Billion dollar business today.
So could you please include this in your break-downs of the Internet providers your already covering and offering us. Give us articles as well, to news and the stink of these business in policies and practice of cheap internet deals your bring us, to cover the whole gauntlet to better help us understand and protect ourselves. As Cheap Internet has the same loss of privacy as “FREE” of yesterday.
You’re asking us for info that’s waaaaaay beyond our tech expertise, Steve. We can tell you all about the various programs, but we would not feel comfortable advising anyone on profiling and data protection.
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@ Casey Sorensen Executive Director for PCs for People
I’m Honored twice over, once for your recognition here and a second for my belated discount.
Since you can more or less figure out who I’m, (not my pen name here), I’ve submitted a few questions to your CS Manager (A.S.)
in pdf form towards the end of last year. I haven’t received any reply of a follow up. I used the medium of a pdf, so if needed it could passed on to the PCs For People lead team. The password I’d given it was easy as it was all numbers, the first four headquarters street address and followed by the last four digits of the companies phone number all together with no spaces.
Congrats to everyone at PCs For People on reaching and having customers in all 50 US States. The surpassing of a year’s anniversary to your online sales website, where you’ve made it possible in that reaching out to all customers in the Sprint National coverage area with your Internet subscriptions plans.
As well as being the best Internet deal going for low-income American’s ! : ) “Period”
Thank you for all the help volunteering to answer questions here, we greatly appreciate the support. A family from Alaska recently placed an order, so we have now delivered computers and internet to all 50 States (and Puerto Rico). Volunteers have made much of this possible and helped to connect thousands of homes. If you are ever in St. Paul stop by as we owe you a thank you and a beer if you choose (in addition to your belated Black Friday discount) ;).
@Lynn – 14, 2017 at 3:37 pm/April 15, 2017 at 1:44 pm
Q.- Any suggestions for VOIP service using this internet service?
Q.- What about for phone service?
A.- Nope – I suggest you please direct questions like these to PCs For People customer service personally.
Phone support is open 10:00 AM to 5:30 PM Central Time Monday-Friday. 651-354-2552.
Go to VOIP providers or community forums of them and ask these questions – your perfectly free to comment right here on your findings.
I refer you to “Steve says January 21, 2017 at 5:31 am”
I will only answer PCs For Peoples service questions if I’m able… I’m not wanting to Highjack this article and I Will Not Answer Your Questions to the Related information.
Then by the same eligibility requirements you’ve met in your account with PCs For People, your probably also eligible for a Free Government Cell Phone in the Lifeline program, which Cheap Internet sister site is of a vast amount of information – to go about in achieving that Free Phone and Free Monthly service setup. http://www.freegovernmentcellphones.net/basics/qualify
Just follow through the steps/pages there of the information and hopefully you’ll be on your way to a free phone with free monthly service through the Lifeline Program.
Any suggestions for VOIP service using this internet service? Basic landline service is $30 after fees and taxes. Currently paying $74 a month for standard internet (25 Mbps) and basic phone through Spectrum but that will be going up in a few months. I only need internet fast enough to handle streaming and basic phone service. I don’t want to cancel with Spectrum until I know I can get those services cheaper.
What about for phone service? Any idea what VOIP phone service would work best with this internet service? Both Ooma and Magicjack seem possible (with up front equipment fees), but not sure which would work better with a hotspot or has better ratings.
@SHIRLEY – April 12, 2017 at 9:54/11:18 pm
Q.- does this 4g internet work with laptops and tv internet?
A.- Yes, all devices (to 10 each in total count from the P4P Hotspot Modem), if they are to have Wi-Fi capabilities/functions, plus your able to connect one device (PC/Router) by the USB cable supplied, to devices with a USB port for a Hard-Wired connection from the Hotspot Modem sold by P4P (but only one cable connect can be made).
[I don’t know about a Router (your own equipment) being used – if then, a (Router) would allow more connections possible to Hard-Wired or Wi-Fi’s of it’s own features/capabilities to connections past the 10 total that the P4P Hotspot allows. (Router X’s ? connections)
I seem to think that the P4P Hotspot Modem is only limited to 10 total connections each by it’s online Hotspot Manager UI webpage interface, that are the actual settings part to control it, change or setup the PCs For People Hotspot Modem itself.]
Q.- I don’t quite understand the difference between cable internet and this?
A.- Price for the 1st difference, portability for a 2nd.
This is Wireless as the P4P Modem is a Hotspot device used on the
Sprint’s Network, with a data SIM card installed. This is mobile in nature and is closely related like that of cell phones method used in a Towers reception in your neighborhood to a device able to pull in that signal, except it’s for a data only signal, no calls function here. No hardwire connection is needed at all like in cable companies setups and unlike a hardwired (cable company) modem you can connect outside of the home as well. (neighbors house, parks, on the road, etc…)
[Key factor here is you must be within the Sprint network coverage areas.]
“The reference” to you can’t bring your own equipment is only meant to the modem that is receiving the Sprint Data signal, as you can’t connect with anything of your own to draw in the Sprint Data signal and use the PCs For People Internet service. It must be purchased from P4P and be registered to the P4P Business account we all share in this set up. The Hotspot must be registered with identification numbers and have a Data SIM registered back to PCs For People Business Account. Anything you would hook up to/after this P4P Hotspot Modem can and should be your own equipment – up to 10 each, to then draw this Sprint Data Internet signal from the Hotspot.
I hope this answered all your questions and the phone line you’ve mentioned is not important as I’ve covered that with my other answers, I hope.
Additional questions please direct them to PCs For People customer service personally. (I’m a volunteer here answering posted questions).
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I dont quite understand the difference between cable internet and this..is the modem you purchase like a wireless router. it says you cant bring your own equipment. does that mean your laptop. or just the router/modem. do you have to have a phone line? I looked on thier website but couldnt find the answer there..im 59 and techy challenged…thanks
I have used the PCs 4 People service for over five years and will try to answer your questions. Sorry for the late response.
The PCs 4 People service uses a hotspot device, not a modem. Your computer (or smart phone or TV) has a wireless modem inside it which picks up the signal broadcast by the hotspot. This service is not BYOD, so you cannot bring in your hotspot obtained from another source. They assign a phone number to your service (referred to as a PTN) which identifies your device to the WiFi carrier. If you have issues with your service, you need to provide this phone number to the tech support rep. This service is handled by WiFi tower signals to the hotspot. Unlike WiFi service that you use in McDonald’s or Starbucks restaurants, this form of WiFi is encrypted and not available to outside users. Your phone line is not part of this type of WiFi service. There is no dial up or DSL connection involved. As for cable internet, satellite internet, FIOS internet services, these are direct wired lines going to your home which then connects to a router to broadcast the signal within your home. Having a direct line to your home allows a stronger signal to be provided for the internet service (hence, the 1 GB + speeds that they promote all the time). You can download a high definition movie in seconds with these services. With regular WiFi from a tower, it will take longer to download the same movie file. WiFi service has its limitations (barriers such as buildings, trees, etc.,) which can degrade the signal to your hotspot. The location of your hotspot and your residence are critical factors in receiving a good signal to go on the internet. For some people, the WiFi signal is too weak to be of any good to them.
does this 4g internet work with laptops and tv internet..Im tired of paying 50 plus a month and now having data caps with armstrong cable. but dont know if this will work as we want to be cord cutters
and just use netflix, and playstation vue plus two laptops..
This is a WiFi based tower signal that is received through a hotspot type of connection. Any computer (desktop, laptop, smart tv with a wireless modem connected to it) can get access to the WiFi signal. Note that cable internet will ALWAYS be faster than through WiFi internet service. WiFi signals can be blocked by many things outside of your home (as well as inside your home). You do not have this same problem with cable service direct from an underground line. Depending on your location, you may see loss of speeds as much as 75% or more than your previous cable internet speeds by switching to WiFi. While this type of service is MUCH cheaper than cable internet, you get what you pay for. Do not expect the same download speeds like for cable internet service. This type of service is a HUGE improvement over dial up internet which is restricted to 56K bps speed. I used dial up internet for a long time over 10 years ago. It was S-L-O-W and often kept disconnecting many times. Webpages would take a long time to load. Downloading a high definition movie file would probably take several days. LOL
Just a Heads Up with the Tax time dead line and returns coming back to some, then time for others to bank some funds for the additional discounts we saw last year from PCs For People at Black Friday, Cyber Monday, and in advance of Christmas holiday on the 9th to 11th. These make further discounts on a site wide bases to an additional 10-15% off – that’s on everything they offer, accessories, computers and subscriptions. So if you can put something away now to be prepared for that time…
On subscriptions you can only pre-pay for up to 15 months, and usually requires to submit eligibility documents prior to the 12 month recertify periods, and is also related to anything involving Microsoft products like computers for your documents submittals.
This next bit of news may or may not work, I’m sure if someone brings it to PCs For People attention it will be fixed.
A loop hole or an over looked function of the cart there at P4P opportunity I have discovered, as I had no money when these November sales ran last year.
I added the discount Internet subscription term I was allowed to add to my cart (remember you can’t have more than 15 months pre-paid)-(but also you have to use the 3, 6, or 12 months increments). Then I also removed my Credit/Debit card on file – so I wouldn’t be mistakenly charged – I don’t know if this made any difference, but it’s what I did anyways.
I just left the discounted term of the subscription period in my PCs For People cart – (let it ride), till I had to renew for sure, as I had no months left – just days.
Here’s the best part – when I logged in to my P4P account and seen my cart still reflected the discounted sale price to the months I did add back some 4-5 months ago, I checked out with that, I didn’t risk adding more or changing my cart value in anyway.
I added my card back to my account and checked out to only pay for those discounted months. A discount then on an already good deal that PCs For People gives – but months later than first offered.
Will it work for you – who knows and like I said if someone tells or P4P monitors this site, it will be fixed. So if you find yourself without funds on the 10-15% off discount days – at least add to your cart whatever months it allows and pay when able or when your final days of your subscription rolls around like I did. Who knows?
Webform here may be missing up again so a repeat of my last comment to ensure it posts.
@Carolyn Enright – April 7, 2017 at 10:24 am
I’m not quite sure how you mean this?
Going with what I’m seeing “what equipment do I need to use my desktop computer with the hotspot only”, I’ll take this to mean getting online -Yes- then you have it all.
If your computer has Wi-Fi functions you can use the Wi-Fi functions of both to hook each together to get online and placing you Hotspot modem close to a window for good receptions.
Or
Using the cable supplied with the Hotspot (USB/Charger) duel functioning purpose cable – hooked up to the Hotspot just plug it into a USB port of the computer and let it load drivers and such, and your computer to recognize it as a means to use to get online.
I really can’t be more specific than that and ask you to call PCs For People for help to understanding anything further.
Get lost – don’t understand, have additional questions.
Phone support is open 10:00 AM to 5:30 PM Central Time Monday-Friday. 651-354-2552
There should be some instructions/documentation in the shipping box as well to help you understand what needs to be done.
Like I said you have all you should need to get online with your computer and the PCs For People Hotspot modem.
Thanks,
Steve
I’m not quite sure how you mean this?
Going with what I’m seeing “what equipment do I need to use my desktop computer with the hotspot only”, I’ll take this to mean getting online -Yes- then you have it all.
If your computer has Wi-Fi functions you can use the Wi-Fi functions of both to hook each together to get online and placing you Hotspot modem close to a window for good receptions.
Or
Using the cable supplied with the Hotspot (USB/Charger) duel functioning purpose cable – hooked up to the Hotspot just plug it into a USB port of the computer and let it load drivers and such, and your computer to recognize it as a means to use to get online.
I really can’t be more specific than that and ask you to call PCs For People for help to understanding anything further.
Get lost – don’t understand, have additional questions.
Phone support is open 10:00 AM to 5:30 PM Central Time Monday-Friday. 651-354-2552
There should be some instructions/documentation in the shipping box as well to help you understand what needs to be done.
Like I said you have all you should need to get online with your computer and the PCs For People Hotspot modem.
Thanks,
Steve
My hotspot should be arriving soon. Now that I am cutting the cable cord, what equipment do I need to use my desktop computer with the hotspot only. Thank you.
Hello Carolyn, I’m sorry if I gave that impression to anyone.
As long as PCs For People is in business to offer the Internet service (Sprint – Mobile Data), there will always be a mobile hotspot device available. As it’s the only way to pull in the Sprint Data signal needed for the Internet (over the air) and PCs For People offers…
That particular one (Netgear Fuse 779S), I was speaking to Becky about was replaced in P4P online sales offers some time ago.
The Franklin Wireless R850 Hotspot modem is the current one that I’m aware of and that’s being offered by PCs For People right now.
As I understand it, P4P has to offer what Sprint’s own website also offers, or there about, as like last one before a newer model released has replaced the last one for it to have offered.
Mostly like of stock that Mobile Beacon/Pcs For People have on hand, and I’m trying to indicate to everyone.
Hope this clears up your question – in recapping / the PCs For People internet service is available and look for the Franklin Wireless R850 Hotspot modem to be added to your cart during a purchase.
I plan to sign up for low cost internet with pcs for people and am a little confused by your comment to Becky that the mobile hot spot device is no longer available. Does that mean that the internet service is no longer available? Sorry if this is a dump question..I’m old and not very techy.
Check back here soon, Carolyn. Steve, our resident PCs for People guru (he’s a modest guy and doesn’t like it when we call him an expert) will surely answer your question as soon as he sees it.
“Good work, Steve. For those of you who don’t know, Steve is our resident PCs for People expert. We think he may know more about the program than the PCs for People – people.”
Please, we don’t want to discourage PCs For People personnel from having a voice here and answering current/future users/customers questions. I’m only trying to fill the gap till such a time, that they will be active on here to everyone’s questions.
It does appear of Becky’s question that the NetGear 779S FUSE Modem looks to be available again – is this just how you get to the site (some old link?) or what information you believe, that you are seeing there or understanding being presented. . .
Like this-
*A Franklin Wireless R850 will be shipped to customers living in Minnesota.
Confusing even more is the picture (on this one link) showed the FUSE hotspot as well being active.
Only before you make a purchase – I’d say leave it in your cart and get in touch and ask someone at PCs For People what modem will be shipped – which one is listed in your cart.
I would much better like to be known as a user that just happened to take an above average interest in the program’s and service that’s being offered by PCs For People. As a user of it myself – I’m No Expert by any means, though the title you’ve given me – would lead people to think so.
I just try my best to answer all questions registered here, being a volunteer of sorts then and as of a second opinion offered, as I know getting ahold of P4P people, and then in understanding what was said, can be challenging sometimes.
PCs For People – people are great at what they do and know, the help and understanding from a personal represented of theirs should trump all the information I’m to offer to anyone here.
Although most everybody’s interest in them, is of their low prices and keeping the prices continuing to be offered as low as possible and the service as high rated, as if it was from Sprint itself.
(Which it is from Sprint – just for low incomes, some of this through who PCs For People partnered with – long story and climb for everyone involved.)
What most readers here don’t acknowledge is that – if Sprint is in you town, city, and state already – it’s more than likely accessible, and if you qualify for PCs For People eligibility you can obtain their Sprint Internet service offering at the deep discount they offered it.
That’s why P4P relies on it’s volunteers for their most part to running the every day business, in keeping the prices low and to the availably wherever Sprint is already found. The company is lead by professionals of the higher ranks in a structured business and the volunteers follow their directions. That’s my understanding.
The P4P Internet service is not cell phone service as in phones calls, but being carried over the same network towers as it – but it’s of a Data transmission, that’s why it’s important to understand this when looking on the “Sprint Map” to the Data “TAB” there as seeing about your addresses and the DATA service availability.
If I must have a title here, let it be as one who may know – a volunteer to you and the questions you receive, and if I ever fail to instruct others “always seek conformation of any answer I should give” – I’m no expert just a user! I’ve been wrong before and can’t help from being wrong again. : )
@Becky – March 24, 2017 at 6:11 pm
Hi, First you do know this AirCard 779S (Sprint) – NETGEAR Fuse Mobile Hotspot is no longer being offered to online sales customers. There may be some instances where living close to one of their retail stores it’s maybe possible to find or get one yet.
Second to even use this 779S on PCs For People you would have had to of bought it from them at some point when they were offering it. You can’t otherwise bring one (or any Hotspot modem) to the Sprint Internet service with PCs For People, as a Modem has to be sold by them, been registered to use on PCs For People and should still have the PCs For People registered SIM card in it.
Ok – just so were clear on that, yes the 779S can USB hook-up to a computers USB port and feed the Internet signal to the computer that way (Hard Wired), any other device (up to 10) would have to be Wi-Fi capable to pull same signal from the hotspots Wi-Fi antenna. As well the 779S plugged in to a USB port on the computer to give it the Hard Wired Internet signal, it will also at the same time take a charge to charge the 779S Hotspot battery. It’s possible to overcharge this 779S that way by leaving it plugged in all the time – just a warning, battery will swell overtime.
The now offered Franklin Wireless R850 Modem as far as I know, as I don’t have one or hands on. It’s capable of the same signal/charge exchange over the USB cable, but it DOES have a built-in fail safe NOT to be overcharged. I learned this by a customer on here talking about it.
Yes – it’s true that Cheap Internet is an independent website, in so being, it’s one of the best to offer News, Articles, updated information to America’s less fortunate citizens of advantages to be found in wired and wireless Internet service.
If you’d kindly look back to see my comment to
@BRENDA – February 22, 2017 at 10:10 am
@Linda – March 15, 2017 at 11:10 am
and follow that advice. (it’s not far down the page here).
Steve
I would love to get this for my Mom. She lives in Poplar Bluff, Missouri and we can only find one internet service in her area and it is over $60 just for the lowest plan.
Do you cover that area? The zip code is 63901.
@BRENDA – February 22, 2017 at 10:10 am
@Linda – March 15, 2017 at 11:10 am
Coverage Check: http://coverage.sprint.com/IMPACT.jsp?
Be sure to use the middle tab “DATA” (above the map) as that’s the type of coverage needed – that the PCs For People internet service uses. Right hand side column see the color for 4G LTE and locate on the Map, zooming in to your location for a better view of it.
Please follow these instructions to verify coverage before you place your order.
1.Select the device you are ordering (Franklin Wireless 850) as shown in Section A to the left.
2.Enter the main address where you will use the service (street address, city, state, and zip code) as shown in Section B to the left.
3.View data coverage by selecting the “Data” tab as shown in Section C to the left.
4.View “4G LTE” or “Enhanced LTE” coverage as shown in Section D to the left.
5.If you have coverage with your selected device, please complete your order. If you do not, please email internet@pcsforpeople.org and we will investigate whether we have a different device we can offer you. https://www.pcsrefurbished.com/sales/buyInternet.aspx
Get lost – don’t understand, have additional questions.
Phone support is open 10:00 AM to 5:30 PM Central Time Monday-Friday. 651-354-2552
Good work, Steve. For those of you who don’t know, Steve is our resident PCs for People expert. We think he may know more about the program than the PCs for People people.
Mississippi is not among the 21 states listed, but the company’s coverage map certainly shows coverage in Mississippi. We would recommend that you contact the company’s customer service to get the correct answer to your quesiton.
We’re not PCs for People, Brenda. We’re an independent website, but you can contact PCs for People using the contact info we provided in the article on this page.
To clarify things, I had said ” Somewhere earlier, I’ve also seen it was a Mobile Beacon issue with using your own modem with Sprint, although may have been updated just to reflect Sprint as the sole reason now. ”
It still states along this same answer as I gave, but you only see it when purchasing the Internet Service in the PCs for People Internet Offer Overview>Can I bring my own modem?
Answer:
No. Unfortunately, Mobile Beacon’s activation process does not currently allow users to supply their own device. We have asked that our users be allowed to purchase their own devices several times and we will provide updates if the current policy changes. https://pcsrefurbished.com/sales/buyInternet.aspx
So it looks like there’s been no update to Mobile Beacon/Sprint policy for the PCs For People Internet service yet.
Most likely for the reasons I have given in my earlier answer noted in Further More:.
Then the next answer there on the P4P webpage is important for anyone, – PCs For People have a unique partnership with Mobile Beacon that allows them to extend their pricing for Unlimited 4G LTE to schools, nonprofits and certain low income individuals who meet their eligibility requirements. Anyone who purchases the service must provide proof of eligibility and we will routinely validate users ongoing eligibility to continue to receive Mobile Beacon’s service.
PS: @CheapInternet.com Administrator the comments box is acting weird right now, typing in the middle of a word to add a missed letter or adding a space between two words both results in the next letter being removed/erased. Go figure 🙂
Thanks, Steve
Can I bring my own modem?
No. Unfortunately, our activation process with Sprint does not currently allow users to supply their own devices. https://www.pcsforpeople.com/internet
Somewhere earlier, I’ve also seen it was a Mobile Beacon issue with using your own modem with Sprint, although may have been updated just to reflect Sprint as the sole reason now.
Just be glad Rey, we’re able to buy them (out right) and not having to rent them on a monthly bases. . .
From above article:
The modems we offer are $140 for a consumer to purchase directly from Sprint. We are subsidizing the modems to bring costs down to $74.95 which is below Sprint’s wholesale cost. In the future we hope a bring-your-own device policy is allowed and we are also pushing to manufacture our own line of reduced cost modems. Until we are allowed to do that we will continue to offer the best deal we can and what we feel is the best internet offering in the US.
Further More:
Sprint is one of the hardest companies to bring your own device (Sprint branded or not) to, as in this case of (PCs For People) modem, is it needed for the 4G LTE Data connection in which the Sprint SIM card comes installed, linked to the modem’s MEID/IMEI numbers and has been activated for use. Otherwise you’d have to have a device fall within Sprint’s already white listed MEID/IMEI device numbers, Sprint still whitelists devices at a network level.
When it comes to Sprint, you have no options but to play by the rules
Every mobile device that gets approved by the FCC and released for retail has a set of IMEI numbers assigned to it. Based on the device’s IMEI, you can tell its model number, where it was originally purchased, and other metadata, etc…
You’d have better luck in moving a wheelbarrow filled with bowling balls up a 40% hill hopping on one leg, then to bring your own device to Sprint by way of PCs For People.
Rey with PCs For People initial cost (modem+subscription) on the year all up front, you’ll still be saving hundreds of dollars over anyone else’s pricing. Then in year two you’ll save even more by not having to buy the modem and just renew your year’s subscription (year = $120.00 for best subscription pricing). That’s the way it is Feb. 16th 2017.
Free Calls and Texts using your PCS For People service.
For those with a PCs For People account with Internet and Modem as well as your own Smartphone, this is one suggestion (with variables) to try.
I also believe you can do this with either a GSM vs CDMA phone with either of the platforms in Android or iOS iPhone, and then as well with either a Windows, Mac OS X computer for the home use over your computers through the PCs For People modem and internet service.
Set up Google Voice on the phone and you’ll be able to make free phone calls & text thru Google Voice. Do a Google Search for info. to do this – requires a Google Account first. Many App’s on it’s Google play store to choose from enabling this possibly too in free Calls and Texts – if you don’t go the Google Voice route.
If you don’t like one try another one till your happy. Many are free!
Look at the TextNow one – see if it’s right for you.
FREE SMS TEXTING, PICTURE MESSAGING, CALLING, AND VOICEMAIL. Free UNLIMITED calling and UNLIMITED SMS text messaging to all US & Canadian phone numbers.
TextNow gives you your very own dedicated phone number.
[On their Webpage they have some of the cheapest plans and Phone prices I’ve seen – do note your supposedly not able to use these TextNow Phones on another MVNO as they install their own ROM over-writing the original Phones Firmware] see their support pages for further information of their users who wished too.
There are many Apps and variables here, so I’m just putting this out for your information. I’m not wanting to Highjack this article and I Will Not Answer Your Questions to the Related information. I will only answer PCs For Peoples service questions if I’m able…
So you have to go elsewhere for your questions to be answered using Google Voice or a Free App for free Calls and Texts. Got It !
Then by the same eligibility requirements you’ve met in your account with PCs For People, your probably also eligible for a Free Government Cell Phone in the Lifeline program, which Cheap Internet sister site is of a vast amount of information – to go about in achieving that Free Phone and Free Monthly service setup. http://www.freegovernmentcellphones.net/basics/qualify
Just follow through the steps/pages there of the information and hopefully you’ll be on your way to a free phone with free monthly service through the Lifeline Program.
It’s up to you to have a backup plan and cover your assets in multiple ways.
Hope this Info. helps at least one soul reading this.
Thanks, Steve
Hi that’s some good questions, you know it depends on many factors.
There are some sites that claim by users feed back you can get an ideal of any network signal in a city with their users ratings or % of their feed back. Some apps lets to and wants users feed back to, and as well as internet speed testing sites. You might just do a G search for any data base collected as I mentioned.
Lots of people don’t think about it but phone service (cell) is coming to them at less than LTE like 2G & 3G – texts and data internet must always use 4G/LTE or as high in its delivery volumes capability.
PCs For People is only offering 4G/LTE so what can we do with this?
With the Hotspots 10 hour charge and fitting like a phone in our pockets we have mobile 4G/LTE unlimited Data – with a years cost up front to an amount of $10.00 monthly.
Then texting & calling apps on your Smartphones in that can only make use of a Data internet’s signal to work – its possibly better then to a 2G, 3G cell signals.
Should we happen into a business with free Wi-Fi and it would have a stronger signal than our hotspots we can make use of it to.
I’m talking many opportunities here, even some phone carriers are going hybrid in using technology to trade off calls across different delivery mediums or focused on just Data delivery as VOIP.
At home with a free apps on the computer we can make call over VOIP.
BlackJack and Vonage has been doing this for years through a regular looking home phone using your internet data..
Heather you never know as PCs For People don’t either but if it works for you or your friend – think of saving hundreds of greenbacks a year and then to in P4P give you 30 days to ask for a refund…
Balls in your court – take it to the net.
Thanks for your questions,
Steve
I have sprint mobile and have a senior citizen friend on our account that we are paying for so i can make sure he is safe as he lives in stanchfield, mn when i am there internet service is very spotty and inconsistant at best along with phone service about the only thing we can usually count on i text messages.
I am looking to get him set up with his own internet again that he can afford would the service with this be any different with a modem or the same spotty unreliable service?
PCs For People has a JANUARY Sale on ONE Model of a desktop computer for $70.00 – Right Now…
It’s seems to be marked down by $5.00 going with the statement of “Professionally refurbished desktops start at $75”, and shows 5 in stock of this unit when I checked.
[Note: there are 3 other desktop configurations and two laptop options that not part of the JANUARY SALE – FYI please note]
For $70.00 with free shipping and a 30 day return, then a 90 day hardware warranty, you can get the Lenovo ThinkCentre M58p Core 2 Duo E8400 Full Set.
Includes Desktop, LCD, Speakers, Keyboard, Mouse, Video Cable, Power Cords, and Free Gift! Accessories available with the purchase.
This is a basic system that can get you started off in modest proportions, and then offers an upgrade of a few components and a few optional add-on’s like (Software – MS Home and Office for $20.00, Wireless – Micro USB Wireless Adapter for $10.00, Accessories – Wireless Mouse $10.00) none of these are required unless the buyer ads them to the system at the time of purchase…
– Specifications – (*= upgradable at an extra cost) and [free] means comes with the $70.00 price tag.
Brand: Lenovo
Model: ThinkCentre M58p 7483
New or Refurbished – Refurbished (mild to moderate cosmetic wear)
Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3.0GHz (or similar)
*RAM 4GB [free], (Upgradable at an extra cost – $20.00 to $35.00 per choices)
*Hard Drive 160GB [free], (Upgradable at an extra cost – $10.00 to $35.00 per choices)
*Screen Sizes 17″LCD [free], dependent on choice of a 19″LCD for $10.00 more, brands may vary
Audio iMicro Desktop Speaker [free]
Free Gift Chester Creek Headphones [free gift]
Software Package: (included in the $70.00 price tag)
These are some of the programs that come with your computer. Need something else? Ask us.
•OpenOffice/LibreOffice for typing, spreadsheets, and presentations
•Windows Defender, an antivirus program
•Malwarebytes, a program that removes malware
•CCleaner, a program that removes cookies and internet-related viruses
•Mozilla Firefox, an internet browser (requires internet)
•Online Learning, a link to lots of helpful websites for education (requires internet)
•Kiwix, an encyclopedia that you can use without an internet connection
NOTE:::
(Although I had seen Windows 7 and 8.1 being offered as an OS last year by them – It looks, that only a Windows 10 Pro 64 bit is standard on all desktops and laptops they sell now – which alone is about $200.00 from the Microsoft store!)-(Any computer with Windows as the selected operating system requires eligibility verification, or You must be below the 200% poverty level or be an eligible organization.)
I see, some phantom hiccup – though my answers to Della and her posting of like/same questions, clearly indicate that we both had a same experience in not seeing our comments waiting to be approved.
Thus the duplicates.
But the site appears to work as normal as ever right now.
Thank you for answering me. Hope your Friday the 13th is good!
Steve
@ Mr Tech Guru would like to know what kind of device, browser and operating system you use.
Howdy, the same one since 2014 a Windows PC desktop no brand, just one built by myself running 8.1 x64 with IE 11 browser, SSD and 16GB Ram.
Processor: AMD A10-6800K APU Radeon Graphics 4.10 GHz
Ram: 16GB (15.2GB usable)
System Type: 64-bit OS x64 based processor
No Pen or Touch for display
I cleaned out most of the Metro crud for mostly a desktop experience
of the older Windows OS’s.
Steve
@CI Admin.,
Wouldn’t you know everything worked right with that last comment made – except being able to reply to it by the blue box reply method.
I even stayed on this page too.
Steve
Hello @Cheap Internet Admin.,
Have you done any kind of a website upgrade or fiddled with some settings maybe – cause in the usual way it would let me see my comment with the saying “only you are able to view your comment till a moderator approves it” and its not happening or was never shown in last few comments I’ve made.
Then as said, it even kicked me back to mid-page of the first page of comments that were made here – when using the submit button.
I’ve never been able to respond directly to a comment by the BLUE REPLY BOX after each comment on this specific article – like in that ability of other articles here on your website does allow.
Could you please look over the site and see if someone has been or tried to tamper with it.
Thank You,
Steve
We lowly comment moderators are not privy to the inner technical workings of the site and wouldn’t understand them if we were. But we’ve passed your comment on to the tech gurus.
@Cheap Internet Admin.,
Sorry for all same/like answer posts.
I wasn’t getting a moderating statement and see my post when submitted.
I was even kick back in the post comment pages a couple of times too.
Website alright – maybe a bug here?
Steve
If you have Sprint’s Data coverage there – then yes you can get on PCs For People’s Internet plans via the eligibility requirements met. http://coverage.sprint.com/IMPACT.jsp?
Be sure to use the “DATA” tab when checking your address or just zip Code – then on the right side menu look for the corresponding color and see if it’s for 4G LTE. Bingo if it is…
Steve
@ Della http://coverage.sprint.com/IMPACT.jsp?
Type your address in and use the DATA Tab to see – it looks like you have 4G LTE there and then confirm by calling PCs For People customers service. Phone: 651-354-2552.
Steve
@Della – January 10, 2017 at 11:06 am
Please place a Phone call to PCs For People, Phone support is open 10:00 AM to 5:30 PM Central Time Monday-Friday. 651-354-2552
Checking on Sprints Coverage Map using the DATA TAB and entering that Westwood, NJ location looks to have coverage of 4G LTE service. An exact address and zooming in might tell you more and then again that phone call to PCs For People as well. http://coverage.sprint.com/IMPACT.jsp?
If its true ,then its for you and can save hundreds of dollars a year over your like service now.
Steve
That all depends on if and when and where the Sprint national cell network expands its footprint, Della. In othe words, it’s out of PCs for People’s control.
Hello, Is PCs For People program coming to Westwood, NJ and the surrounding areas in Bergen County? The cost of living is high here. I budget almost every day to make ends meet and keep up with the monthly bills. There are many residents here struggling financially.
Best Regards,
Del
@Crystal – December 11, 2016 at 4:47 pm
Hello,
There may be some cases to where PCs For People have given away computers but, I think this is to the really needy on a case by case bases, and still may require whatever donation the person is able to give, then to only in the areas that they would have an office/outreach facility location like in Minnesota and Denver.
Website states this though- “”If you are eligible, you can purchase computers online, or come to one of our offices where computers are available for a donation ranging from $0 to $150.””
But fret not as PCs For People have offered some periodic sales, and then to of their regular pricing offers a really good deal on desktops and laptops computers / when available. Please understand these are computers that have been donated to them and went through by their personal bringing them back to a functional refurbished state. They offer a 30 day return period and a 90 day warranty.
You can purchase a complete PC / Sprint LTE Bundle, this means a Desktop system – Modem – 3 month Internet subscription. Please see my comment at Steve says – December 9, 2016 at 10:41 pm, for the links to see what’s available now, but do note that comment was on a short time sale and the sale prices mentioned of it will not be the same now.
You don’t have to buy a computer from them but, to get just that of the Internet service YES you must purchase a Modem (which is NEW and carries a different warranty) and at least a 3 month subscription – all at the same time in one purchase, and then can be renewed at any of 3 months, 6 months, 12 months subscriptions length there after. The higher amount of months included in a subscription term the more savings to you. A total of 15 months is all that can be pre-paid on an account as beings their policy of having to recertify every 12 months.
PCs for People has been providing affordable technology options to low-income individuals, families with children, those with disabilities, and nonprofits since 1998. Then more recently (earlier this year)started offering their program to a national audience, who for the Internet service they offer must be in a Sprint’s Network coverage area, and to any and all of their offerings one must prove their eligibility.
I can’t answer you of this question- “Is it available in West Virginia?”
They offer a link to Sprint’s coverage map on their website to see when signing up and purchasing – if your within the coverage area, this is under the “add to cart” box and has to have the check mark that you have made sure you are by checking out the map link which takes you to Sprint’s coverage map.
Then using the add to cart button loads a new page – If not wanting a computer just click Proceed to Checkout located on bottom right of the page there – you are able to move back to the prior page to change your order if needed. From here the next page that loads is for your account information (please do keep this information by a screenshot – phone picture or whatever you can, even writing it down) for a later reference to help if needed.
The existing customer is for when you want to renew a subscription, and if this is your first purchase and new account creation just ignore it.
It is also advisable to have your documented proof of eligibility at least dated within the last 6 months (unless annual document – Tax Return) ready to upload during your purchase, they take the file types PDF or image JPG, GIF, PNG etc. to upload. *Include your picture ID with the document or in a second image upload offered there.
Crystal any further fine tuned answers you may need still – I’d ask you to call them at 651-354-2552 Monday-Friday 9:00 am – 5:30 pm Central Standard Time.
Hope this was helpful to you and others.
Thank you,
Steve
I’m trying to understand this program. My question is do they give you a computer,and do you have to buy the modem and pay for services for at least 3 months? Can you renew it after the 3 months? Is it available in West Virginia?
@ Steve,
Just to let you know, and cheapinternet.com as well, I and my wife have much appreciation for the help and information finding a solution to our problem of internet service. Cheapinternet.com helped us find information about other programs and options that we knew nothing about. This is definitely the place to go for help finding low cost internet, no matter where one lives in the country or what their status may be in life. Without this site I wouldn’t have known about PC’s for People or Access AT&T for that matter or the many other sites and programs we were able to check out. Everyone’s problems vary and not all solutions will fit each individuals needs and as it is with Steve and I, we have the same internet service through the same provider but we haven’t the same device or live in the same area. My questions asked over the past 2 weeks were related to anyone having the same issues I was having with the Franklin R850 hot spot device, I didn’t find anyone, and it also seemed that I was getting a bit of run around from the people I bought the device from, so I came here to find some answers.
Since then I have received better information from PC’s for People and the Franklin R850 seems to have recovered from its illness. When I purchase a service or a device I expect the provider or seller to always honor their warranties and to keep their word. Respect is earned not given and once you hear the truth, all the rest is cheap whiskey.
Yes I got another email advising of a 10% off on EVERYTHING sale.
Happy Holidays from PCs for People!
Use Coupon Code: holiday10
Please enter it (just as above) ” holiday10 ” in the Coupon Code BOX at checkout !
All specials are while supplies last and only valid for purchases on 12-9-16 to 12-11-16.
New Internet Customers:
PCs for People is offering high speed Unlimited LTE internet for as low as $9 per month. – (as copied from email) [which looks to be a re-hashed cybermonday email that was sent to me earlier] because it states of this email the newest Holiday Special (12-09-2016) today-
$103.45 – 3 months of internet service at $11.33 per month and wireless modem.
$134.95 – 6 months of internet service at $10.63 per month and wireless modem.
$175.45 – 12 months of internet service at $8.5 per month and wireless modem.
So on a 12 month Internet with Modem purchase it’s less than $9.00 a month… As I understand it the coupon code brings an additional savings by 10% on top of these special prices.
LAPTOP buyers – there are two listed right now ! https://www.pcsrefurbished.com/sales/categorySales.aspx?categoryID=4
DESKTOP buyers – there are nine listed right now in different configurations with two having complete deals of – Sprint LTE Bundle,
that means Desktop system – Modem – 3 month Internet subscription ! {I see now where the low as $9.00 a month for Internet service has meaning, as if you buy one of the two desktop complete deals you can change your subscription from the “FREE” 3 month to a 12 Month subscription option and pay $9.00 for each month then.} https://www.pcsrefurbished.com/sales/categorySales.aspx?categoryID=3
Disclaimer::: I have no association with Pcs For People – other than being an Internet Subscriber myself, and then only a commenter here on Cheap Internet as well. I am a Low-Income American…
Who found a great savings with PCs For People and wish other low-income Americans to save as I do.
I’m going to bow out of the Rant’s here about PCs For People, to what I may think they should/could do and be. As in my feelings I have shared lately about them, are about the same as yours. Then to on top of everything else I’ve mentioned, I have had no real problems in the overall Internet service experienced from them.
PCs For People offers me excellent pricing at which point is the bottom line to a customers loyalty, wherever else the company may fall short in doing so with it’s business model, may very well be an estimation of what to expect with a nonprofit. These two points of low pricing and unlimited Internet service from a major network, I feel they have down pat, and with these two basic offerings in their business model, I can and will continue to expect from them and be a loyal customer.
I’ll try from now on to focus on the strengths of the program and the company offering it, and to offer readers here of any help I’m able to in any information as I’m to understand it.
In an overall picture or image here of seeing how we get the pricing and Internet service as an end user, just try thinking of a funnel shaped form, where as Sprint has 30,000 employees (Q1 2016)*, then in the rolls in Mobile Beacon / Mobile Citizen, Mobile Citizen is an affiliate of Voqal, a consortium of organizations with a long history in public media, all of which to their actual numbers of employees evades my research for anyone of them.
Then at the tip or output is our PCs for People which has a number of employees at 4**, and relies heavily on volunteers for the most part.
I and my Wife have read the information for returns, refunds, warranties and all other information concerning the hot spot as you have stated here and there is a lot missing. I am concerned as well, because mostly of the missing information and also depending on who I talk to or correspond with on email I get different answers. It would be so easy to put everything regarding the hot spot on their website to reduce confusion and provice clarity on refunds deadlines warranties, who to talk to and so on. I was trying yesterday to relay that information and I let my frustration get the best of me and as far as I can tell cheapinternet.com did not publish one of my diatribes about pc4p on this forum. I am not bashing pcs4p, I just want more information, that is my right as a customer.
I like the service, and I am not unsatisfied with it, I am using it everyday and have not had any problems with the signal to speak of. It just seems that pcs4p as you also stated need to do a better job of informing their clients what to do in case of what ever happens.
Pcs4p did offer to take the hot spot back after the 7 days and replace it if I was so inclined and I thanked them for that offer, they are nice on the phone and in emails and have not treated me with any disrespect. I don’t think there is any major problems with the device, and it hasn’t shut off and it has been on for 2 days straight and that is a good thing. As far as the invoice, we received one with the hot spot when it arrived, and as for registering it, that is something I need to do soon. I don’t know if they mean Mobile Beacon or Sprint when they talk of Network Provider, most likely Sprint, and would assume as much from the email I received yesterday from pcs4p stating that Sprint is the one to contact with problems concerning the hot spot. Your other concerns are noted and I will look into it and let all know what they say as far as shipping and such.
It looks like just you and I are the only ones that give a darn about our service with pcs4p here and anywhere else as far as I can tell from the searches I’ve done, I find that a bit odd. Maybe it is just me that is odd. Thanks for all of your help.
Not seen at all as a complainer here – and if it wasn’t for comments and attentions given to the issues and facts, then many people wouldn’t even know of such happenings and to any relief or resolve available.
About more commenters here – well – I to wished there were more as to the service and of the savings they have seen. What it means to them, and if of any problems they have experienced in any of the process to all realms involved with this beings as a pre-paid service up front. What maybe PCs For People has said they’d do for them and then fell short in or surpassed what was said.
I have been hashing over something, and if I were you, and if the Franklin was to shut-down one more time, I would seek a replacement for it now before any longer of a time period expires…
I say this because of these printed facts on PCs for People website.
Internet FAQ>PCs for People Internet Offer Overview https://pcsrefurbished.com/about/internetFAQ.aspx
It’s stated on their website that a warranty is offered as such-
“”Modem Warranty – 60-Day Mobile Beacon and One Year Limited Manufacturer Warranty
Mobile Beacon currently provides a 60-day hardware warranty through the network provider and a one year limited warranty is provided by the device manufacturer. The warranty starts from the date a device is activated on behalf PCs for People, not when the device is received by the end user. PCs for People provides device support, but does not provide warranty replacement for internet devices.””
“”Modem Return Policy
Items must be returned within 7 days from the date the device is received.””
Then to of the fact that I personally didn’t get a sales receipt for my Hotspot device to prove the sales date for any later warranty from the manufacturer of the one year period stated therein. I did register it on Netgear’s website as to being the manufacture of my device.
The part above “through the network provider”, I would think is Sprint being referenced but, then why not name Sprint directly then?
I see a lot of missing information here, one for instance is in a return of a Modem. Nothing is stated as a proper means and that if a prior notification must be given to them, what address is to be used for returns and if a Return Material Authorization (RMA) number is needed and to be issued to the customer then by what means. Can a customer print off a return shipping label to be used. There are many website PCs For People could visit to learn how to make their site more informative and helpful to their customers. I mean after all this is a FAQ page to their customers and they have been in business for many years…
This is a personal decision for you only to make a call in Vint.
@Steve,
Thank you for the info on VPN I will look into it. Zoho is a business email that offers an inexpensive alternative to business web mail and is mainly for business’s. It came highly recommended at the time when I had to find a new web mail provider. It’s connected to our website and use it only for business. I appreciate all of your answers concerning pc4p and although I sound like a constant complainer I am happy with the service so far. I am receiving a very good internet signal and for most of the time no interruptions and there are three of us on most of the day every day.
I am surprised that there are not more internet subscribers commenting here.
The prior answer from P4P – “Anna at PCs4People. Franklin 480 device; the unit will shut off when on the charger is past the point of charge to save the battery from damage, the device can be plugged in directly to the micro USB power supply with the battery removed.”
Then as you’ve stated “”We have had ours for 11 days now and the device has shut off twice.””
Out of my curiosity, in any of these two instances has the Franklin 480 been used only by a Wi-Fi signal to any connected device, or has there been at least one device used as by being USB connected to the Franklin 480? Hardwired then for a network connection, or if only of Wi-Fi connected devices was there still used a USD supplied to the Franklin and it was not on the battery only to being without any USB connected to it when it shut down these two times?
If so in one case by a USB connection to a device (PC,Phone,other), the Franklin may be receiving a charge from that USB connected device besides allowing that USB hardwired device to have access to the Sprint network.
This is how I use my Fuse with it constantly USB hardwired to my PC, for the PC to access the web by Sprints network. I leave the Fuse hotspot on all the time, so when I fire up my box it’s ready to connect to the web, and I also use the Wi-Fi feature to feed my Phone it’s data connection – which is a BYOP to Life Wireless a Lifeline provider and which I’ve then opt-in to the voice only option and not using the FCC new Broadband requirement to the Lifeline program.
Although the Fuse doesn’t seem to have the precautions to shut down if in a past the point of a full charge to save the battery from damage as the Franklin 480 offers. Maybe it’s going into a trickle mode possibly in keeping the Fuse battery at a fully charged state then? The Fuse never feels warm to the touch for me.
The part that Anna said “the device can be plugged in directly to the micro USB power supply with the battery removed.” I have just tried this with my Fuse while USB connected to my PC and online typing this here – in removing the battery, it’s out of the Fuse now and no disconnection have I experienced and the Fuse is still powered on.
I didn’t know this was possible to do.
EDIT: In less than 5 minutes it has disconnected now (more like 3 min.) and trying to power it back up all I get is the purple Netgear Aircard display and nothing else of the on UI. Putting the battery back in I’ve noticed it has swollen (like that of my Samsung Note3 battery) when I was tethering it to my PC being connected by the USB all the time. (I think signal fluxions and drops causes batteries to swell for working all the more in reestablishing a solid connection.)
My box is an al la cart self assembled unit and I don’t remember if it has any Wi-Fi capability components itself. Looks like I need to do a couple of things now, read up on my parts in my PC box and to order another battery. Maybe looking into a router to use yoo.
PCs for People may have moved away from the Fuse for general distributions for the fact that there are no precautions to shut it down if of a past the point of a full charge to save the battery from damage. Which in shipping costs could amount significantly to them even if the batteries were covered by Sprint in someway.
Vint you can search for the term “Sprint forums” and find many to show for results.
I’m sure that Sprint has some kind of a lock (IMEI or similar) to a specific device on their network but, have you tried to move the Sprint SIM in the Franklin 480 to your FreedomPop Fuse to see what’s possible there in doing that?
@Vint Greetings,
Thank you for your answers.
I’m just a lowly contributor to cheapinternet.com Sir.
Your statement of- “I don’t know how to set up a VPN”, sometimes it is as simple as buying into a services and installing their client to automate of the connections and settings. Some VPN”s offer a free trial period, while some charge x amount for a few days service to try it and some don’t offer anything but a refund in the first month of paying if for some reason your not happy. The free ones I’ve used but not anymore, for my own reasons. Although buying a month is at a higher rate, it is a good means to try before a year purchase for the better rates. I’m with VPN.ac now, just let me know and I’ll post some hopefully still good discount codes if your interested.
I have a email at Zoho, I’ve never used it and in really having took any time to understood it, as it was a giveaway thing when I signed up.
posteo.de is only 1.00 EUR per month and in USD not much more.
You can signup and pay anonymously – “We are an independent email service based in Berlin and are highly concerned with sustainability, security, privacy and usability. Posteo is completely ad-free and 100% powered by green energy from Greenpeace Energy. We advocate for “informational self-determination”: In these times of network surveillance, Posteo protects the privacy of its users with a modern and innovative encryption and security model.”
About conversing with me by email as apposed to just this forum, if ever you get a posteo account I’d be happy too.
Go back to Steve says December 4, 2016 at 1:11 am and the link there right above the reply tab/box – go to it and start at the last comment there working down and you find how some are saying things that may give you ideals to answer this statement of yours
“I would like to know how to hook this Franklin hub into my linksys router”
74 thundering on down the road.
Thanks, Steve
FYI,
For all of those out there with the Franklin 480 hot spot device, We have had ours for 11 days now and the device has shut off twice. Causing me to remove the battery & re install and turn on, has anyone on PC’s for People had this problem with this particular device. I am not extremely concerned as I have had problems with phones doing this in the past but I would like to hear from more PC’s for People subscribers that have the same device.
@Steve,
As far as security on line I use Microsoft Security Essentials on my PC, I use Malware bytes for mobile like phone and tablets. I have found that this along with being vigilant about what I do and where I go on line along with turning off the internet on the device when not in use or using airplane mode. I am very careful about what I download and update and where I get it from.
As far as email goes, My website email is Zoho, they say they don’t sell information and I have never had any problems in that sense with them. The others are a different story, G mail, Yahoo, Outlook, are all terrible and Gmail being the worse, but I have been using all of these for a very long time and I am not going to switch now. I am also not going to pay for email if I don’t have to, although an @reagan email would be nice to have but I just don’t want to pay for email.
I don’t know how to set up a VPN yet, but I am going to learn soon, to add I change my passwords a lot, never the same for very long.
@Steve,
Good evening, first of all I received an email back from Anna at PCs4People. Franklin 480 device; the unit will shut off when on the charger is past the point of charge to save the battery from damage, the device can be plugged in directly to the micro USB power supply with the battery removed. All of this is fine except for the fact that mine shut off when it wasn’t on the charger. My other question was getting a Net gear fuse, she said they are no longer available, even though they still have it and the MIFi hotspot on their website. She also said that there is no need to worry about the data counter on the device as we are on an unlimited plan. These are the only questions she answered, she didn’t answer the signal level question as I among others only get one bar most of the time and I live in a solid Sprint data area as stated previously.
Thank yo for answering me back and for the information, all said and done I am satisfied with the service so far and I even got 2 bars on the signal for a while today. What I was asking you about another forum was being able to converse with you by email as apposed to just this forum, are you just a contributor to cheapinternet.com or are you also a creator as well.
Also just to let you all know as I am typing on my PC and the hub is in the other room without any kind of boost or router ( I don’t know how to connect it to my router) I am getting 58 mbs, and that isn’t to shabby. I would like to know how to hook this Franklin hub into my linksys router for obvious reasons. Thanks for everything.
Any thoughts, ideals, or experiences here since PCs For People is a Mobile Internet and with still all the nasty’s that come from the Internet in general to one’s use of this platform in our digital age.
I’d like to hear of all that’s useful in PC Desktop-Laptops and mobile Devices like Phones-Tablets-Netbooks-etc… Free and Paid towards your privacy, protection and just good practices with your peace of mind in the usage of the Internet through PCs For People.
Although free has more of a consequence to an individuals privacy, there is really no guarantee that a paid product by way of your paying for it, offers you any more of a guarantee in that of your data won’t be collected and then sold on to others, which can then lead to cause you harm and damages in your life.
Privacy Statements have evolved to lengthy statements, and terms with the wordage being used needs an attorney to hash it over for a clear and beneficial understanding of what your agreeing too.
WOT users had a profile created of their use with it in the date, time, place and Web IP address together with an assigned user ID.
There is talk of not only free and paid online services and installed software, browser add-ons, and even the Win 10 OS all are doing this but, that maybe all points are up for grabs now ?
This is also true with drivers, as the case with NVIDIA adding Telemetry to their Latest Drivers update. Telemetry is essentially considered spying by many as it’s a way to send data back and forth. What it’s doing in our video drivers when it’s never been needed before.
An entire industry has grown around buying all this information about our digital lives, from your ISP, OS, installed applications, metro apps, mobile apps to the websites one may visit.
Our Data is collected for harvesting our personal information, interests, habits, etc. and data from the online world is merged with personally identifiable information from the offline world, everyday, says the head of global privacy and public policy at Acxiom, a leading data collection firm to The New York Times.
It’s like examining a cross-cut of an adult tree growth rings, you see an extended picture of it’s life, so it’s also true with the collection of our data – just think of a two year period online what could be learnt of ourselves.
A new class of slime as Data Brokers are even offering up biding on the real-time web visits to a high value profile of a user once their being tracked across the web.
This network involuntarily collection and use of people’s data that’s not approved by themselves, can then link to a number of personal online services, interests, group associations, as well as banking, medical, and job related to each of the profiled users, not to mention many other online visits as the activity of the user may demonstrate.
What this can lead to is identity thefts among other personal hardships such as job, insurance denials and not to say of the simple harassment of spam to themselves.
The trading of personal data by organized criminal gangs which is then used to commit fraud against individuals and corporate organizations has become one of the fastest growing crimes in the world.
This is of my setup as I use the web-
OS = Windows
Browser = IE11 with StartPage as my homepage and search engine,
starting to use SlimJet as a second web browser
Kaspersky KIS = antimalware w/ firewall and Emsisoft antimalware
RoboForm = password manager for website logins w/ strong password generator
Maxa = cookie manager covering many browsers – cache/history/cookie deletion w/ cookie evaluation – white/black lists
Adguard = ad blocker w/ personal privacy modules and settings
KeyScrambler = encrypts my keyboard key strokes
VPN = hides my real IP address
All these are paid for except web browser-search engines.
So how and what do you use to help yourselves combat the alarming information I gave above?
Thanks,
Steve
PS: free web based email services are also mining your data, I’m learning to use POSTEO out of Germany for my emails now,
A paid service which is much cheaper than StartMail by the same people as StartPage search engine.
@Vint
I get it now what you’ve been saying and that you have indeed been to the Hotspot Manager web UI page.
Mine has this same info-
“Next cycle begins on 12/31/2016”
and different from yours is this-
“Billing Cycle 0 GB LEFT 28 days left”
“Current Session Usage 1.00 GB used 1d 19h Elapsed time”
Tis not my anniversary date either and most likely when P4P business account resets but, as I will state we’re on an unlimited plan and other than the 23GB point we shouldn’t worry with it.
I wouldn’t pay much attention to these readings as they are not necessary – being on an unlimited plan that we are.
There is that of Sprint, when they specify 23GB for their users as a point that network management would kick in. This is not throttling as it would still be affective till the end of your billing cycle, but, called Network Management and is used when you have used 23GB in data for the month and Sprint reserves the right to de-prioritize the traffic of high bandwidth users on unlimited data plans.
What this means to a 23 GB data user then is the customers engaged in data intensive applications may experience reduced performance until the site becomes unconstrained or the user moves to a non-resource constrained site. Site means tower serving up your network signal. See my earlier post of October 25, 2016 at 1:48 pm , for a lot more on this topic. https://www.cheapinternet.com/low-income-internet/pcs-for-people/comment-page-3#comments
I had made some inquires to SALES at P4P before my purchase, as I’ve said earlier Chris G. was very helpful to me. He had set aside a Fuse HS if I acted in a certain time frame, which I did.
I still would contact P4P about the return of Franklin HS in hopes that P4P would then send you the Fuse model. Explaining to them most of what you have to me of in a good solid Sprint coverage area and of your past experience on the same network with FreedomPop and it being with the Fuse Model HS.
Some early mornings here my HS has rebooted as maybe it’s a network thing being done and maybe why your HS went off-line and didn’t return – yes beings a different time period than I mentioned of mine doing it. Maybe some network update has to be preformed periodically?
About the two Gigs more of use, are you sure a neighbor isn’t tapping your connection as well? Maybe after the restart it linked up better as was able to also update your network usage.
Have you changed your default WiFi password and chosen that of a proper Encryption – maybe like(WPA2_Personal_AES) mode.
This is all new to me – as well in moving from a hardwired in nature internet, to the tethering of my PC off my phone for a while, to this kind of a setup in mobile internet with a hotspot. A shared closeness with that of my phone but, on a totally different network.
Some times I read on http://www.howardforums.com/forumdisplay.php/53-Sprint for tips, tricks, and hacks that others have knowledge of. Careful if you join cause it’s an al la cart of moderators desecration if they see you as advertising or a nuisance poster which leads to warnings and a possible ban. I joined when I was tethering off my phone to my PC and spoke of deals from my MVNO I had seen. I just visit without logging in now that makes searches harder with the captcha used every time a new search term is entered. If you search from your browsers search box as close as you can think of – the links there will take you directly to that topic in the forms at HF.
I would encourage you to visit the Mobile Hotspot Manager http://MyHotSpot or http://192.168.1.1 , this is on Sprints end of things with our hotspots, Though the paper work sent with the Franklin may be a different address but, I would think Sprint sould use only one central site and it being for all of it’s network hotspots.
I’m curious as I see this now of “SIM Security” under settings there >Network>SIM Security, then it reads as”SIM Security: Inactive”.
October 26, 2016 at 10:48 pm I had shared this information earlier:
3rd. This is how everything is setup… Mobile Beacon owns the rights to a certain frequency that Sprint wants to use. In order to use the frequency that MB owns, Sprint has to provide a low-cost internet service to eligible low-income people. Sprint has agreed, and then Mobile Beacon works with the non profit business PCs for People to work directly with the eligible recipients and provide them troubleshooting support. For support, you contact us first. If there is something that we cannot handle or do, we contact Sprint directly to figure out the issue.
That’s were Sprint comes in to the picture and that P4P is only a business partner and as such a business account with Sprint that we all share – that’s the way it’s setup. We’re not supposed to be able to contact Sprint directly without first being connected through and by P4P to Sprint’s Tech support.
Back when I joined P4P, they had just rolled out their Internet service to all of Sprint’s National coverage areas as it was only a prior offering to Colorado or Minnesota residents, I do believe.
Chris had told me all answers I sought mostly and had offered a direct phone number to Sprint Tech or customer service which ever one he gave me (I’ve not used it) and it’s posted twice here abouts in my answers and I won’t post it again.
PLEASE DO POST A LINK- “As far as not being able to unlock the devise and use with another Sprint service, it has a sim card in it and it works with Sprint and I did read somewhere on pc4p site that they could be used elsewhere and if and when I find where I read that information I will copy it and send it to all.”
I’m very interested to read this and correct my statement as being ready for the junk pile or recycler – of these hotspots.
Thank,
Steve
PS: these might interest you and others here- http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1889475-Franklin-R850-amp-External-Antenna
@Steve,
Again thanks for all of the information you give us on pc4p. As far as our anniversary date goes we started on 11/25/16 so that doesn’t jive with the date on the device. How did you get a Netgear Fuse from them? Do you live close to one of their retail stores or did you request one? This question you will not be able to answer but others who have the Franklin hotspot might, We went outside an hour ago and when we came in 30 minutes later the hotspot had shut off. Wouldn’t turn back on and the battery is charged. I removed the battery and re installed and it came back on but showed 2 more Gigi bytes of data used. This is really weird as we have not had any problems with the Netgear Fuse we have from FreedomPop. As far as not being able to unlock the devise and use with another Sprint service, it has a sim card in it and it works with Sprint and I did read somewhere on pc4p site that they could be used elsewhere and if and when I find where I read that information I will copy it and send it to all.
I will send another email to pc4p and find out what they have to say about the unit cutting off, but if there is some way I can get my hands on a Netgear Fuse in its place I would do it as it seems to be a better device. I also don’t understand why we as the customer of pc4p should have to jump through hoops and deal with Sprint ourselves to get the device to function correctly the way it is supposed to. As I have stated several times, we live in a solid 4glte Sprint coverage area and do not have the same signal problem with FreedomPop on the Netgear Fuse, it always has 2 bars and 60% of the time it is 3 bars so this sounds like a pc4p problem not on our end. I look forward to hearing back from you,
You’ve said- Have you noticed a cycle end date on your Franklin hotspot – when I cycle through the menu on the Franklin hotspot I noticed a cycle end date of 12/31/16.
I’m on the Netgear Fuse so our menus will be different and I don’t have that listing. This 31st date wouldn’t be the day you activated your hotspot (turned it on and connected to the web) would it?
Cycle – sounds to me like when your billing changes over to a new month. This is the only thing I can think of, you might call P4P and find out for sure – if they can’t tell you have them connect you with Sprint Tec support them and ask there.
While I was speaking to a P4P agent today she said she could connect me with a Sprint Tech agent and I had her do just that.
I spoke to him of my one bar and he had me go online to the Hotspot web interface and reset it by setting tab on the left menu there > then Network tab at top > then Update Profile box down the page some. http://MyHotSpot or http://192.168.1.1 this is on Sprints end of things with our hotspots…
I told him I saw 3 bars flash on briefly and then went back to 1 bar,
the tech agent said it will take some time and if it was still the same tomorrow call P4P and have them connect me back to Sprint Tech support. He did say the most I would see is 3 bars.
We spoke of signal boosters and he said they were only available to phone users, I ask if I could buy my own elsewhere and use it and he said yes. If I call him tomorrow I’ll see if we can buy them separately on our own through Sprint to use.
I did find out with these Hotspots we are not able to unlock them if we are no longer eligible for Internet service from PCs For People to maybe use them with Boost or FreedomPop on Sprints network.
I asked don’t we own them then and the P4P agent said yes you do own it but, it was set up to use on a business account.
So their JUNK to us after we’re no longer are eligible for their Internet service and it can’t be used with another Sprint provider – – heck we can’t even use it again if we should become eligible for PCs For People Internet service at a later time.
The way it stands now if we were to become eligible down the road we must buy a new Hotspot again with a prepaid subscription term.
This is somewhat covered in the article above on the Hotspot – just not as transparent as P4P could of answered in these details as it didn’t cover that these Hotspots are for one service and are doomed to the recycler after it’s use on their Internet service. That’s not a good business move to being GREEN in todays world.
Steve
@ Steve,
Thanks for the updated information, I would still like to know if you have some understanding of the cycle date on the device and on the Sprint my hotspot page where it states amount of Gigi bytes used and left in the cycle. Mine states that the cycle changes at the end of the month and the limit is 60 Gigi bytes. Since we are all dealing with an MVNO buying from Sprint and we are using PCs for People as the conduit these cycle dates and Gigi bytes allowed may no matter. Since I am new to this, and you may have more experience I thought you might know. Is this the only forum where we can converse on this topic?
You’ve stated- “but the number of laptops for sale was higher when I placed my order.”
This is cause of supply and demand and just what they would have on hand ready to go. The laptop link below shows this message now-
“No products found.”
In the Black Friday email I received it had this part-
If your in the market for a Laptop or even a Desktop and want it to offer certain things/features I’d call them and see what they can do.
Might even be possible to get on an early bird list or a heads up notice when they would be expecting more laptops to offer on their site.
I could say email sales at PCs For People and ask in that way sales@pcsforpeople.com
This hasn’t work to good for me lately as I address them to Chris G. which I have written to before but he hasn’t answered my last two.
I did get an answer from Anna F. in an email to sales about my cart and the 15% discount though. I asked the Phone agent there today, if Chris was still working there and she said she was not at liberty to say. So I don’t know about Chris – he was nice and offered much information to me.
Steve
@ Vint, and Henry as well as everyone else here on PCs For People Internet service:)
The thing we all need to look in to is moving our Anniversary Date to fall within the time frame of Black Friday / Cyber Monday Holiday periods. If we would want to take full advantage of these 15% / 10% off discount days on a 12 month subscription plan basis in the future.
That is if they run them again which is a 50/50 chance of them doing so.
I made a call while typing this – to them (#9 inline) to talk to a staff member. Their phone system does update your wait status while waiting on hold letting you know of your position inline has changed.
It also gives you a periodic opportunity’s while on hold to leave a voice mail if you wish to and not to stay waiting on hold any longer.
This is my first call I’ve placed to PCs For People and the waiting by an updating system seems to move fast enough (as maybe there is more than one staff taking calls), the music being played isn’t to bad.
Being at #9 and I’m answered in 17 minutes now.
Changing of your Anniversary Date:
By flat out quitting your Internet service – it is possible by quitting your Internet service entirely and getting a refund sent to you in 10 days but, it’s NOT BENEFICAL, because once you do that you have to buy a new Hotspot device all over again with them in the starting over or up a new Internet Service subscription term period with them.
-One exception – they said is when your bill becomes due don’t pay it right away, and when you do pay it – this changes your anniversary date in that way of the day you paid on.
I asked how long is it of a time frame, before I’m kicked out of the system for good in not paying. She stated they don’t do that. She didn’t answer my question directly with a time period but, said you will remain in the system.
I can see where a recertify may be needed here, if you were to go for
to long of a time without paying.
So that’s the only way I have found out to change your Anniversary Date. By the adding of some months now to fall just short a month or two of November’s month and not paying for the month(s) just before November will reset your Anniversary Date to when you do pay them.
Of course this means “NO” PCs For People internet for a spell if you do… In being existing Internet customers and of a 15% discount on a years subscription price (12months) is only a $18.00 savings to you.
Which breaks down to a $1.50 a month and not worth it to me personally.
PS: It seems that of some question the customer service agent will not or is not authorized to discus with me and I have a return call set from Supervisor to ask these. So if I can ad something later I will.
To answer your question about the bars on the device as far as I can tell, and I have to put my glasses on to see it as it’s so small, there is only one bar showing. In contrast, our Netgear Fuse hotspot from FreedomPop has a larger display and with it we get two bars most of the time and sometimes three. With the Franklin hotspot the three of us can all get on without any problems, I have downloaded updates to programs and though sometimes it is slow I haven’t had any problems so far. I have been online this week doing research and the signal did drop off and slow down a few times but it came back quickly. When using the Netgear Fuse from FreedomPop last month we never had any problems either to speak of, as I stated before we are in a solid area of Sprint 4glte and the tower is 2 to 3 miles away. Have you noticed a cycle end date on your Franklin hotspot? Just curious.
We have had our service for 7 days and so far so good. I did ask PCs for people about the black Friday discounts and they responded back saying it was a one time deal, so snooze you loose in other words. This question is for anyone who has more experience with them, when I cycle through the menu on the Franklin hotspot I noticed a cycle end date of 12/31/16. Does anyone know what this is or what it means, if so I would like to know. I’ll bet Steve knows. Thanks for all of the help everyone has given me I appreciate it, having internet for 1/3 the cost of Big Cable is a blessing. TWC/Charter have sent us four offers in the mail for their services since we cut the cord, It used to take weeks to get responses back from them when we had their services.
I got my subscription service and computer at the end of October, so the 15% discount on Black Friday and 10% discount for Cyber Monday were offered after my purchases. I guess I jumped the gun too quickly on the offers. But I guess I was able to cancel the higher priced services for a month, so the savings there helped to cushion missing the discount offers during the Thanksgiving holiday period. It seems that more sales occurred during last weekend than when I purchased, but the number of laptops for sale was higher when I placed my order.
Wishing you some luck here in your email contact to them.
To where I had stated in the Black Friday sale comment earlier of this-
“I would say at least – start an account and place an order just short of paying for it on Black Friday, so it will possibly be honored later, that’s for anyone that don’t have one yet.”
Will I had an account already and tried this in adding some months time on my subscription but, as I was only shown the largest time of a 6 month extension period I could add.
So I did add that 6 months to my cart and then had to re-submitted my current eligibility proof – then I logged out without completing my order, and then sent an email to PCs FOR People about what I did, and that of not seeing a whole year I could add and questioning why.
I then got an email on the 29th saying-
“The system will only allow you to have no more than 15 months of service on a device (as we need to update proof on a yearly basis) and that is why you could not complete the order for a year subscription.”-” You can still get the 3 or 6 month subscription at 15% off if you place the order by 5:30 today (end of business day) but unfortunately, you cannot get the year at the discounted price.”
I just now checked my PCs For People account and of my adding earlier to the 6 months subscription extension with the 15% off discount – it is still being shown in my cart there. That’s tonight of this 30th date. If it’s still there in the morning I will try to purchase it and report here of what happens then.
Maybe Vint, this is food for thought to you and as in knowing of my experiences with my cart there.
By the way Vint, out of my curiosity with your stated good reception – how many bars is your Hotspot showing? I have only one, rare for two but, is true of sometimes like 5%. I’m able to open many webpages at once and do all I care to do in normal web use with my one bar and seems good in speed and responsiveness.
On the subject of PCs for People Holiday Sales/Specials, I wished once a PCs For People member has gotten a discount applied, it would then become reoccurring to them from that point onward in any subscription renewals they make. Just my 2 cents…
Thanks,
Steve
I will email them today and see if they will give me the holiday discount anyway, you never know. After 2 full days of unlimited 4glte we are very satisfied with the hub hotspot and the mega bytes per second we are getting from it are great. My daughter, wife and I are all on at the same time without any lag at all, we are in a solid 4glte area of Sprint data and the tower is only 3 miles down the road and I am sure this helps. I will keep all updated as we test this forward. Thanks for all of the help and information.
Vint
NOTE: 11-27-2016
I had once thought and believed – in that of a whole total sum to a12 months Internet subscription term of a per-paid period, was all one could enroll in and then be valid and approved by PCs For People.
I now see in the PCs For People email sent to me of the Cyber Monday Special 10% off sale, it has this added information:
“”*You must provide new proof of eligibility once per year. Each account has a maximum of 15 months, so all plans may not be visible.””
So you still must recertify your eligibility every 12 months on/or just before your Anniversary Date. You are able in fact to prepaid up to a maximum of 15 months, instead of the 12 months I had written here.
Then, I’m in the understanding if you are not eligible any longer for their program of cheap internet service because you don’t qualify now.
Beings then, if this non-qualifying results in a surplus remaining of your prepaid Internet payments available to you, after this of your Anniversary Date, PCs For People will then do a refund in any of your unused Internet prepaid months remaining on your account.
Hope I’ve made this a bit clearer to help you understand.
Thanks,
Steve
Hey all, I got another email from PCs For People advising of a 10% off on everything Cyber Monday Special.
Use this code just like this – cybermonday10
Using the Coupon:
Select the products you wish to purchase and enter the coupon code ” cybermonday10 ” at checkout.
[ If a new customer have your eligibility document prepared to upload (copied to a file format of .jpg or .pdf and others), while your enrolling and purchasing what you want. ]
All specials are while supplies last and only valid for purchases on 11-28-16, Cyber Monday.
Cheap Internet Readers:
Scroll down the page here on Cheap Internet and find the “Older Comments” link to see my comment of all that was covered in the Black Friday 15% off on everything sale, as the same items per their supplies availability are the same, just a little higher in price now.
This sale is going on now – though it’s for the Cyber Monday Special and is only 10% off on everything, and also a one day event as well.
I kind of had a feeling that PCs For People would run something once again on Cyber Monday, as the Black Friday Sale was only a one day event too.
It would be interesting to know if the prices shown are then discounted an additional 10% with the ” cybermonday10 ” code being used.
Like it list now –
New Customers – Modem + 3 Months Internet was $114.95 = $103.45 now.
And for anyone (existing or new customers) like Desktops – Start at $45.00 now.
So if someone could report here in either case, if of these lowered prices – were then discounted an additional 10% by the code being used. Which as I read and understand it should be the case.
Hope some of you are able to enjoy these additional discounts !
Thanks,
Steve
Welcome, and that’s good to hear your in – sorry PCs for People could of worked something out for you in beings right at the discount drawn line as you were.
I guess they have to be strict somewhat on their programs actual discounted days they do offer. Have you tried to email them to see a final word on the subject?
What about talking to them about in the comings months, that if your anniversary date isn’t changed to be a few days later, you’ll be in the same boat next year. If they do in deed run some Holiday Discounts. Your term renewal will be due before any of the discounted days offered.
You do know that in the 3 months subscription term that your on, you can get any discounts applied during these days by upping your subscription term to any of the 3 or 6 months additional periods being added.
What I’m to understanding your just not allowed to go over a 12 months total in pre-paying, as around your 12 month anniversary date you’ll have to resubmit eligibility documents once again.
Stay tuned here, cause if I learn of any more discounts I’ll post them here for all readers to save even more on their already super low pricing they have.
Unfortunately we applied on the 22nd and then received an email the very next day of the reduced sale prices for Black Friday. It would be nice if they would give us the discount since it was so close but either way it is a big savings over BIG CABLE’S $40.00 per month internet. If you live in the coverage area there is not any reason if one qualifies to not get internet from PCs4 People. Happy Thanksgiving to all.
Hello there Cheap Internet people,
Our Franklin hotspot arrived in the mail today and we are now getting 4glte unlimited from PCs4 People. We opted for 3 months to find out how good it works and it works great, we live in a great area of Sprint 4glte data and get very good reception. We saved up money and applied on Tuesday the 22nd and we were approved in less than 30 minutes and given an arrival date and it was shipped priority mail USPS. We wouldn’t have known about this option if not for cheap internet giving their time freely for those of us who can’t afford BIG CABLE prices. Personally I think 4glte broad band is only going to get better in the near future with better coverage, and the fact that it is portable and not tied to a cord is a big plus. Thank you for all of the help you provide as we had very few options left to us.
Hey all I got an email from PCs For People advising a 15% off on everything Black Friday Sale.
Use this code just like this – blackfriday15
Using the Coupon:
Select the products you wish to purchase and enter the coupon code “blackfriday15” at checkout.
You can order online any time of the 24 hours in a day. Walk into store are possible – as Stores Open on Monday after Holiday weekend.
New and existing clients can come to any of our locations and purchase internet. Save on the cost of shipping by visiting an office near you.
New clients bring your proof of eligibility. http://www.pcsforpeople.com/recipients/eligibility
Some of the deals are as follows-
Existing Internet Customers:
3 Months – $40 = $34.00 – Save $6 – Good Value
6 Months – $75 = $63.75 – Save $11.25 – Better Value
12 Months- $120 = $102.00 – Save $18.00 – Best Value
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New Internet Customers:
PCs for People is offering high speed Unlimited LTE internet for as low as $8.5 per month. Plans are prepaid with no credit check or hidden fees.
Modem + 3 Months – $114.95 = $97.70 – Save $17.25 – Good Value
3 months of internet service at $11.33 per month and wireless modem.
Modem + 6 Months – $149.95 = $127.46 – Save $22.50 – Better Value – 6 months of internet service at $10.63 per month and wireless modem.
Modem + 12 Months – $194.95 = $165.71 – Save $29.25 – Best Value – 12 months of internet service at $8.5 per month and wireless modem.
All of this on this Unlimited on the Sprint LTE network !
Customization – Build your computer
Internet Packages Available
30 Day Return
90 Day Warranty
Free Shipping
Customization – Build your laptop
30 Day Return
90 Day Warranty
All specials are while supplies last and only valid for purchases on 11-25-16.
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I would say at least – start an account and place an order just short of paying for it on Black Friday, so it will possibly be honored later, that’s for anyone that don’t have one yet.
This is almost unreal 15% off discount on top of the rock bottom prices PCs For People already have – jump on it if you can.
You know I’m going to be ready for this next year, to bad I’m broke till the 1st. now…
Thank,
Steve
@CheapInternet.com Administrator and readers here,
A very happy Thanksgivings Day to you all, and as well for the remaining Holiday Season yet to come, may you find peace and love being close to your family members and enjoying theses times with them.
Of the two sites offered (Cheap Internet + Free Gov. Cell Phones), then with the information they contain, I’m receiving Phone service and Internet service for a cost to me of $10.00 monthly (which I pay annually).
I don’t know of any other sites which will indirectly offer news, topics and advise to their visitors in help and savings such as are found within these two sites without trying to be compensated directly in doing so.
I proudly offer the staff here and your sister site a three hardy and heart felt cheer of hip hip hooray to you…
Thank you very much and please do keep up your good works,
Steve
I’d like to correct my calling Casey Sorensen, Executive Director at PCs for People as a her / which could very well be a HIM.
Since I’ve not spoken to this person I know not which is correct.
Getting a hold of PCs for People is a concern as Linda K. has pointed out. I haven’t tried to do this except in my mentioned month to month in a half back email to Chris at Sales there.
Even though sick time and vacations are to be considered there at Headquarters in Saint Paul, someone should still be reachable there at PCs for People wouldn’t you think? I hope Linda K. does persist and then would let us all know of her experiences of not only getting a hold of someone but, then of her using the PC and Internet service.
Rest assured this is not a SCAM…
They are not a BBB affiliated business but, since 2008 have only gotten two complaints and one was when the change over from Clear service, “Unfortunately, since it is still in the early stages of a partnership, we have come across inconsistencies with how ****** is handling our customers and the help they are able to provide. We’ve learned that it is a training issue with ****** staff and are working with them to inform them how to best assist our customers.”
The other being of a customer “used an incorrect address and Sprint was unable to deliver. This resulted in the package being returned to Sprint, and Sprint hadn’t notified P4P of the trouble. Then the customer “disputed the payment for the modem through his bank. Since the payment had been disputed P4P no longer had the payment for the modem. When P4P spoke with the customer they informed him that P4P would happily send him a new modem but, he would need to contact his bank to let them know – he no longer intended to dispute the charge.” https://www.bbb.org/minnesota/business-reviews/computers-service-and-repair/pcs-for-people-in-saint-paul-mn-96350445
I haven’t tried to buy a PC but, only the modem and Internet service, so I believe this info. should hold true for any contact to P4P sales. Try Chris Grillo > sales@pcsforpeople.com first and allow a few days for a return reply.
You can always try Casey Sorensen, Executive Director (651) 354-2552 Monday – Friday 9 am – 5:30 pm, there at PCs for People and let her know of your troubles. Should you receive “phone just of recordings” as you stated, try key entering 0, 00, or something while they are running. These are Headquarters at Saint Paul, MN 55104-6316.
Your also free to contact the Denver branch and ask about your contact trouble at Minnesota, email denver@pcsforpeople.org or by phone @ 720-278-7725, Office Hours Mon. – Fri. 10 am – 5:30 pm. http://www.pcsforpeople.com/contact . There are other offices and number here as well. Try them all – you won’t be disappointed in the end product and services results and the saving…
Sometime back, I had sent Chris G. a question on something and have yet to receive an answer – which he may not of had one and/or working on it.
Chris G. had always been prompt in answering me before. Maybe something is wrong and he needed personal time. I know that P4P has a lot of volunteers based but, I think SALEs is not one you need to worry about. Then too if Chris is the only one that handles public contact and he is out for a spell, might be of concerns. He did state something to me of others in his office but, never said titles or names.
I don’t know how else to help you Linda K. but, to say it’s worth your while and do persist as I’m savings $500.+ my first year over the last Internet service I had…
Steve
Is this a scam? I’ve tried to find a way to contact someone to talk to about the internet service and purchasing a computer. No e-mail address or via phone just recordings. What do I do?
This is the first complaint we’ve heard about PCs for People. Nothing but raves from everyone else who’s tried it. Let’s see what Steve, our resident expert on PCs for People, has to say about this.
In a milestone ruling that will bring the US closer to Europe on the issue of online privacy, the FCC, by a vote of 3-2, has approved a bevy of new rules to protect users’ privacy. As a result, broadband behemoths such as Comcast and Verizon will be prohibited from collecting and disseminating (read: selling) information about users – such as the websites they’ve visited, and the apps they’ve used.
Additionally, broadband providers, according to the new regs, must obtain permission from subscribers to gather and give out data on their web browsing, location, and financial information. Neither will they be allowed to transmit health data, financial information, Social Security numbers, and the content of emails and other digital messages without the user’s okay.
Before you get too giddy, though, and without trying to diminish their importance, the sweeping rules don’t apply to the more avaricious online ad titans – including Google, Facebook, and other web companies. These are not subject to the new decrees, because the FCC does not have jurisdiction over web companies. This is a pity, as these are considered by many to be the most annoying ad abusers of consumers.
@Henry Hello,
Could it be something of the tower demand and the night and morning testing periods you did?
I’ve read on forums that the one bar really is not a good indication of your performance being delivered to you. That it could be as mine and drops off from registering frequently which is not steady and still being a good signal to do normal emails, web searches, etc.
Since we can’t use other than supplied Hotspots with this service it’s hard to test out others or even move the SIM to another device as a phone to know. You think Mobile Beacon has done something to these as they come to us activated already and PCs for People states- “”Unfortunately, Mobile Beacon’s activation process with Sprint does not currently allow users to supply their own device. We have asked that our users be allowed to purchase or utilize existing devices several times and we will provide updates if the current policy changes.””
There’s some good communities on the web for questions and answers with the focus on Sprint if you join and ask there anything from device to towers and in between. You might try different web browsers too. I’m trying out Slimjet from time to time.
Thanks for your input on your speed tests and anything else you come across.
Steve
@Steve
I just ran another speed test against the Franklin R850 hotspot just now and the download/upload speed is now <10/<3 Mbps which is an improvement from last night. Not sure why the readings would vary like that. Calm weather here for both days. I also saw the device register three bars for about a minute and then drop back to one bar. Seems to waver intermittently. Quite odd because I do not experience that with other hotspots.
@Steve
I ran a speed test to compare the upload and download on the hotspots. The previous two hotspots recorded speeds of >18/>17 and >10/>2 for download/upload speeds in MB/Sec. Pinging the same server, the Franklin Hotspot recorded speeds of >5/<1
When going to the pcsforpeople store front webpages, the loading time to refresh a webpage by the Franklin hotspot is slower. Most likely because I only get one bar signal strength on the hotspot. The others show three to four bars. All are in the same vicinity area from my computer.
@Steve
I started connecting with the new hotspot and so far, I get only one bar signal strength. I normally get two, three, or four bars with my other device (one that is also using Sprint service). Both hotspots are close to one another and the detected signal strength is different. I wonder if there is a problem with the hotspot. Boost Mobile is also offering this same model for their service. I moved it around the house and would see two bars near the window, but it never stays at two bars. When I put it outside, it does to three bars, but then it exposes it to outside elements. Back last year, the router that I used for Clear service (which was taken over by Sprint) always had two, three, an sometimes four dots to show strength. I also noticed that the reception to my computer drops the further away the hotspot is located. When I place it next to the computer, the reception improves to four to five bars on the network diagram.
I am going to run some speed tests to compare it against the other hotspots that I have and to see if the download/upload speeds are similar or not. I am not a computer gamer or video streamer, so as long as I get reasonable speeds (at least better than dialup), the low monthly cost plan is still worth keeping.
@Henry – Greetings
You’ve stated “Signal strength in my house is often between two and three bars.”
So that of ports for external antennas may not have been that beneficial to you. I was told near a window is better, which in my case is where mine is but, having the older heavy metal awning doesn’t help me much and only offers some improvements.
Should the need arise or your wanting to experiment with other options – the MSL Code (Master Subsidy Lock code) to unlock your hotspot device, which is only obtainable through Sprint (see my earlier comment for the phone number I was given). Although I haven’t called yet myself, I believe that Sprint will want your phone number of your hotspot device (yes for some reason it has a phone number – probably being on a cell network, even though for data only), which is seen from the Mobile Hotspot Manager – (Browser Interface) under “My Account>My Number” somewhere there, that the literature in the hotspot package tells you how to get to and use this feature.
May be some food for thought then, as I understand from my reading that Sprint uses three signals or radio bands B25, B26 and B41, and without unlocking the hotspot you can’t choose which one is being delivered to you specifically. I’m not even sure if all are offered in that of – all of the covered Sprint national network service areas – again something that’s needed to know within your area and going in this direction.
My comment about the other network and plan I was on, was just an experimentation to justify the expense and if truly I was unlimited on the tier they claimed. So seeing 100-300GB’s use to try and see was truly excessive for me and required me using it needlessly for this experiment. How else could I see meaning from the claims.
I respect my fair usage on Sprint and average 15-20 GB’s a month, and it’s really only what I need or require from it.
@CheapInternet.com Administrator, Hello
I’d be interested in these findings and especially of the antennas used for OTA – On the Antenna local TV networks reception.
Just as in my experiences with cell networks here at my home the same weak signals are experienced with over the air networks, some channels liken to a slow strobe lights actions and others with intervals of pixilation.
I’ve read that the old rabbit-ears still works for some people in the digital format being used now and even some claiming that stripping a coaxial cable outside housing some 5-6 foot is all they needed to do.
I don’t know if these are hoaxes as in some home-made DIY antennas information’s out there. The antenna I have now I is amplified with rabbit-ears style, and I’ve cut the ends off and looped an old car antenna between each cut off end, then used aluminum foil to cover the radius of that loop, it helps for the most part on stronger channels.
When is an amplified antenna really needed?
On the subject of PCs for People and with the up coming Dec. 1st. changes to the Lifeline program in the adoption of broadband in to the program. Have you reached out to PCs for People and gotten their views and comments, if they are thinking of heading into the Lifeline Broadband realm. Obtaining a Lifeline Broadband Provider (LBP) Designation? Service providers that will provide only Lifeline-supported broadband service, and not Lifeline-supported voice service, are called Lifeline Broadband Providers (LBPs).
LBPs are a type of ETC and must seek their designation through the FCC. LBPs may be designated across multiple states through a single application process.
With PCs for People as an eligible ETC, then people who benefit from the Lifeline program could apply those discounted benefits to the PCs for People Internet service possibly bypassing the up front costs in the yearly saving pricing and enroll that way, and the only expense to them would be for the Hotspot device. All this with guaranteed government money to P4P as long as they are eligible by the means designated by FCC and us users by the Lifeline programs requirements to have only one Lifelines benefit applied how ever we choose to use it and being eligible as the program requires.
Thank you in advance for your thoughts and comments,
Steve
@Steve
I did find some online pissed consumer complaints about the outage last August. Some still are having problems. Since it is not relevant to this company topic, I will let it pass.
On the order form webpage, the Netgear Fuse hotspot was only available for people in MN. All others were relegated to the Franklin hotspot. The Novatel MiFI 500 device was no longer offered.
Signal strength in my house is often between two and three bars. I occasionally even have gotten four bars if moved the device to different parts of the house. The only time that I get one bar is during a storm which obstructs the signal from the tower. According to the Sprint coverage map, I am in an excellent reception area for 4G LTE.
100 to 300GB per month? Not even close for me. I do not watch TV or movies on a computer or phone. It might be convenient during road trips in a car or camping, but I usually just watch the free TV OTA. None of that DVR, Vudu, Netflix, etc.
We’re going to assume that OTA means Over the Air or Off the Antenna. That’s an option that more and more people are turning to, including FreeGovernmentCellPhones.net’s Administrator, who just made the move back to an antenna this week. We’ll be updating our readers on his experiences being off cable.
@Henry,
Hi – not to ignore your question about ‘T” network, but my other response was long. We really should focus on Sprint here from PCs for People. Agree 🙂
Anyways you can look at – Steve says – September 17, 2016 at 9:32 am @Rae, to get an ideal somewhat of the account I had. I got tired of the uncarriers extremely weak signal to my home where I spend 97% of my time and 70% of that online.
As to the troubles you spoke of in August I’m not aware of or now concerned – the uncarrier has done some good things and then some not so well on top of that, as it tries hard to be everyone’s connection to the mobile internet. I will say the plan I was able to get was unlimited and of a contractors grade not to be slowed in anyway as I understood every GB was paid for already as such in a pool or a tier 1 level plan. I still saw slower than usual network responses in peak times on my always weak signal already. I used 100-300 GB’s a month while I was on this plan in testing how much I could use, first few months went well then something happened and the reseller wasn’t any help and suggested more equipment to get from the service what I had already seen and no guarantees to me except to return it for a refund if it didn’t help.
So I went looking and found forums mentioning Sprint accounts with associations like that of Home Depot business accounts and Insurance companies and that of other business in offering unlimited internet from a Sprint reseller for as low as $50.00 Monthly for a two year contract. Then I stumbled upon PC’s for People and haven’t look back and in my current financial situation to remain the same I’m with them for my life.
Now I’m saving more money and have what’s still referred to as unlimited usage and NOT in the terms of not being capped and then slowed to a crawl for the remainder of a billings cycle.
(QOS and NM practices after 23GB’s is understandable and accepted by me)
Then the signal reception I receive and the speed remains constant for the one bar – in rare times two bars I have seen, and still much better than the last few months with one bar on the T network account I had.
Henry you might google what happened to “T” in August or search the forum for one called Howard and look there in T topics.
@Henry
Well welcome anyway, it’s nice to have your input here as well, as you’ll be experiencing the PCs for People company and it’s Sprint internet service, hopefully sharing your views with all of us.
Please remember, as a non-profit PCs for People relies heavily on it’s volunteers, some of which couldn’t work anywhere else to get the training their receiving from P4P and then maybe be able to move on into a paid position there or somewhere else.
That’s not saying for you to expect this on your ordering from P4P and as I believe the training is related to the reconditioning and recycling of PC’s and the other services they offer to the business world to help sustain the supply of PC’s and aid in their overhead.
I would like to see PCs for People to grow and expand out and directly to cover 2-4 State regions in the other services they offer keeping our landfills freer from older technology hardwares.
I was able through email contacts to sales prior to my purchase to obtain a Fuse Hotspot (I understood supplies were very limited), which the MiFi 500 Hotspot was shown on my ordering page and I cancelled this transaction. I was concerned about my signal delivery here which I’ve experienced poor reception from others networks and wanted this Fuse model Hotspot – as it has the external antenna ports should I need to use them for my signals improvement.
The Franklin R850 Hotspot is the latest model from Sprint and I think it was being offered too when I ordered but, it didn’t show in my ordering page and then I didn’t understand it to have the antenna ports and I’ve read for a cell signals boost to devices without external antenna ports, (using such as a Wilson weBoost) costing hundreds of dollars and in defeating my 1st years saving significantly.
I reached out to P4P sales and asked to be able to have my MSL Code, which I understood from other forums can be used to unlock the Hotspot device to get another one of the signals from the Sprints network towers to maybe help in that of a stronger signal for reception being received, otherwise your unable to do this as the hotspot is on autopilot, as to say in determining this for you, which may not be the strongest to your area.
Below are my notes from answers I received from P4P sales and hope them to help in any questions you or others may have.
Notes from my contact to P4P sales:
1st. The term date is started three business days after the device has been sent. The device will be active when it arrives.
You are a PCs for People customer. Therefore, you won’t work with Sprint or Mobile Beacon directly.
2nd. Side Note: Does PCs for People have direct dealings with Sprint as I need or want to get my MSL Code (Master Subsidy Lock code), this code will unlock my device, and Sprint my wireless provider keeps the code on file. I believe each code is special to each device and it’s only obtainable through Sprint.
***The MSL code is needed in case I need to reset the device in the future to factory settings.***
The Netgear Fuse hotspot device requires it for entering those field of the “Mobile Hotspot Manager” (Browser Interface) at http://myhotspot/ , which is really the functioning part of the Fuse Hotspot as any settings and changes made are only to be accessed there from that UI.
3rd. This is how everything is setup… Mobile Beacon owns the rights to a certain frequency that Sprint wants to use. In order the use the frequency that MB owns, Sprint has to provide a low-cost internet service to eligible low-income people. Sprint agreed, and then Mobile Beacon works with PCs for People to work directly with the recipients and provide them troubleshooting support. For support, you contact us first. If there is something that we cannot handle or do, we contact Sprint directly to figure out the issue.
4th. “The warranty starts from the date Sprint activates a device on behalf PCs for People, not when the device is received by the end user.” — A device is activated the day you purchased the device. Therefore, the warranty would start that day. Not the day it was shipped to PCs for People.
5th. I looked into the MSL codes. We do not have any here, nor have been made aware of any by Sprint. You are welcome to contact them at 1-877-236-8008. You can call that number for any other technical support as well.
You can always look back to my earlier comments here for more information as well.
Thanks, Steve
@Steve
Thanks for the clarification regarding throttling and network management used by Sprint. Other carriers most likely do similar actions on their network.
I remember when there were multitude OS and PCs that could not “talk” to one another. Then those IBM commercials with the Charlie Chaplin character somehow became the de facto standard for PC manufacturers (with the exception of Apple). It would have been nice to have become like Bill Gates back then.
The PCs for People Sprint Internet order was just approved and being set up for shipping. The Hotspot is the Franklin R850 model (only choice available). Cannot say about the service since I have not gotten anything yet. As for savings from previous service, it is significant (over 75%). And I am not a “heavy user” (none of that streaming video stuff).
You mention about the “T” network. Was there some kind of change done on that network back in August? I ask because someone that I know who is a subscriber on that network reported an inability to get online after the SIM cards were rejected in late August. He is a subscriber through a third party company (not directly with the “T” network). The outage lasted for over a month for the people who subscribed through the third party company. I am sure it left many irate customers.
All the way at the bottom is this about Sprint and it’s resellers and MVNOs. You’ll see PCs for People is CLEARLY called out for low income Americans and the best deal they’ll find anywhere.
History:
In June 2015, Sprint eliminated their ‘Fairness Algorithm, stating all usage is un-throttled, regardless of how much data you may have used the prior month. However, in October 2015, they rescinded this and implemented de-prioritization at 23GB. Starting October 30, unlimited data plans include 3GB of high speed tethering, and then unlimited 2G speeds after that. In August 2016, they replaced their unlimited data plan with Unlimited Freedom.
Sprint has a lot of resellers and MVNOs, and deals come and go all of the time.
Prepaid & Alternate Options:
◾Unlimitedville: Offers a rental unlimited data only plan for $100/month, that is not subject to throttling.
◾Boost Mobile: In February 2016, this reseller added mobile hotspot usage to all of their smartphone plans. Their unlimited smartphone plan includes 8GB/month of hotspot usage and is subject to network management after 23GB of usage a month.
◾Calyx Institute: This non-profit focused on internet privacy includes access to their unlimited Sprint 4G/LTE based plans to their Contributing Members, priced at $400/year (first year $500, which includes a mobile hotspot).
◾PCs for People: This non-profit focused on providing technology for low income households offers an unlimited Sprint 4G/LTE based plans for $10/month for those who meet the qualifications.
◾TPO Mobile: Sprint reseller offers their Infinity plan that is advertised as unlimited, however over the first 50GB is at full high speed. And there is no mobile hotspot use included.
Steve
@Henry
Are you enjoying PCs for People Sprint Internet ?
If you are, welcome aboard.
How’s the service and which Hotspot did you get and what kind of yearly savings over your last service do you expect to see.
I know I am and it gets the job done better than the “T” network, as in the same location of mine, which is either on the edge of the network coverage or the somewhat deadspot area I live. I don’t know which it is, I just know it’s a better network delivery to me and way better pricing…
Something’s you’ve said of-
-I got into computers when punched cards were the way to input data before there was an internet.
I’ve been there and done that too and even the 9 track mag tape was used in my service days to send and receive data as well as card decks. All before the internet and personal computers…
Wished I’d stayed with it then but, who’d of thought then you be able to carry an even more powerful one in your pocket.
AND
-Many of the mobile carriers besides Sprint can “throttle” your throughput speeds when you have used up a certain amount of data. For Sprint, they specify 23GB for their users.
First being “”THROTTED”” was addressed and covered in the-
The FCC NET NEUTRALITY -[ but it appears it couldn’t address this topic any more that it has because – Spectrum, or the amount of Bandwidth available for the carriers to deliver, is a limited resource that they do need to manage.] https://www.fcc.gov/consumers/guides/open-internet
◾Throttling: Broadband providers may not deliberately target some lawful internet traffic to be delivered to users more slowly than other traffic. The new rules apply to both fixed and mobile broadband service to protect your internet access.
FCC rules require broadband providers to be transparent about the services they offer and to provide sufficient information to empower you to make informed choices – including choices about speed, price, and network management practices.
And then Sprint seems to be open about it’s following these rules (and not throttling) and with it’s information below about Network Management (see link for thoroughly all of it) – and is it just working within these rules to be compliant and still to offer it’s network to all of it’s customers — still annoyingly — to your data, because this decision is about the amount of data, and not what you’re downloading.
https://www.sprint.com/legal/open_internet_information.html?ECID=vanity:networkmanagement
page.
Allocating Resources During Times of Congestion: Despite its best efforts to prevent congestion through managing tonnage and directing customers to the best available network resources, the demand on a particular network sector sometimes temporarily exceeds the ability of that sector to meet the demand. During these times, Sprint relies on the radio scheduling software provided by Sprint’s hardware vendors to allocate resources to users. This radio scheduling software includes a set of generic fairness algorithms that allocate resources based on signal quality, number of users, and other metrics. These algorithms are active at all times, whether or not the cell is congested; however, during times of congestion, the algorithms operate with the goal of ensuring that no single user is deprived of access to the network.
Real-Time Traffic Management System (RTTMS): Another tool Sprint has deployed to help improve the customer experience for the majority of customers during times and places where network resources are constrained is Sprint’s RTTMS. When a Sprint site is resource constrained, RTTMS works to identify the users consuming the most site resources, and reallocates a portion of the resources serving the data intensive users to other users engaged in less resource intensive activities. When RTTMS is activated on a resource constrained site, customers engaged in data intensive applications may experience reduced performance until the site becomes unconstrained or the user moves to a non-resource constrained site. Users of the resource-constrained site that are not engaged in data intensive actives should expect a better experience than they would have on the site if RTTMS not activated. Sprint’s RTTMS is user, content, application, and device agnostic and is intended to provide an improved experience for the majority of users when resources are constrained.
How does congestion management impact me and my data services?
The goal of congestion management is to ensure that all users during times of congestion have access to a fair share of the network resources and that no user is starved of resources.
When congestion occasionally occurs, customers may experience reduced throughput or speed compared to their normal experience on non-congested (network) sites.
Throttling: Is when a carrier *always* slows down speeds for the rest of the billing period after a certain amount of data usage.
Network Management: Is when a carrier reserves the right to de-prioritize the traffic of high bandwidth users on unlimited data plans. They generally have a target data amount (20-26GB of usage in a month), and after that is exceeded, if the customer is on a cellular tower that is experiencing congestion – their usage might be slowed down. But once the tower is no longer congested, full speeds resume.
Which Network Management is exactly what Sprint does on the PCs For People internet plan. Not Throttling…
For those of you griping about the Sprint network management policy and “quality of service practices” that users are placed under, note that the current Spring mobile hotspot monthly costs are $115 for 30 GB. The hotspot is free if you go for the 2 year contract. The contract monthly costs “subsidizes” the cost of your hotspot (just like for smart phones). Regular customers are also subject to the same policies as those through other third parties. You can always sign up with the cable, satellite, or fiber optic companies that have reduced cost plans that do not limit your data use. Most of them, however, require that you have a child on the free school lunch program.
If you want “no holds barred” internet service, then plenty of available plans offered by cable, satellite, and fiber optic companies. But you have to fork over at least $100 per month (non-promotional rates). Heavy duty users cannot pay monthly dirt cheap rates at this day and age. The now obsolete dial-up internet services were completely free (advertisers covered your use), but that model sunk right along with the dot com bust in 2000. Plenty of dial-up providers offer 56K baud rates at $10 a month. For heavy duty users, it will take many days and weeks before the movies finally download. S-L-O-W
Everybody wants to have their cake and eat it too.
I came across this forum searching for cheap internet service. Near the end of 2015, there were several providers of Sprint WIMAX service which was unlimited data (such as Clear Communications, Freedom Pop, and Karma) for a “reasonable” monthly cost (usually $35 to $50). However, WIMAX network was shut down and the new offering of LTE service brought on users who gobbled up large amounts of GB per month. Many of the mobile carriers besides Sprint can “throttle” your throughput speeds when you have used up a certain amount of data. For Sprint, they specify 23GB for their users. Large numbers of users were exceeding what was considered normal usage, so the unlimited data plans got eliminated. Now, these companies only offer data package plans and you have to purchase extra GB amounts if you go over.
A lot of people have made their smart phones and computers to be like a video library. The devices are becoming more like an entertainment device rather than an educational or information/reference device. It is mostly commerce driven now. I got into computers when punched cards were the way to input data before there was an internet. Unfortunately, now those who are offline are at a disadvantage. Before the 1990s, this was not the case.
Kudos to PCs for People to help in providing those needy people from being further disadvantaged.
We agree, Henry. We absolutely lost it a couple weeks ago when one reader complained that his service provider wasn’t offering enough data. He was using 800 gigs per month. He admitted that he downloads two Netflix films per day. Like you said, these plans are meant for the truly needy, not those who want a luxury service.
I couldn’t have said it any better and made the points you have made, then been as patient to any more abuse continuing on further.
Respect is given as it’s deserved, and respect deserved after a point of which it’s been given has to be earned…
Besides they really need to strike up a conversation with the Service Providers and not you when it gets technical or beyond a basic knowledge to understand something – if even to argue a point they think is legitimate…
It’s like saying I get SSI of $730.00 a month but, I can spend 5x that amount – so I should get more. The fact that I need more entitles me to more, and so what if others will go without because in the 5x of use to fulfill my needs!
If you’d imagine a Cell’s Network Tower supplying a neighborhood like a water main supplying that same neighborhood, if your constantly drawing the supply of resources and more people as you are doing this to, the whole receiving neighborhood suffers and stinks.
Then who said it was PCs For People that set the 23G’s limit, in everything I’ve read it was Sprint. Remembering the PCs For People Internet service is filling a gap to low-income Americans through a deal with Mobile Beacon, who’s initial deal is with Sprint to allow all of this.
http://www.mobilebeacon.org/faqs/
Is there a limit on the data usage with any of your 4G LTE service plans?
No, Sprint is providing Mobile Beacon’s users with an unlimited 4G LTE data-only plan subject to Sprint’s network management policy for the unlimited LTE plan it offers its own retail customers. There are no preset data caps or overage charges.*
* Sprint’s “Quality of Service” Practices (QoS): Unlimited customers who use more than 23 GB of data during a billing cycle will be deprioritized during times and places where the Sprint network is constrained.
https://www.sprint.com/legal/open_internet_information.html?ECID=vanity:networkmanagement
Why does Sprint manage its network?
Sprint manages its network with the goal of delivering the best possible mobile broadband Internet access experience to its customers. Mobile network resources are not infinite. Managing the network is essential to promote the use and enjoyment of mobile data by our customers.
By engaging in reasonable and responsible network management, Sprint can deliver the best possible mobile broadband Internet access experience to its customers.
Quality of Service (QoS): To help protect against the possibility that unlimited data plan customers that use high volumes of data may occupy an unreasonable share of network resources, Sprint employs network prioritization or QoS on the Sprint network.
Performance will return to normal as soon as the resource constraints have been relieved or the customer has relocated to a non-constrained location.
The nerve of some peoples kids. Yes it’s really the parents fault in their kids up-bringing, to that of the adults they become from their childhoods.
One can’t expect a champagne diet on a root beer budget…
Can they, and if their usage is that much – maybe they should stay
HARDWIRED and expect way more than a $10.- a month Bill.
I have one time in 6 months gone over 20G’s in a month and I’m on the Internet every day. Doing all normal stuff, except watching movies and web TV all day and all night long and then playing online games in between, downloading torrents, etc. . .
You’d be hard pressed to even find any mobile Internet service of a (1) gigabyte and (then it being capped or reduced speed at that) – offered at only $12.50 a month. (5) gigabyte’s (would still be capped and reduced in speed after) and run around $35. to $40. a month.
$10. a month ($120.00) for a year for Unlimited QoS Sprint Data is more than fair to low-income Americans in need of Internet…
Steve
PS: CheapInternet.com Administrator – someday will we have a “LIKE” buttom beside Reply one, as I would of used it only “Ha Ha”
I watch on average 2 full HD movies a day, lots of video calls on Skype and of course YouTube. And do not forget some 4k content available up there already. You are doing excellent job helping people in need, but corporate greed and impotent FCC leaving us helpless….
Jeez. What makes you think that corporate America should provide you with unlimited internet for $10. PCs for People isn’t even “corporate” America. It’s some good people who work their asses off to bring a great Internet product to people who couldn’t otherwise afford it.
As you can see below, Netflix says HD video eats up 3 GB per hour: “Watching movies or TV shows on Netflix uses about 1 GB of data per hour for each stream of standard definition video, and up to 3 GB per hour for each stream of HD video.”
Let’s do the math, Ashot. We’ll be generous and say each movie is two hours long. Two movies a day means four hours. Four hours x 3 GB per hour = 12 gigs a day. Multiply that by 30 days per month and you get 360 gigs per month. That’s less than half of what you claim to use. On top of that, we simply don’t believe that you watch two movies every day of the month. Even if you did, there’s no way for you to eat up another 360 gigs a month. There just aren’t enough hours in a day.
Go away. We’re not going to publish any of future comments you may leave. We’re here to help people who need it, not to debate with people like you.
Dear Administrator with all the respect believe me I know what is 23GB is, and it is virtually nothing…. My monthly usage is between. 800-900 GB. Right now I’m using Charter,s unlimited service for $60 a month which is too expensive for me,because I,m disabled right now. So this PC for all company should never do the 23 GB gimmick otherwise it sound like big scam….
If you truly use 800-900 gigs per month, your usage is freakishly high. Virtually no one eats up that much data. The only way you can possibly use that much data is to sit around all day downloading movies from Netflix.
That’s not what these programs were designed for. They are basic programs intended to help kids do their homework, and to help adults find jobs and keep in touch with medical professionals. You know, the basics.
Since you seem to think that the PCs for People program is inadequate, what more could they do for you? Provide you with popcorn, bonbons and large Cokes while you sit on your fat ass watching Guardians of the Galaxy and Fast & Furious 23 all day?
We Googled “What can I do with 250 gigs” and this is one of the answers we came up with.
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It can be difficult to put a gigabyte — let alone 250 gigabytes — into actual usage context. Here are some examples of how different ISPs describe 250 GB of data usage:
Send 50 million plain text e-mails (at 5KB/e-mail)
Download 62,500 songs (at 4 MB/song)
Download 125 standard-definition movies (at 2 GB/movie)
Upload 25,000 hi-resolution digital photos (at 10 MB/photo)
(Source: Comcast)
Download 50,000 songs
Download 570 (1 hour) TV shows
Download 285 standard-definition movies
Download 25 high-definition movies.
(Source: Bell Aliant)
Download one high-definition movie (approx 8 GB) every day for 30 days
What a scam !!!—Unlimited customers who use more than 23 GB of data during a billing cycle will be deprioritized during times and places where the Sprint network is constrained.
Nothing excoting about this program. You will reach 23Gb in a matter of 2 days !!!
We don’t think you understand how much 23 gigs is, Ashot. It’s a huge number that allows you to do virtually anything online.
For those of you who do not know what Ashot is talking about, here’s a condition outlined on PCs for People’s website: “Unlimited customers who use more than 23 GB of data during a billing cycle will be deprioritized during times and places where the Sprint network is constrained.” In other words, after you use 23 gigs of data per month, your speeds may (not for sure, but “may”) be reduced.
We looked up what could be done with just 10 gigs. It’s staggering.
Email: Send or receive 204,800 text-only emails (1 text-only email = 50kb)
Web surfing: Nearly 70 hours of web surfing – General surfing only – no videos (2.5MB per minute = 150MB per hour)
YouTube: 270 x 5 minute 720p video clips (5 mins of YouTube = 37.5MB at 720p)
Internet TV: Nearly 20 hours of TV on Xbox 360)
Skype: 510 hours of voice calls OR 65 hours of camera calls
And that’s what you can do with just 10 hours. PCs for People offers 2.3 times as much. It would be hard to use that many gigs in a month.
So good to hear that you’re enjoying PCs For People.
I’ve use the service and Hotspot for around 6 months now and it’s the same now as that of 6 weeks. Just letting you know what you can expect is the your experiencing right now.
Just before I was with a company that offered only to business customers, and at one time long ago I had applied for my EIN with IRS for a Sole Proprietor status – needless to say the business never got started, but I did have my Employer Identification Number (EIN).
I was using mobile Internet (data sim-cell networks), same principles as PCs For People, though with a T reseller company and not on the Sprint network. Using that DATA SIM in my smartphone to tether the Mobile Internet to my home desktop PC. A smartphone or mine was not made for this in a constant use state as my battery got very hot at times (I guess from poor signals), and this was a quality brand I had in so much caused my battery to swell even though it still works.
Bottom line here, after switching over to PCs For People my Hotspot never gets anything but warn – if I can even call it that.
I’ll save in my 1st year $580.00 over the T reseller and in the 2nd and sequential years a savings of $660.00, this does reflects the $780. T reseller yearly costs to me, and my 1st year equipment cost with PCs For People and that of the only charge thereafter in the Sprint Mobile Internet service. Very happy I can now put this money to better usage.
Thank, Steve
PS: Let’s hear more success stories and mega savings experienced.
Thank you for this article! I am a senior citizen on a VERY fixed income .I decided to go for it and bought the hotspot and 1 year’s service. I have been using PCs for People service for about 6 weeks now and it is wonderful. The “process” of obtaining the service was painless and the people I communicated with were pleasant and informative.Set up was simple. And the price!!!! I cannot say enough about this company. Thanks again for bringing it to my attention.
Hi,
Q.- How do we connect the modem to the internet?
A.- Wireless as the modem is a hotspot device used on the
Sprint’s Network, with a data SIM installed. This is mobile
and is closely like that of cell phones method used except
for data only, no calls. No hardwire connection and unlike
a hardwired modem you can connect outside of the home as well.
[Key fact here is you must be within the Sprint network coverage]
For only one desktop or laptop a simple way to connect the
modem hotspot is with the supplied USB cable/charging cord.
More than one connection after this (USB method) the device
must be Wi-Fi capable up to 10 in count may be used.
Time for you to do a little Googling, Alicia. Try searching for the make and model of your router plus the words “user manual.” When you find the correct user manual, which should be an easy task, search for the answer to your question in that manual.
I’d guess by your comment the household your apart of would qualify by the 200% of federal poverty guidelines, since it’s not receiving any Government assistance, (as you’ve stated).
Household Size pertaining to being below the 200% FGL that PCs For People would require in your households case.
1-$23,760, 2-32,040, 3-40,320, 4- 48,600, 5-56,880.
Heather, you’ve also said – “disorders kept me from working for a few yrs now”, have you / yourself looked into SSI or SSDI, and doing so may help with your feeling of “it makes me feel awful not being able to help” as it could be an aid to yourself and child. Dialing 211 from any phone could put in touch with your communities resources for help. Looking on your States website could help with information.
Your parents may not agree with this, and you need to establish the help that they may not always be able to give you and your child.
Good luck and I hope you enjoy PCs For People, as I have done for 5 months now. It’s really lived up to being a value to me after the first road bump of the initial expense.
oh my goodness , I’m SO glad I found this site! me and my 19 mt old daughter live with my elderly parents and each month after they pay rent, buy groceries, essentials & pay other bills they’re basically completely broke! it makes me feel awful not being able to help(bc of mental disorders that have kept me from working for a few yrs now)..I was looking into finding a cheaper internet bc the price they pay now is rediculous so it’s a blessing finding this! we don’t get any govt assistance because my parents don’t believe in it (which to me doesn’t make much sense since they wld def qualify and they deserve the help) but hopefully I can get them to do this!
Thank you so very much… I’ve been checking this website just waiting & hoping for a Internet provider to come along that didn’t have the eligibility requirement that we had to have a child. Once I can save enough money I can’t wait to sign up for your services. Again thank you ?
We’re big fans of the PCs for People program (wow, glad we wrote that instead of saying it because it would be quite a tongue twister) and we’re glad it can help you.
Yes I agree with you, that of the population these low-income
Internet programs are created for – deserve to be cut a little
slack. Then all answers given on your site should observe a 🙂
peaceful harmony to all, be free from hostility and prejudice,
and not of irrational, unreasonable, and inappropriate remarks.
Circumstances of any one fact to that of multiple factors
can lead ordinary people to encounter that of a temporary
or lasting situation to cause a low-income’s lifestyle.
More or less their already at one of the lowest periods in
their lives, witness to hurt and misfortune, feelings of a
lost state, not thinking clearly as a result of becoming
numb with a defeat that has lead to this phase in life.
Through one’s reaching out for answers here is a fact of
their seeking to self help, and it may very well be their
first steps taken in growing of a simple basic knowledge
to their preferment. The novice as opposed to an expert.
Not everyone understands a systematical way to finding
answers, what may be lucid to one may not be to another.
Keeping the focus on the question(s) at hand, should you
have a constructive answer to that of their question(s).
Leaving out any feeling in being that of a superior wit to
them, otherwise your personal delivery would be one of spite.
Your conscientious gift of grace will lead to good karma
indicative of regaining a worth to justify usefulness and
importance of ones life.
To give them a quality answer delivered with the acts of
kindness and tolerance is not only more pleasant to them
but, also being considerate to the reading community here.
Hey, c’mon, frustrated C. Cut Debbie a little slack. (But to tell the truth, you’ve only said what we think about a thousand times a day as we’re moderating the comments left by our readers.)
We are unable to track service availability down to the zip code level, Debbie. You’ll need to contact each of the Low-Income Internet service providers to find out which ones serve your area.
We are unable to track the various programs down to the zip code level, Paula. But if you look at the list of low-income service providers, you may be able to figure it out. If not, contact customer service at your chosen company and ask if they service your address.
Steve says August 10, 2016 at 4:12 pm
@ Lynett Aug. 7, 2016 9:24AM
second Q- & A- to her and link supplied for “Answered information”.
ABOUT REFUNDS.
You could try the service going with 3 months and modem. If you get service you can be happy with from 1st couple days – I believe you can up remainder months to a full 12 months at anytime only totaling 12 for the year. At 3 months you pay a little more than $10.- each.
YOUR Prior conversation to PCs For People before purchase will be about testing reception at your home and can maybe lead to special arrangement on getting pricing and additional remainder months of and for the years pricing. UNDERSTAND
You should contact PCs For People to find out about 1st. month refund also – cause as I read and understand it says unused months, so you will lose 1 month of 3 months paid. To be sure this is right and who pays modems return shipping as well. IF REFUNDED.
-SORRY BUT-
Mobile Citizen- We provide broadband service to schools, nonprofits and social welfare agencies. We do not sell directly to individuals.
Mobile Beacon- Who We Help Nonprofits, Schools , Libraries.
You need PCs For People to go through for service here.
I helped as much as I can, the balls in your court…
You need to talk to these companies now as they can and will help understand and which one to choose 🙂
Things to consider now – your budget, and in no peculiar order.
Reception at your location, service term, equipment needed (if rental on it), total pricing in an annual cost(s).
I live in Irvine, Orange County California in the 92606 zip code and currently have cox for my internet. It’s about 38 a month and it killsme because I am underemployed oftentimes and even as almost full time employed , I only make 12 an hour . No kids and I probably make barely above the maximum for SNAP. Even when I was unemployed I didn’t qualify as it said I sm able bodied and would need to be working s certain number of hours to still qualify. Makes a lot of sense these crazy social rules. What gets me angry is the fact that I don’t have children or any that are eligible for free lunch and therefore I dont qualify. Like um getting punished for being a tesponsible person who chose to not have kids I couldn’t afford and yet there are fsmilies who get dirt cheap Internet at high speeds while I’m struggling badly.
Can someone give me an example of 200% below poverty line?
Sure, Sophie. The 2016 Federal Poverty Level Threshhold for a one-person household is $11,880. That means 200% of that amount would be $23,760. So if you make less than that amount per year, you should be eligible for the PCs for People program.
Thanks much on the impressive responses, Steve and CheapInternet.com Administrator!
Unfortunately, I’m located on the street where the weakest signal coverage area is (between grey and light purple color areas according to the links provided). May be it’s not a best idea to go with PCs For People for my case. However, Steve mentioned that his is fine with one bar.
Because of that, I looked into Mobile Beacon and Mobile Citizen, which they also go through Sprint network, and I cannot find the eligible zip code listed on their sites.
May I ask what other possible companies I could look into besides PCs For People? I think I should at least check out other possible internet providers (either hardwired or hot spot) before paying the 12-month service upfront and end up having weak signal at where I’m. Any thoughts to share?
PS: If there is a choice, do you prefer hotspot or hardwired to use at home considering they’re at similar cost?
Everyone has a different opinion on wireless vs hardwired, but we prefer wireless because we work on iPads. The next guy you ask could give you the opposite point of view.
You’re running out of options, PP. If none of the companies on our Low-Income Internet page work for you, we’re pretty much out of options.
Hi Terry,
Type your address or zip code in this form to check Sprint’s local
DATA coverage at your location. Be sure to use Data tab, not the Voice… http://coverage.sprint.com/IMPACT.jsp
Q. cheap & fast internet for 2 laptops.
A. PCs For People service is Mobile in nature through a 4G LTE Hotspot modem which is capable of supporting 10 wireless devices, 1 wired (via USB).
Of the offered and available hotspots – do read some reviews (users) hands on experiences and make your choice.
Fast Internet would be better understood by the Sprint tower(s) serving your area and network load as to their signal strength delivered.
Same here use your location to see towers and signal strength. http://www.deadcellzones.com/sprint.html http://www.sensorly.com/map/4G/US/USA/Sprint/lte_310sprint#q=Endicott%2C+NY+13760%2C+USA|coverage
Sprints average 4G LTE download speeds are between 6-8 Mbps, with peak speeds of 25 Mbps on Sprint 4G LTE and over 100 Mbps on Sprint LTE Plus.
PCs For People offered 4G LTE Sprint mobile hotspot modems speed tests between 12-40Mbps.
@PP August 15, 2016
Hi PP,
Yes – PCs For People Internet service is a Wireless Data Mobile Internet, same type of setup as cell phones uses except the SIM card inside the hotspot is DATA only SIM type.
This means no hardwired modems like that of regular WIRED internet methods such as cable, fiber optic or DSL. Instead of the signal coming through a wire, it is sent through the air.
Which is mobile (often more costly) than per wired gigabytes used. Since it’s unlimited and from PCs For People no worry of high costs (in fact lowest cost I’ve ever seen offered per month).
Reliable or carry weaker signal, if your homes power goes off, the hotspot (fully charged) will last for 10 hours and if you own a laptop and it’s charged, during a power outage you still have
internet usage. I have mostly one bar showing on my hotspot at all times, still I have opened up to 20 websites/pages and downloads still seem just as fast.
Signal strength mostly would depend on towers location to yours and the towers load at any given time of day. No this is not a super duper type of speed at my location and some Vid’s do buffer.
Hey I can live with that – saving multi-hundreds of dollars yearly. For less than $200.00 (start up and service for the year), where else can you go to suit the best value found here?
If you do own a laptop and get the PCs For People Internet and modem you can be mobile with it, anywhere you get a signal from Sprints towers, the park, beach, lake, mountains or in your backyard.
I would say find some online Sprint conversations/forums (FreedomPop – Howardforums) and ask your questions about speed, Skype and Magic Jack phone service through Sprint a network.
I liked Cheap Internet Admin. answer to higher costs after the first year, as it’s valid and seen in print on PCs For People site.
Do know if you don’t sign up and they (PCs For People) have to close enrollment as per their info. of
“”We will not be able to distribute unlimited $10 per month LTE on Sprint’s network indefinitely.
Due to limited bandwidth, selling indefinitely could degrade the service of Sprint’s direct customers.””
On the same topic I do see that if you get in and stay in by meeting the qualification requirements yearly, you’ll be able to save each and every year that their in existence.
Thanks and I hope I’ve been able to answer your questions Terry and PP,
Steve
Thank you Steve and PC Administrator. I travel between Lake Elsinore, CA and Parker, Az and would like to take the hotspot with me to avoid using data on my phone and noticed on the coverage map that there were a few out of network or roaming areas and just wanted to make sure I wouldn’t be unknowingly be racking up roaming charges. Again thank you for your help
Thanks much. I read all previous comments. How different it could be to have the internet service via a hotspot device in terms of speed, like when Skype-ing, streaming a movie? It would also work for having a Major Jack phone line, correct? (Hope someone can provide any insight as these are more technical and experience based.)
The provider may raise the price somewhat significantly after the 1-year service is up, which some corporations get you in for cheaper first. It is a concern. Thoughts?
We doubt that PCs for People will raise its prices after the first year. Unlike the other organizations offering low-cost Internet, PCs is a non-profit whose only goal is providing inexpensive Internet service for low-income Americans.
Can you please explain why the required “wireless modem” for PCs for People internet is actually a hotspot device? I looked at their site (and all other providers’ sites), and it appears that the $74.95 mandatory device is a hotspot device. Is their internet service basically provided via a hotspot device?
I’m a bit confused on why their internet service is provided via a hotspot rather than the regular internet method such as fiber optic and DSL, to which the earlier might not be as reliable or carry weaker signal. Sorry if I sound naive.
I’m in CA, and a single unemployed person who need fast and unlimited internet to look for jobs. Would PCs for People suit the best?
As for Israel question about – “If I use this mobile hotspot in a area that is in Data Roaming, will I be able to access the internet and will there be an extra charge?”
Short Answer: NO and NO
I would even add to your answer – one must be “in-network” (Sprint’s) to use the service “period”. As I find no mention of any Data Roaming on Mobile Beacon or PCs For People websites. I’d go as far to say, they offer no Roaming so you won’t see any additional charges.
To add – some answers that seem to relate to Israel’s question:
From your (above article) – Q&A email interview with May Sorensen, PCs for People’s Director of Finance and Business Administration.
I see the answer under “Mobile, cable or DSL? If mobile, what network do you run on. And, 3G or LTE or…?”
M. Sorensen answer – The service is mobile 4G LTE on Sprint’s network. Many of the client we provide service to have multiple housing arrangements over the course of a year. Having a mobile internet service and a laptop allow the families and individuals we service “*”to take their connection to the world with them wherever the road of life may lead (assuming there are Sprint towers).”*”
Q – …problem coming up with that kind of upfront payment…
M. Sorensen answer – We wanted to create a prepaid program where the client owns the device, pays as they go and
“*”there are no hidden fees or extra charges.”*”
Mobile Beacon: http://www.mobilebeacon.org/recommended-open-internet-disclosures-for-mb-resellers/
DISCLOSURES:
# 2. The Provider provides the Service over its wireless network, using cell sites and frequencies licensed by the FCC. The Service is not available in all locations and “*”you will only be able to access the Service when within the operating range of the Provider’s network”*”, which may change from time in the sole discretion of the Provider.
PCs For People: https://pcsrefurbished.com/transition/sprintTerms.pdf
Availability 5.a – The Service is not available in all locations and “*”you will only be able to access the Service when within the operating range of the Provider’s network”*”, which may change from time to time in the sole discretion of the Provider.
Are these the answers to Israel’s questions?
Thanks, Steve
Hi Israel,
Referring to Data Roaming, extra charge?
I use mine from a fixed location and haven’t had such concerns.
Questions like these should really be asked of PCsForPeople, https://pcsrefurbished.com/about/contact.aspx
I really wished I had an answer for you but, I only will answer in the scope of which I can find the answers to, and then will give a “link” to that of these answers. Please understand.
It’s at most a complex arrangement – as I seem to think, that PCsForPeople has undertaken to bring it’s customers this high value Internet offering at deep cost cuts for us. Since you will be paying them directly, I suggest you contact them and understand any answers to your questions you may have. Preferably also having seen it in writing somewhere by a link given, in an email response – kept for your records, all this will help you later if any issues should arise.
Although, I’ve never experienced any wrong doings or bad advice and nasty answers from PCsForPeople staff. They are great in my book…, have always been nice, friendly and responsive to my enquiries. Besides saving me $$$ as the end result. I see many Pro’s and not one Con.
PCsForPeople offers it’s Internet service by Sprint via Mobile Beacon, one or more of these could have in place exceptions that normal Sprint users would not have available to them.
Please Israel, be sure to post your findings to these your questions here on this thread.
Thanks, Steve
PS: CI Admin. I’m not an Expert but, will try and help when I can.
Thank you for your thoughts of me. Patients of my long answers.
This is a pretty complex issue, Israel. We had to ask our tech guru and he said, “I don’t know. But overall, I think you need to be “in-network” to be able to use the data without extra charge. The best answer is that since every company and network has their own rules, and this is an important issue since if the data is accessed improperly it could be mean huge charges, we can only suggest that he contact the PCs for People and ask directly. We don’t want to possibly give a wrong answer.”
Of course, Steve, our resident PCs for People expert, will probably come up with a far more detailed, far more accurate answer. Steve?
I like to help – just as you like to inform and keep the News coming to us! Thanks for your nice words and this wonderful site as well as your sister site freegovernmentcellphone . net !
A lot of people and myself have benefited from all you do in keeping these sites up and running as well as updated. (: 🙂
Q.- I wanted to know if you do not like the service, can you receive a refund for the modem and whatever money was prepaid for service?
A.- Modem Return Policy – Items must be returned within 7 days from the date the device is received.
Subscription Refund Policy – Internet subscriptions may be refunded for any unused months remaining on your current subscription term.
I am in need of a cheap internet service. I am unemployed and furthering my education. Also, I have children in the house that need internet service. I have read everything about this program. The program sounds great. I am sorry if I might have missed this answer in the article. I wanted to know if you do not like the service, can you receive a refund for the modem and whatever money was prepaid for service? I cannot afford to just give away money. Also, I do not see New Brunswick, NJ on your list above. Is this service available in New Brunswick, NJ? Thank you for your time in advance.
We are always amazed at the variety of questions we receive here at CheapInternet.com. This is the first time we’ve heard this one, Lynett.
You’ll need to call your service provider’s customer service team to get an informed answer to your question. It’s the kind of thing that only they would know because each company has different policies. But we will say that we think very highly of PCs for People and if any company is likely to offer you a refund, we’d bet it would be this one.
In answer to your second question, we are unable to track availability down to the neighborhood level. You’ll need to contact PCs for People’s customer service team to ask that question — before you enroll.
Iam trying to get the application form for the CentryLink Basic ‘s low income, disabled. I sent one in but the guy at CenturyLink said it was the wrong one. It went to the Apopka, FL office. He said it was supposed to be the.one in Colorado or some place like that. Can you please help me get the right application. For CenturyLink Basic’s
You left this comment on our PCs for People page, Jodie. And we feel compelled to tell you that we consider it to be a vastly superior program than Internet Basics. Take a closer look at PCs for People if Sprint’s cell network covers your area:
It is available everywhere the Sprint cell network is available. We are, however, unable to tell you where it is available on a city-by-city basis. Talk to the good folks at PCs for People or Sprint to find out if it’s available in your area.
I am 58, on SSI, and while I have a basic program with Time Warner, at almost $60 a month, it leaves me with little money for other things. If I could just go to internet only, I do have a smart TV, which is internet accessible, and could watch Netflix, etc. But I am in Zanesville, Ohio. Is it available here? If not, is there any program for me?
First – to CheapInternet.com Administrator (EDITED FOR LENGTH)
Second – to PCs for People / April 22, 2016 at 12:26 pm,
Thanks for your information offered about the Sprint service running your program. I found it most reassuring and helpful in understanding the differences completely. I also agree this is not a stripped-down version offered to that of poor (low-income) people but, the same service offered network wide and only difference being the price.
I would like to open up a discussion with you – to and for the people living on the edge of Sprint’s coverage or in fringe network areas.
I often have only one bar of service (seldom see two bars) and have read in other mediums that- “If there is no way to connect an external antenna to your device, you might consider a Wireless Amplifier/Repeater systems that boost cellular signal without needing a direct connection to your device.”
So my question is will Pcs for People in the coming future be able to offer Antenna’s or better yet, offer a low cost Wireless Amplifier/Repeater system, even that of a refurbished units would be helpful in a cost reduction as these units are expensive.
To help low-income people as myself to get the best signal possible and yes I live in a somewhat dead zone for all cell network signals as I had the same trouble with T-M here to, I lived here for 30 years and don’t plan to move.
Last thought to you would be to offer here a contact link to anyone reading this article, that would need help by any means of troubleshooting, connecting, questions answered. As we are not direct customers of Sprint and would help us greatly in giving us an understanding of where to reach out to in theses type situations.
I’m truly grateful to you and all there for helping me be digitally connected in this age where you just need it for many aspects of life.
Third – to Val / April 18, 2016 at 1:31 pm,
As a young teen earlier in my life, I often wondered why some people were as sweet as a new spring day and some were as salty as the ocean’s spray. (I’ll leave it there)… Except you truly do get more help from a sugar than a vinegar attitude.
I’m sure you have your reasons for such a comment but, you offer no proof – just complaints, not of any actions you’ve taken to get a better signal or reception and speed, so someone can help you. Really you don’t say much, except for waiting and cost in your comment.
It would be helpful to know as to anything’s you’ve tried in that of troubleshooting your PC setup like running as bare a system as is possible or that of trying different browsers in seeing if speed did increased to that of your connecting to the web.
Have you tried (since this is a mobile unit-Hotspot device) the Pcs for people / Sprint service comes from, like in trying that of a portable computer system such as a mobile phone or laptop/netbook, if these are within your research means, and then going to different locations and testing with these devices and what your experience are.
Maybe that of going to a close neighbor or relative’s house and seeing if the same experience is true with their PC’s computer systems in the connecting through your hotspot device and with that of the Sprint network.
I myself find in my own experiences it takes just as much energy of the body and mind to complain as it does to seek knowledge and solutions to troubles and problems in my life. Besides growing in the know and learning for the next time. Although complaining is faster but, far less gratifying to actual results.
My last thought to you (Val) is to consider the cost again, you said that “paying 75 for 6 months is not cheap”. A break down per month is only $12.50 for each month and it’s for Sprints 4G LTE unlimited service – there are no data caps, throttling to it.
You’d be hard pressed to find any service of 1 gigabyte capped offered at only $12.50 a month, not forgetting this is wireless (mobile) in nature which is always more costly than that of fixed (hard wired cable) service.
Val I’m not finding any facts of truth in your words – as limited as your statements were, also I’m not trying to hinder you in seeking help to your current situations.
Have you reached out to PCs for People, remembering that they are mostly a volunteer based group and any answers may or may not come as quickly as needed.
I would try them and give as much details to what you have experienced and tried to do in relief of it.
Well, Steve, you get the award for the longest comment ever left here at CheapInternet.com. We’ve read novels that were shorter. But you made a lot of very good points on a lot of different issues, so we thought we’d run all of it except for the introductory comment to the CheapInternet.com site administrator.
The 4G LTE service plan PCs for People offers is unlimited –there are no data caps, throttling or slow lane. The service is the same service Sprint offers their retail customers, but at a fraction of the price. Our average recipient is a family of three living on $12,000 per year, so we have worked to ensure the program is as affordable as possible. Under this program 12 months of Unlimited mobile internet is $120 ($10 per month). Directly with Sprint 12 months of capped (30 GB plan) internet would cost $1,320.
Perhaps you’re referring to Sprint’s Quality of Service (QoS)? QoS is not a slow lane for poor people, rather it is part of Sprint’s service for all customers. It does not automatically kick in after reaching a certain data allotment. With throttling, your speeds will automatically be reduced as soon as a certain data allotment is reached, regardless of network capacity. QoS only is triggered during periods of network congestion and is re-evaluated every nanosecond. With thousands of users we have never had a complaint as this is generally not noticeable for users. Lower bandwith users will not experience QoS, higher users may experience a temporary slowdown for a few seconds, a few minutes, a few hours, or not at all. And that will cease as soon as network resources are freed up (unlike throttling where you are stuck with lower speeds for the remainder of your billing cycle). QoS is also different from throttling in that your speeds are not dramatically reduced to, say, 156 Kpbs. With Sprint’s LTE service, even IF experiencing QoS, users may still see high download speeds.
PC’S for People internet is not low cost, paying 75 for 6 months is not cheap when you have to wait to get on the internet every time you use the computer wait waiting all the time. Its frustrating and stressful and time consuming, its not a help, It says you are poor so wait for what every one else gets in seconds…Crappy is what it is and on top of that they charge you for everything under the guises its for ‘poor people” Liars
Are there any low cost internet services available to low income (Lifeline) customers of Verizon (now Frontier phone & internet service) in California?
The service discussed in this article may be able to help you.
You might also check out FreeGovernmentCellPhones.net, our sister website. Click on the “States” link at the top of the page and then on “California.” Check out the service providers listed because some of them now offers smartphones and limited data plans that may satisfy your needs.
Good luck.
Thanks – Cheap Internet for a well covered article on the company PCs for People.
Who was the author of it? Liked to know, they did a good job.
They covered a lot of details of the program, and I only hope that many of your readers of all ages are keen to understand the opportunity offered to them within this fantastic company and their programs. Just wished there were more companies like it.
Thank you for going the distance to help us understand it and sharing your findings and conversation.
I ordered my internet online from PCs for People, had the device (hotspot) in three days, and I’m enjoying the service, device, and company thus far. No problems at all.
Hope you continue to bring us news and great articles to help make our digital worlds better, brighter, and connected.
Thank you 🙂 and God Bless
[…] for People's director of finance, May Sorenson, states that they do not expect to be able distribute an unlimited LTE data plan on Sprint's network […]
Sprint’s network (including partnerships with local and regional providers) offers 4G LTE coverage for 95% of the nation’s population.[/caption
rachel says
Can you recommend a hotspot device for just one device?
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
Readers? Any recommendations for Rachel?
Henry says
All of the Netgear, Alcatel, and Franklin hotspots work well with only one device connected to them. Signal and bandwidth strength depend on your location and building structure. If you live in a remote region of the country, no device will be able to pick up any signal no matter how good it is.
Henry says
PCs for People replaced the Franklin R850 hotspot with a Franklin T10 hotspot due to the Sprint network shutdown on June 30, 2022 and replacing it with T-Mobile service. The R850 device would often disconnect and switch channels when it was powered on. A weak signal and interference from other wireless devices may have caused this problem. The R850 also only used the 2.4 GHz Wi-Fi band which only has up to 11 available channels. The T10 model has both 2.4 and 5 GHz band access and the 5GHz band has much more channels to select from (45). There are fewer Wi-Fi devices using the 5GHz band in my area. I went into the T10 device menu and changed the settings to move over to 5 GHz and a higher channel setting from those in the 2.4 GHz band. My connection speed went from 72 Mbps to 433 Mbps. A six fold increase. I do not get any disconnections or channel switching occurrences. I went from downtown rush hour traffic experience to a rural open road on the information superhighway!
bj says
can you bring your own modem!?
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
Probably, but you need to confirm that with the PCs for People customer service team.
Henry says
Based on the FAQ page, you cannot use your own device. Also, each household can only have one hotspot registered to the service. If you need a replacement and are approved to buy one, the previous one is deactivated.
https://www.pcsforpeople.org/recipient-frequently-asked-questions/
Step Saffeels says
I’m very interested in obtaining a laptop and wireless flash drive. A friend in Mpls MN told me that he got all set up for $50 by pcsforpeople st Paul with wireless and free DELL laptop
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
Contact PCs for People directly using the contact info above.
Brenda Helgevold says
I have been fortunate to have discovered your company in 2018 and love it. It was discontinued last week and I instantly renewed on the 28th for another year. I use it to communicate with my doctor’s via telehealth and unfortunately I am still waiting on reactivation.
I’ve tried emailing but they keep extending the time frame.
I have already missed one telehealth appointment for my medication refills and am in dire need of them. The payment has been made as I stated and it’s been a lifesaver for me to use your internet as I haven’t had home internet before because of cost. If you could please look into what the holdup in reactivating is about I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you.
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
Unfortunately, Brenda, we are not PCs for People. This is an independent informational website. You will need to contact PCs for People using the contact info available in the article above.
letha osborne says
i need a pc low income
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
Here’s where you can find all the plans available. Check them out carefully to find the one that fits your needs best, then enroll in that plan using the contact info we provide:
https://www.cheapinternet.com/low-income-internet
Linda says
I have been with PCs for People for several years and I am so THANKFUL that I found this organization. They have given me the opportunity to save hundreds of dollars on my internet expense. This savings has given me more money in my budget for other things I need. I am on a fixed budget so every dollar I can save means a better quality of life. It was an easy process to get on the program with fast service to receive my modem. I have never had any technical problems and I run my laptop, smart tv and tablet from the same modem. I hope that I will continue to be able to have my internet service through this organization. I cannot afford $50 or more for monthly internet service. It may be hard for some people to come up with the money to buy the modem but when you do the math,you will realize the tremendous savings you will have with the low, low monthly internet fee. THANK YOU SO MUCH PCS FOR PEOPLE.!!!!
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
Off the top of our heads, we’d say that PCs for People probably gets better reviews than any other service provider. That’s not to say they’re perfect, but their customer satisfaction level seems to be very high.
Ken says
The PC’s For People website does not offer any way to sign up. All you get is Product Unavailable.
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
Go to the company’s contact page.
Henry says
It appears that the Internet subscription plans are not available at this time. You can send them an email at sales@pcsforpeople.org to get more information.
Henry says
On their website, an alert message is displayed which states the following:
Internet Devices – We are currently out of stock and will be updating this page when they become available.
That is the reason for the product being unavailable at this time.
Henry says
Update. The PCs for People website now has two hotspot devices to subscribe to their internet service. There is a Coolpad Surf and Netgear Zing device listed for $80. Internet cost is now $15 per month and up to $180 per year of service.
Henry says
Update. PCs for People website now lists three hotspot devices for sale at $80 or $100 each. Netgear Zing price went up and a Franklin R910 device was added.
Will B. says
On July 27, 2019, I made a complaint against PCs for People about the defective of the monitor and extremely slow internet from PCs for People bundle. (please read my 7/27/2019 comment.) I didn’t renew the internet and went with AT&T internet for low income. I am VERY HAPPY with AT&T internet speed. AT&T gave me a fiber optic internet for $10/mo (no tax & no fee). I am writing this complaint against PCs for People again because the PC hard drive itself went dead today (3/16/2020.) I bought this PC bundle for $399 on May 15, 2019. I charged it to my credit card and just paid it all off in February 2020. I’m totally upset that the PC is no longer useable because it was working for LESS THAN one year! I HIGHLY DON’T RECOMMEND ANYONE TO DO BUSINESS WITH PCs FOR PEOPLE.
Henry says
I checked the AT&T website and fiber internet costs $49.99/month. I do not see anything that shows $10/month. Is that some kind of special plan? By the way, hotspot wireless internet is always slower than fiber optic internet. A direct connection will always have better bandwidth than a connection that is completely over the air.
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
Contact AT&T customer service and ask about Access by AT&T.
Henry says
Thank you. I located the Access from ATT webpage and the cost of the plan depends on your location. It could be $10 per month. The other plans that I had seen were for the general public.
Henry says
On the PCs for People website, the internet service costs have increased to $15 per month. 3 months = $45, 6 months = $90, 12 months = $180
Debbie says
Sure wish you included west virginia. Lots of low income service does for some reason
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
Have you checked out all the low-income internet plans to find out if any of them cover your area? Here’s where you can find them all:
https://www.cheapinternet.com/low-income-internet
R.perry says
It seems like a good deal until you can’t watch movies or shows because it’s spinning and respinning all the time. Slower than a turtle. Junk.
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
We’re not here to defend PCs for People, but if you look through the comments below you’ll find very few complaints. Remember that these plans are intended to give people basic internet to help them get jobs, to help their kids in school, to help with doctors appointments. They were never intended to help people “watch movies or shows” or with gig-sucking things like online gaming.
Roger Hyler says
Need low cost internet to job search on snap working part-time less than 500 @ month
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
Check out all the low-income internet plans available to find the one that fits your needs best:
https://www.cheapinternet.com/low-income-internet
STEVEN P JONES says
I signed up for pcs for people mobile internet hotspot in december 2018. I paid for one year service in advance. Big Mistake! It was advertised as 4G LTE which worked OK for a few months. The problem is that if you use more data than they like, then they will blacklist your hotspot. So now they have blacklisted my hotspot and all I get for speeds is less than 1mb up or down. I have called them numerous times and they refuse to do anything about it. I called them a few minutes ago, and had to wait quite a while in the que. Then when the call seemed to go through, all I got from their end was a load static noise. I’m starting to think that they have even blacklisted my home phone because I have called them so many times. It’s possible that this their standard procedure in the way they handle people who won’t give up on trying to call them about the problem. I checked with the Better Business Bureau and they have a long list of complaints. Complaints about them are all over the Internet, so BUYER BEWARE.
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
What you call “blacklisting” is what’s called “throttling” in the internet business. Check the terms and conditions on PCs for People’s website. It should tell you how many high speed gigs you are entitled to before your speed is “throttled.” Sounds like you are a very heavy internet user. Correct?
Henry says
They do not “blacklist” the hotspot. They would throttle your SIM card ID account. Sprint has a disclaimer on their website that any service going over 23 GB a month is subject to lower speeds. This applies to all Sprint customers, not just those using the PCs for People service. Wireless services are subject to capacity issues, so if you want true unlimited access, go for cable, FIOS, or satellite connections, no wifi.
John says
PCs For People gets their internet through some other charity who gets it through Sprint and I don’t think they can do anything on there end about throttling. I normally go through atleast 200 gb a month and never have any problems. I have saved hundreds and hundreds of $ in the last year with this very nice program. I do wish I could pit my sim card in a bigger stronger device but mehh I’ll just get some wifi repeaters or something. Thanks PCs for people and thanks to this website for helping me find them.
Will B. says
I got a PC & internet (provided by Sprint.) from PCsforpeople. I would give 2-stars out of 5-stars overall. REASONS: I got a desktop with a monitor that I was barely be able to see anything on the screen. I had to be in totally darkness to see the screen but then I cannot easily see my keyboard. This monitor’s a nonadjustable screen to make it brighter (it’s gray out.) I paid $15 extra for this 22″ monitor JUNK. To ship it back, it’s NOT a cost effective. Luckily, one of my friends has an old monitor that’s a lot better than the one I got from this company. If I would have known, I would not paid $15 to upgrade to this 22″ screen. BUT, the worst part of the deal was the internet. I got a mobile hotspot R850 device for the wireless internet. There is no modem or router provided. The speed, most of the time, is horrible (download from 2.05 Mbps to 8.1 Mbps; upload from 0.64 Mbps to 1.86 Mbps). I paid in advance for the internet. So, I will have to wait until next year (year 2020) before canceling it and find a difference ISP. I HIGHLY NOT RECOMMEND THIS COMPANY!
Karlous C. says
Pc’s for people is not affordable nor reliable, it’s $215 to start out if you wanna pay $11.25 a month plus Hotspot, otherwise it is $16 a month, i don’t think many low income people can afford that, plus the service is very spotty and unreliable…
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
We get tons of complaints about all the other low-income internet plans, but every few complaints about PCs for People. Guess you can’t please everyone.
Mary robinson says
I need internet in my house
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
You need to enroll to get internet at your house.
M. says
I know the service has been around for awhile but I’m still a little concerned about giving strangers my SSI number. I’ve tried to call the office in Denver and the main office to find out how sensitive data is secured but cannot get through to a human. How do you actually speak to a PCs For people rep?
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
PCs for People is completely legit, M. Try sending the an email via their website. They have always been very responsive to us and we’re sure you’ll have the same experience.
Henry says
I also had the same concern about exposing my SSN to them. They replied that the number can be covered over when you provide them a copy. They do need your name and address though, so that could not be blanked out.
Gianluca says
Stay away from PCs for People, horrible service, spotty coverage, i had to tape the expensive crappy Hotspot to a window to get Sprint’s crappy and spotty 3G, and trust me i did my research before ordering,checked their coverage maps and everything checked out fine,till i actually tried the service, this service shouldn’t be recommended to low income people,It’s neither affordable nor reliable, now i’m out $220, there is no refund for the POS Hotspot they make you buy, hopefully they will refund me the prepaid internet i paid for, Stay Away….
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
We’re not sure, but we think this may be the first negative comment we’ve ever received about PCs for People. Sorry you had a bad experience, Gianluca.
Ana rivas says
This is fantastic! Is this service available in Omaha Nebraska at all? I do not see this city referenced above… Can this service be order online -for Nebraska’ address-? Thanks for any information.
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
Use the contact info we provide in the article (above) to contact PCs for People customer service. They can answer all your questions.
Loretta Liller says
Do you service Luray Virginia??
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
Check with PCs for People customer service.
mee says
PCs for People should not be on your list of cheap internet if you MUST be 200% below federal poverty [which means you’d eligible for food stamps/Medicaid], and pay $215 up front; you MUST purchase their hot spot device for $80. Anyone that’s truly 200% below poverty would have a very difficult time making a $215 payment. If you are 200% below poverty, all federal Lifeline providers give you a free cell phone w/unlimited talk & text, plus 2-3gb of free internet/data, and $0.01 to $0.05 per minute for additional family members.
I contacted P2P, if the internet provider Mobile Beacon should go bankrupt, there is NO REFUND for unused advanced payment, or the modem; which can not be used for any other purpose except for their internet program; the exact same device is sold on ebay for less. There is also NO REFUND if the modem is defective, as all the equipment they sell are older refurbished devices; I’m surprised that these modems can actually process 4G LTE speeds. Although they claim ‘UNLIMITED INTERNET’ the fine print also states that they will significantly throttle users consuming more than 10gb monthly. Watching 2-3 online training school lectures or movies will easily take you over 10gb. CAUTION – BUYERS BE AWARE!!
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
We’re pretty sure that math is not your strongest subject, Mee. Your reading comprehension appears to be a bit suspect, too.
“Individuals interested in getting unlimited 4G LTE service must provide proof that they are at or below 200% of the Federal poverty level.”
That means they can be eligible if they make two times more than the poverty guidelines. It’s one of the most generous plans out there in that these loose regulations mean more people can be eligible.
Henry says
The most current Sprint network management guidelines state that you will be deprioritized after you use 50 GB of data.
https://www.sprint.com/en/legal/open-internet-information.html
Mobile Beacon does not control how the network operates. I could not find any reference to a 10 GB limitation anywhere on Sprint or Mobile Beacon’s website.
Fred Conway says
Do you cover in Mississippi? I lice in Aberdeen, Mississippi.
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
You’ll need to contact PCs for People customer service to find out specific coverage areas, but they have told us in the past that they now cover parts of all 50 states. Good luck.
Lisa says
Henry, I have just received my p2p internet and hotspot. I was told they don’t do more than month to month (i.e.no yearly etc. plans). Also, They sent me a hotspot of their choosing; I had no choice in the matter. That said, I’m *loving* my service, and the person who got me set up worked with me to make everything as smooth and painless as possible! 😀
Henry says
Lisa
I am currently a subscriber at PCs for People and I just renewed for an annual subscription in October. On their website, I still see 3 month, 6 month, 9 month and 12 month plans available. The only hotspot that is being offered is the Franklin R850 from what I see. Supposedly, the other models are no longer available. There is another Sprint provider that does offer a service that is month to month. Connectall.org offers a $11.95 monthly charge that renews each month. They also require you to purchase the Franklin R850 hotspot for $99, so your initial charge will be $110.95. They do not have income requirements unlike PCs for People. Their offer is better than the 4GCommunity.org service that shut down on November 30, 2017.
Henry says
Posting an update regarding the Connectall.org monthly internet service provided by Sprint for $11.95 a month. The website no longer offers the service, so possibly enough subscribers were enrolled. The enrollment eligibility was not income dependent as with other providers.
Henry says
Posting another update regarding the Connectall.org internet service that is provided by Mobile Citizen through Sprint. The $11.95 a month service appears to be low income qualifying like PCs for People. You have to be eligible by registering and setting up an account before you can subscribe to the service. I did not subscribe through their website, so I was probably wrong when I said that it was not income dependent. The hotspot model that they are now offering has changed. It was the Franklin R850 and is now the coolpad SURF Hotspot. They charge $99 for the hotspot. But they do offer month to month billing at a price similar to PCs for People yearly subscription price,
Jenna says
RUN! DONT WALK RUN!!!! PCs for People is great —- IF and ONLY IF you pay for service annually and never have to contact them for any Customer Service. I’ve qualified for their service being told I was in a “prime service location”. Which is a lie. Unfortunately I paid upfront and have spent the last 6 months with no internet access.. because they offer discounts they think I’m a poor idiot who should lick their toes for treating me like garbage and stealing my money. AT&T Access program is cheaper, hard wired fiber optic, with WiFi, truely unlimited and faster. Not to mention I didn’t have to pay $100 for a $30 hotspot. They sent me a Netgear NGV599 and a tech to install everything FREE and my first bill was $10.33. if you are in an area ATT has slower service only it would be $5.33. Forget PCs for People they treat ppl like trash. Never again. BBB should be concerned.
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
This is one of the very few negative comments we’ve ever received about PCs for People. It’s not our job to defend any of the service providers, but PCs for People is unique among low-income internet service providers because it is a small organization dedicated to bringing internet to people who otherwise couldn’t afford it. It’s not operated by a high-tech communications giant like AT&T or Comcast. That explains most of your problems, Jenna. On the other hand, they do great work with no dreams of billion dollar paydays that the operators of the giant firms may enjoy.
Henry says
I don’t understand the complaint. If you found a better deal at AT&T why did you bother to subscribe with PCs for People? Hard wired connections will ALWAYS be better than over the air wireless connections. Not every location is a Sprint network accessible region. Regarding the cost of the hotspot device, yes, it can be rather high in cost and if there are service issues, you wasted your money on it. But this is the risk that you assume when you purchase it. The Spring WIMAX service was shut down a few years ago and all of the Sprint WIMAX routers became useless. You had unlimited service that turned off and you were left with a router that could not be used for other purposes (at least regarding 4G LTE service).
Will M. says
I’ve been a customer of PC’S for People for over 2 years and have had exactly 2 issues with their products OR their service. Customer service was quick to respond and took care of the issues quickly and expertly.
I recommend them to everyone I know and have several friends who are satisfied customers as well.
If you read the information on their website regarding internet service you will see they tell you to contact sprint to make sure your address is covered and that it is your responsibility to do so.
John says
If I lived in an area with cheap AT&T of course 4G wouldn’t make sense but we don’t all live in AT&Ts customer areas. In fact I think a lot of these comments are from salty broadband salesmen angry that we’re getting a better deal and getting to live where we want. PCs for people are also super nice every time I talk to them. If you let your service expire it will take a few days to come back on after you pay they’re pretty busy.
Christine McLeman says
Hello. I am in need of your assistance. I am Christine Lynnette McLeman. I am interested in getting Low-income internet service.
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
Sorry, Christine, but we are not PCs for People. You need to use the contact info we provide in the article above to contact P4P directly.
Yang S Ahn says
I live at Orange county California. And I have California medi-caid card.
Can I order your Sprint internet?
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
We are NOT PCs for People, Yang. You need to contact the organization directly using the contact info we provide in the article above.
Henry says
The prices for the PCs for People internet have increased on November 22, 2018. I received an email about the increase and it is now reflected on their website.
1 month is $16.00
3 months is $45.00
6 months is $85.00
9 months is $115.00
12 months is $135.00
So the lowest monthly cost will now be $11.25 excluding promotional discounts.
Francine Massdin says
I receive snap and ssi. I would like to apply for the low cost internet program
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
You can’t apply here, Francine, because we are an independent informational website, NOT PCs for People. But you can find PCs for People’s contact info in the article above.
Sharon L Mills says
I am 53 years old and can’t work. I’m fighting to get on disability, and have snap and medical assistance
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
Sounds like you qualify, so you should attempt to enroll using the contact info we provide in the article above.
Richard G Stewart jr says
I am 55 years old and my wife is 68. I am on disability and receive food stamps. my wife, received disability until she reached 65 years of age. After that, she receives Social Security Retirement. We are on fixed incomes, our combined income is $2207.00
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
We are not PCs for People, Richard. This is an independent informational website, which means no one from PCs for People is likely to see your comment. You need to contact the company’s customer service team using the contact info we provide in the article above.
Henry says
The current maximum monthly income for two people for this program is $2,743 per month. You need copies of your ID plus a copy of an eligibility document (such as a tax return or benefits statement) in order to apply.
Angie says
Will you ever be in Charleston WV? This would be awesome. I’m on ssi but not a senior. It bites.
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
PCs for People is now in all fifty states. We can’t tell you if they service your part of Charleston, but a quick call to customer service should get you the answer you’re looking for.
TDSteve says
Take 10% off all PCs for People orders till Sept 30th 2018…
I believe all future and current eligible customers can use this code.
Coupon Code: backtoschool10
Start the school year by taking 10% off all purchases at http://www.pcsrefurbished.com ! Of Snagging yourself a new computer to do homework or an internet subscription.
Insert the coupon code backtoschool10 at online checkout or tell our in-store cashiers the code to get the 10% off discount.
Offer expires September 30th, 2018.
TDSteve says
@ May Sorensen and Casey Sorensen
Since I’m not affiliated and have no association, approval or endorsement on your part.
Would you now be in the possition to have a volunter of your team, staff member to officially offer support here to users questions and comments?
Where else on the internet has covered as much about your purpose than your own site, but, people don’t find it as easily as the catchy name of this site – Cheap Internet.
This is where they find out about you and your purpose, the huge discounts you offer in internet, computers and accessories related…
I’ve tried to call it quits on my participations in this topic a year ago. Please : ) consider of your personnel to offer support weekly, bi-monthly or when there’s something posted.
70,000 Computers, 19 Years, Thousands Impacted
Since 1998, PCs for People has been a driving force behind digital inclusion efforts across the US. As a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization, our mission is to provide a bridge across the digital divide that offers employment and educational opportunities to low-income individuals, families with children, and those with disabilities.
– – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – –
I’ve been seeing for some time now that PCs for People unlimited mobile internet service being referred to as “Bridging the Gap” Internet Offer in program and service on it’s site.
Some things seem to be in a state of flux with PCs for People going back and forth.
As back here in my post of May 13, 2018 at 5:25 am – the Franklin Wireless R850 in online sales was replaced by the Franklin Wireless R910 modem with a ($129.95) price tag in the big package of (4G LTE Modem + 12 Months) internet subscription.
That made the big package total cost of $249.95 then, now the site (as of this post) is having the Franklin Wireless R850 shown there and the big package (4G LTE Modem + 12 Months internet) pricing just under $200.00 once again.
But, still on the (link offered below) it still has under the heading of “Initial Pricing” this-
‘To get started you will need a 4G LTE modem ($129.95) and a prepaid Internet subscription. Subscriptions start at $10 per month and can be purchased in 3 month, 6 month and 12 month increments.’
Now today, you don’t even have to be a P4P customer already to get the 1-month subscription of ($15.00) offered to you, and can get it with a Franklin R850 modem ($79.95) for the total price of $94.95.
https://www.pcsrefurbished.com/sales/buyInternet.aspx?product=1736
This opens the door for people wanting to test the Sprint mobile internet from PCs for People in there hometown area.
Then as I understand what’s in print on their site under the heading of “Modem Return Policy”
‘Items must be returned within 7 days from the date the device is received.’
So as a new subscriber – if the Sprint mobile internet from PCs for People doesn’t pan out for you and the modem is returned within 7 days of the received date.
(Possibly at least back in transit to PCs for People within that 7 days time period, may qualify you for a refund.)
This would be a question to ask before making a purchase, and get the persons name you’ve spoken to and their title and the location the call was answered at. Contact PCs for People at 651-354-2552 or sales@pcsforpeople.com
If you returned the modem you’d still be charged for the 1-month subscription ($15.00), as the reads “Subscription Refund Policy” ‘Internet subscriptions may be refunded for any unused months remaining on your current subscription term.’
Since you purchased the 1-month subscription of ($15.00) – you’ll not get this back or prorated, but, if you purchased more months of a subscription term – those full unused months are refunded.
Return shipping labels are the responsibilities of the purchaser.
Everything you’d want to know about PCs for People ‘Eligibility’
https://www.pcsforpeople.org/eligibility/
PCs for People ‘Contact US’ page.
https://www.pcsrefurbished.com/about/contact.aspx
My respect and regards goes out to PCs for People and Cheap Internet,
TDSteve
TDSteve says
We didn’t see a sale held by PCs For People during the Digital Inclusion Week as last year. So better late than never they are offering a Independence Day Coupon for 10% off on a computer, accessories or in renewing your internet service.
Head to http://www.pcsrefurbished.com, select the items you wish to purchase and enter the coupon code julyfour1810
at checkout using the box provided for it.
I suspect this code is good till the end of today and for today only…
PCs For People Stores Are Closed On July 4th -but- online sales work 24/7 to signups and/or purchases of customers already having accounts.
Please note that their brick and motor stores are closed in observance of our American Independence Day. They’ll return to regular hours on July 5, 2018. So make a purchase at least today on the 4th, and if needed upload your required proof of eligibility.
Then someone will confirm the sale when their stores opens during regular hours.
TDSteve
TDSteve says
Vote for PCs for People!
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Wednesday, June 27th – IS THE LAST DAY TO VOTE !
Vote here:
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Just got this email today…
IF YOU CAN OR WANT TO GIVE PCs for People a Vote.
Thanks,
TDSteve
TDSteve says
After taking a closer look:
@laurie santolino,
Printed it says –
Modem Warranty – 60-Day Mobile Beacon and One Year Limited Manufacturer Warranty
Mobile Beacon currently provides a 60-day hardware warranty through the network provider and a one year limited warranty is provided by the device manufacturer. The warranty starts from the date a device is activated on behalf PCs for People, not when the device is received by the end user. PCs for People provides device support, but does not provide warranty replacement for internet devices.
The “GRAY” areas are “The warranty starts from the date a device is activated on behalf PCs for People” and “PCs for People provides device support, but does not provide warranty replacement for internet devices.”
As well as possibly PCs for People is to act as our agent or intermediatory in fashion to our modem warranty replacements – my thoughts and words…
There’s nothing said, but I seem to see a “path” that any modem warranty replacement for a PCs For People customer must undertake – past the 60-day hardware warranty that Mobile Beacon covers through the network provider (Sprint).
All would still have to be routed from the Device Manufacturer -to- Mobile Beacon -then on to- PCs For People – and then finally to the customer needing the device warrantied.
Simply because “Mobile Beacon’s activation process does not currently allow users to supply their own device.” Same as if, a replacement modem came from the Device Manufacturer directly to you the customer. Mobile Beacon wouldn’t have activated it yet, and it wouldn’t work with PCs For People Internet Subscription you’ve paid for already – numbers of the modem device has to be registered through Mobile Beacon end with Sprint first.
Derek Volk answer my be valid, if say the ZTE modem you have is in short supply at PCs For People or even at Mobile Beacon end.
I know all this doesn’t help in anything but to inform you mostly.
I see no reason why you couldn’t upgrade on your own to the last modem offered by the PCs For People website in the “Franklin Wireless R910”. If the site won’t allow it — call them and speak to a sales manager. If do you get another ZTE modem later warrantied, you could sell it after unlocking it with the help of PCs For People for anyone to use with Sprint on one of their MVNO’s or Sprint directly.
TDSteve
Moon doggey says
They changed the price it’s no longer for 120 for 12 months. It’s 129 for 9 months
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
Not sure what you’re talking about, Moon. We just checked PCs for People’s website and it still shows twelve months for $120.
TDSteve says
@Moon doggey,
The only time you’ll see an offer for 9-months, is if your a CUSTOMER of PCs for People already and login to your account there.
CUSTOMERS will see a 1-month as well as the 9-months options for Internet Subscription renewals -or- whatever time has pasted in using the service and your able to add back in topping up to 12-months and no more than 15-months being possible in total. Besides 9-months adds only $100. in costs if your a customer already and not seen by a new customer anyways.
I’m sure with everything printed on the site you’ve gotten confused somehow. Otherwise a link where you’ve seen it would help.
So I have to agree with Cheap Internet the price for Internet Subscriptions hasn’t changed as of the prices stated on their site for new customers. https://pcsrefurbished.com/
Subscriptions start at $10 per month and can be purchased in 3 month, 6 month and 12 month increments.
•3 Months for $40
•6 Months for $75
•12 Months for $120
https://pcsrefurbished.com/sales/internetPackages.aspx
I would *caution* anyone shopping for the Big Package to notice the “Internet Packages” blocks of info. and see the “First and Last” buttons under them to find the block telling about and 4G LTE Modem + 12 Months, as it’s hidden now having to use the last button in seeing it.
TDSteve
TDSteve says
Dear laurie santolino,
If all is as you’ve said, then it’s time to go outside the box.
Make a BBB and FTC report and complaint on the business.
In response to all, that is if P4P answers you in those mediums do state you want to be credit for the time that you were unable to use the internet service and seek a working replacement upgrade to the newest hotspot available…
What’s the location of P4P are you calling? They do have multiple locations and offices, you might try calling each one and ask to speak to the Internet manager/SUPERVISOR of each till someone takes ownership of your problem. Request a callback and give a 2-3 hour window of two weekdays for someone in authority to call you.
Hope it works out for you and possibly if not try the partner Mobile Beacon. I would know how to advise you there, but someone from MB could give insights to you.
-Scam Advisory-
Got an email from P4P about Phone Scams.
“PCs for People will never call you to remove viruses, remotely control your computer or ask you for money for repair services over the phone.
We will also never ask for your password or login information over the phone. If you receive a call from someone claiming to be from PCs for People and they ask for money to repair your computer, ask for control of your computer remotely or ask for a password, hang up immediately. You can call us at 651-354-2552 if you have questions or require tech support.”
You can learn more about phone scams and how to protect yourself at the FTC Tech Support Scams site here.
https://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0346-tech-support-scams
TDSteve
TDSteve says
Corrections:
“to be credit for the time” was meant – to be credited for the time
“I would know how to advise you” was meant – I wouldn’t know how to advise you
So use to an edit option in other sites…
laurie santolino says
Iv’e had pcsforpeople since Oct 2017. The ZTE hot spot quit working the first week in May. Since May 7th i have called 5-6 times and also emailed. Said it was under warranty. They told me it will be 7-10 business days to receive a replacement. It is now going on a month and still nothing. The last 2 times i called i was told it was already shipped but wasn’t. It has been almost a month and every time i call after holding for an hour plus they say the same thing that they have to check with their internet manager. I asked if i could purchase a new one but was told the replacement had already been shipped. They have been dishonest to me from day one. Derek Volk did reply to one of my emails saying due to the uptick in warranty replacement requests there’s been a delay and would update me. Still nothing. Iv’e asked to talk with a manager but they say there is no manager. Very disappointing.
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
Try writing to the president of the organization. That usually gets their attention. We have a feeling that TD Steve, one of our readers and a huge PCs for People fan, will have a response to your comments.
TDSteve says
Go figure… Low Income is a curse ! ! !
A tug of war if you well, and then when you gain a little ground it’s snatched out from under you – let me explain.
But- first Cheap Internet should think about a start-up sister site something in the regards of life as an low-income family, person, retired and disabled status in todays world here the US of A…
Just as your lists for cheap internet and the companies in the break downs looking at the States and Cities where a low-income get the most bang for their buck to living modestly on a fixed income around 8,000. to 16,000 yearly. Offer articles of government entitlements, legal aid, retailer programs catering to low-income, strategies, planning, debt handling, what money businesses to steer clear of, buying used over new, and the like.
Now. Actually I’m (lets just call it) two years in to PCS FOR PEOPLE program for my Internet. I’ve managed to have a little more money in doing it with the big package (Device + 12 months subscription), all at once of the then price just under $200. for the whole year…
NOW it’s about $250.00 for the big package…
The real value and benefit is you’re paying for the whole year up front, no monthly bills and after the first year it’s only a subscription costs. Being $120.00 for a years subscription if you paid up front…
The internet was costing me and has came down from a total of $600. yearly from a major company for the slowest speed I could afford in internet and in making the monthly payments I was paying – which were a drag to stay abreast and on top of or be penalized.
This yields not really a surplus now by any means as if my cup runnith over. Just my being able to pay all the bills I owe in a months time and being current with them and a few bucks left.
A $120. yearly cost for unlimited internet helps out a great deal, but unlike the Lifeline government phone program which is similar in pricing but has it’s limits by States – this as in sole INTERNET is all on you my dear friends. Go mobile and unlimited with PCS FOR PEOPLE without any limits if you qualify.
I still qualify for my PCS FOR PEOPLE with the SNAP/EBT program, but managed to get a secured credit card started for bad times and emergencies as well as building some kind of credit. That required a savings account as the security on the CC and I’ve doubled the required minimum opening balance.
This in turn has lowered my monthly food stamps allotment by $55.00 now or more than a third. Man, I have a few choice words every time I think about it, not as a rap in the mouth, but as painful as getting kicked in the mouth and losing teeth kind of pain.
Nothing has changed to my Gross/Net incomes and I can only think it’s something in the aspect of assets and resources. I don’t have to file taxes, but did an OIC (offer in compromise) or whatever it’s called a few years back with legal aids help, with an stipulation by IRS – I had to file taxes for the next five years of they’d reverse their decision with everything due. So I’ve been filing both State and Federal returns, but State was not necessary – I just wanted a complete record of those five years…
So Low-Income is a cursed status and the system keeps one there figuring out a way to take away any forward momentum in gains and rap it to costing you more in the end : {
TDSteve
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
We’re going to politely decline to start the website you suggest, TD. We have our hands full trying to handle CheapInternet.com and FreeGovernmentCellPhones.net.
TDSteve says
Catching up with PCs For People:
Don’t see the 10% off sale I’d hoped for this time of the year as prior years yielded. Black Friday 15% and Cyber Monday 10% off site wide sales I do hope remain still…
P4P looks to have updated to yet another mobile hotspot-modem.
This Hotspot modem is the newest of older listed here in their order made available through P4P –
Franklin Wireless R910
[No Longer Available – 4G LTE Hotspot modems Device List]
ZTE Warp Connect
Franklin Wireless R850
Netgear Fuse
Novatel MiFi 500
@ no longer available dosen’t mean not supported or no longer working with P4P Internet Subscriptions…
I’m still using the Netgear Fuse AC779S of two years back – works still with my P4P Internet subscription renewals.
The P4P’s big package 4G LTE Modem + 12 Months = $249.95 now.
Franklin R910 Hotspot ($129.95)
12 Months of Internet Service ($120.00)
Unlimited 4G LTE Service*
Use at home or on the road
Customer must prove eligibility
No Throttled speeds
No data caps
No hidden fees
Franklin R910 Hotspot – mobile hotspot 129.95
https://pcsrefurbished.com/sales/internetPackages.aspx
YES, that’s up from just under $200.00 as it was when I joined and because of the newest 4G LTE Hotspot modem, as it lays on Sprint’s part in connecting to their network, hopefully adding more seurity and encryption to the Wi-Fi features of the Hotspot.
Seen one review site saying – “Franklin R910 Mobile Hotspot – Also known as the Franklin Wireless R850 Hotspot, Franklin Wireless MHSR910”.
Initial and Renewal Pricing – For P4P Internet’s subscriptions remain the same!
To get started you will need a 4G LTE modem ($129.95) and a prepaid Internet subscription package.
Subscriptions and renewals start at $10 per month and can be purchased in 3 month, 6 month and 12 month increments.
•3 Months for $40
•6 Months for $75
•12 Months for $120
Q- Can I bring my own modem?
A- No. Unfortunately, Mobile Beacon’s activation process does not currently allow users to supply their own device. P4P will provide updates if the current process changes.
https://pcsrefurbished.com/about/internetFAQ.aspx
P4P = my short form term of PCs For People, the non-profit here…
TDSteve
Henry says
The current device available on the site is the Franklin R850 model. The Franklin R910 model is no longer available.
TDSteve says
Hi Cheap Internet,
Hearing word of T-Mobile and Sprint are in talks of mergers again and with the Republican headed FCC what you think will be an outcome. Wonder what Mobile Beacon thinks ? The court ordered outcome for low-income internet access that Sprint took over was, I believe till 2036 or something like it. If the speed was reduced to being unusable then 2036 wouldn’t mean much. Though I’ve herd this merger is to insure one of these companies can compete with the majors in 5G mobile technology.
Companies merging and buying others is that really growing America and making America great? I would think not. . .
What would be a name for this company – T-rint ?
OFFTOPIC
With robots taking jobs of humans where are the handicap to work?
I’m seeing security cameras offering 4G SIM options to use in off-beat locations, most part now where internet IP cameras can’t work.
Gas prices are to raise first time in 4 years to an average $2.7? this year.
Free DNS pools to locate relatives, banks and sells or gives away your info. and is bad as it’s not protected by the courts and laws where people have the same rights being observed, think a few generations from now what will come from this.
TDSteve
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
We nominate “Sproble” as the new company’s name.
TDSteve says
That’s good Cheap Internet.
Would this be the first sole company in this tier (major network) to offer both GMS and CDMA networks from one company label and also of the world?
Down stream tiers like MVNO’s are doing it in offering both networks – but a major network supplier of the network has never attempted this to my knowledge.
Maybe true purpose in the end is grabbing Sprints held spectrum.
Wonder how IoT figures in here and then in the future of 5G wireless services and applications on both spectrums?
https://www.fcc.gov/about-fcc/fcc-initiatives/incentive-auctions
How about T-mobopoly for name.
CEO of T-Mobile and Trump related?
TDSteve
TDSteve says
Hi Cheap Internet,
Maybe it’s time for a “Start-Here” page/form from Cheap Internet to help consumers, and then reap-in sales commissions from the low income Internet companies.
Of course a disclaimer in the page/form that Cheap Internet stands to gain revenue from their affiliate link only from the Internet Provider the user has deemed a good match for them.
This site is huge for someone trying to relate all the info. viable to them in one session and walk away knowing there wasn’t something better, or if at all and give up.
This is the digital age and information given at high speed, so people don’t want do the heavy lifting or extensive leg work anymore in digesting mesh-mash enormous facts. So simplify it with a start-here of sorts.
So offer a start-here page/form to fill out without all their personal info. related, name-income-address-etc…
Answering questions that funnels one towards the best options per answers given.
Questions like:
How will you qualify or be eligible.
( )-Income-based government assistance program – food stamps (SNAP) or other qualifying assistance.
( )-low-income – below 150%-200% of federal poverty guidelines.
( )-at least one student who qualifies for the National School Lunch Program.
What kind of delivery for Internet are you interested in.
( )-mobile data internet.
( )-cable.
( )–satellite
For a Metro or rural area.
( )metro
( )-rural
etc.. etc.. and so forth
Then when that’s sorted out by users answers give a review page to continue with your affiliate link(s) that Cheap Internet will get a % of the sale.
Users personal information (name, address, income, eligibility) will only go on the supplier of their Internet provider signup form on it’s own website that your affiliate link points too.
TDSteve
Angie says
So how good is the internet service. I have been reading articles on your website and trying to determine which service I would be eligible for and is affordable on my current limited budget. I have been with US Cellular for years and can no longer afford internet through them. My internet service has always been excellent (fast)with them. Phone service has been excellent as well although there always seem to be hidden charges they don’t mention when adjusting plans.
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
That question is almost impossible to answer, Angie. For example, the internet service we have is much slower than our next door neighbor’s, yet we have the same service provider.
TDSteve says
Hi Angie
Please find this helpful – not in any order of choice/requirements.
Access from AT&T
Access from AT&T costs just $5.00 a month and brings you relatively fast 3 Mbps download speed.
5 and 10 Mbps is available for $10 per month.
Take note, that AT&T will automatically give you the fastest speed available in your service area.
There will be data limits for people using the program, up to 600GB a month, and overage charges for anyone who uses more.
At least one person in your home must receive food stamps (SNAP). And you must live in AT&T’s 21-state service area.
Must not have – outstanding debt for AT&T fixed Internet service within the last six months or outstanding debt incurred under this program.
https://www.cheapinternet.com/low-income-internet/att-access
Comcast’s Internet Essentials
Internet service speeds to up to 15/2 Mbps.
40 hours of free out-of-home WiFi access per month.
Comcast expanding Essentials for low-income senior citizens from five cities and metropolitan areas to 12.
Internet Essentials is now available in every area served by Comcast.
$9.95 per month and cannot have been a Comcast internet subscriber in the last 90 days.
https://www.cheapinternet.com/low-income-internet/internet-essentials
Spectrum Internet Assist
Speeds of up to 30 Mbps downstream and 4 Mbps upstream.
The Data cap eliminating on this new plan means you can use all the internet you want.
Aimed at two important groups, families with students who participate in the National School Lunch Program
and Seniors 65 and older who receive Supplemental Security Income.
You will not qualify if you have had a Charter, Time-Warner or Bright House broadband subscription within 60 days of enrolling.
And if you have any outstanding bills with any of the three companies.
Low-income families and seniors can get unlimited high-speed internet for just $14.99 per month.
https://www.cheapinternet.com/low-income-internet/spectrum-internet-assist
PC’s for People
Just scroll back up to the article above…
See a short overview of them all with links to more info. here-
https://www.cheapinternet.com/low-income-internet
Overview of affordable Internet service not requiring low-income-
https://www.cheapinternet.com/low-cost-internet-service
TDSteve
TDSteve says
Hi Angie,
Most will have added federal fees and state and local taxes, PCs For People dosen’t I believe and maybe because it’s a non-profit offering?
Please find this below helpful – not in any order of choice/requirements.
Access from AT&T
Access from AT&T costs just $5.00 a month and brings you relatively fast 3 Mbps download speed.
5 and 10 Mbps is available for $10 per month.
Take note, that AT&T will automatically give you the fastest speed available in your service area.
There will be data limits for people using the program, up to 600GB a month, and overage charges for anyone who uses more.
At least one person in your home must receive food stamps (SNAP). And you must live in AT&T’s 21-state service area.
Must not have – outstanding debt for AT&T fixed Internet service within the last six months or outstanding debt incurred under this program.
https://www.cheapinternet.com/low-income-internet/att-access
Comcast’s Internet Essentials
Internet service speeds to up to 15/2 Mbps.
40 hours of free out-of-home WiFi access per month.
Comcast expanding Essentials for low-income senior citizens from five cities and metropolitan areas to 12.
Internet Essentials is now available in every area served by Comcast.
$9.95 per month and cannot have been a Comcast internet subscriber in the last 90 days.
https://www.cheapinternet.com/low-income-internet/internet-essentials
Spectrum Internet Assist
Speeds of up to 30 Mbps downstream and 4 Mbps upstream.
The Data cap eliminating on this new plan means you can use all the internet you want.
Aimed at two important groups, families with students who participate in the National School Lunch Program
and Seniors 65 and older who receive Supplemental Security Income.
You will not qualify if you have had a Charter, Time-Warner or Bright House broadband subscription within 60 days of enrolling.
And if you have any outstanding bills with any of the three companies.
Low-income families and seniors can get unlimited high-speed internet for just $14.99 per month.
https://www.cheapinternet.com/low-income-internet/spectrum-internet-assist
PC’s for People
Just scroll back up to the article above…
See a short overview of them all with links to more info. here-
https://www.cheapinternet.com/low-income-internet
Overview of affordable Internet service not requiring low-income-
https://www.cheapinternet.com/low-cost-internet-service
TDSteve
TDSteve says
Hi Angie,
Most will have the added federal fees and state and local taxes, PCs For People dosen’t I believe and maybe because it’s a non-profit offering, that was in some way court ordered in part for their partners company that they joined with or under?
Please find this below helpful – not in any order of choice/requirements.
Access from AT&T
Access from AT&T costs just $5.00 a month and brings you relatively fast 3 Mbps download speed.
5 and 10 Mbps is available for $10 per month.
Take note, that AT&T will automatically give you the fastest speed available in your service area.
There will be data limits for people using the program, up to 600GB a month, and overage charges for anyone who uses more.
At least one person in your home must receive food stamps (SNAP). And you must live in AT&T’s 21-state service area.
Must not have – outstanding debt for AT&T fixed Internet service within the last six months or outstanding debt incurred under this program.
https://www.cheapinternet.com/low-income-internet/att-access
Comcast’s Internet Essentials
Internet service speeds to up to 15/2 Mbps.
40 hours of free out-of-home WiFi access per month.
Comcast expanding Essentials for low-income senior citizens from five cities and metropolitan areas to 12.
Internet Essentials is now available in every area served by Comcast.
$9.95 per month and cannot have been a Comcast internet subscriber in the last 90 days.
https://www.cheapinternet.com/low-income-internet/internet-essentials
Spectrum Internet Assist
Speeds of up to 30 Mbps downstream and 4 Mbps upstream.
The Data cap eliminating on this new plan means you can use all the internet you want.
Aimed at two important groups, families with students who participate in the National School Lunch Program
and Seniors 65 and older who receive Supplemental Security Income.
You will not qualify if you have had a Charter, Time-Warner or Bright House broadband subscription within 60 days of enrolling.
And if you have any outstanding bills with any of the three companies.
Low-income families and seniors can get unlimited high-speed internet for just $14.99 per month.
https://www.cheapinternet.com/low-income-internet/spectrum-internet-assist
PC’s for People
Just scroll back up to the article above for details…
See a short overview of more, all of them with links to more info. of each here-
https://www.cheapinternet.com/low-income-internet
Overview of affordable Internet service not requiring a
low-income
https://www.cheapinternet.com/low-cost-internet-service
TDSteve
Sandy says
We have an modem from when we had service In Minneapolis now we live In Kansas city mo, would we be able to use this modem for services now..
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
That’s impossible for us to determine, Sandy. But you can undoubtedly get your question answered if you speak to PCs for People customer service or tech support. Good luck.
TDSteve says
Hi Sandy,
Lot of if’s I’d imagine here. Basically if the following is true.
Say your able to still qualify for internet and the modem still works then mostly = yes.
KC. MO. has Sprint service, and as well the HQ of Sprint was located there if I’m thinking right.
Do check with the PCs for People customer service friendly folks as the right info. and share it here if you would of your outcome.
P4P has had two newer modems since I started service and my old one (only one I have) is still working strong.
Sprint has never been real fast to me but it’s the only mobile internet offering for low-income folks, which is a plus for home PC use and outings with Laptop, or smartphones using data. Look into that Comcast program for low-income. Their in the Metro KC area as well.
TDSteve
TDSteve says
Correction to Sandy – I meant that AT&T program ACCESS I think it’s called, though both are available in KC Metro and Sprint too.
All that kind of information is right on this website Cheap Internet…
TDSteve
TDSteve says
As you know PCs For People offers low costing Computers, as well as mobile internet service over the Sprint cell towers – if living within the coverage areas.
I just got an email from them – “Pcsforpeople.org has a brand new look! Now it’s easier than ever to find out how you can get affordable low-cost technology. Take a look at the new website.”
Need an iMac they are offering and have some of them too.
As usual supplies are limited being on a first come bases…
All computers are for the cheap being recycled from business and offered to low-income households.
Remember we’re a few weeks away from their next site-wide sale, but there’s no guarantee it will be offered again, last year it was in the second week of May I believe called the Digital Inclusion week event.
TDSteve
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
Thanks, Steve.
TDSteve says
Just an early Heads-Up…
The next sale held by PCs For People is likely to be during the Digital Inclusion Week.
May 8-13 from what I find, sorry I didn’t save that email to know for sure…
Never-the-less some months to save up for it, if you buy in for a years subscription and then your set for a years period till it expires.
All for far less than your paying now – I assure you. If you need the whole enchilada as the device and a 12 month subscription of internet – it’s close to a $200.00 cost for you.
Internet alone is $120.00 for 12 months and a Hotspot Device is around $75.00 – then save maybe 10% off catching this next P4P sale!
TDSteve
TDSteve says
Just a thought : )
Maybe cheapinternet.com can do an article on this topic “Digital Inclusion”.
This is what I’m finding right now- Definition: Digital Inclusion:
Digital Inclusion refers to the activities necessary to ensure that all individuals and communities, including the most disadvantaged, have access to and use of Information and Communication Technologies (ICTs).
This includes 5 elements:
1) affordable, robust broadband internet service;
2) internet-enabled devices that meet the needs of the user;
3) access to digital literacy training;
4) quality technical support; and
5) applications and online content designed to enable and encourage self-sufficiency, participation and collaboration.
Digital Inclusion must evolve as technology advances.
Digital Inclusion requires intentional strategies and investments to reduce and eliminate historical, institutional and structural barriers to access and use technology.
Source: https://www.digitalinclusion.org/
As this to me, seems to be right at cheapinternet.com’s core function already in their broad swatch, as they offer us broadband knowledge and insights right here.
Maybe they (Cheap Internet), could fine tune this information by States, Cities as a National coverage article given to us?
I mean – breaking down the information as home broadband access, public broadband access, personal devices and local technology training and support programs; by each state and their cities.
Who knows, if Cheap Internet is already set as a non-profit, could this lead to funding by some States, or even some Federal programs to help out in running the site?
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PCs For People – News
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Saint Paul, MN – November 2, 2017 – PCs for People distributed a record 1,528 computers to low income individuals in 45 states in October. That means more than 4,800 people – including 2,334 children – can now study, apply for jobs, improve their technical skills, and do other activities most of us take for granted.
More than 1,200 new home Internet hotspots were also handed out last month. The successful October comes on the heels of what was a record-setting September, when 1,256 computers were distributed.
PCs for People gathered nearly 1,700 computers and responsibly recycled 40,000 pounds of electronic waste from 140 partners in October.
Studies continue to show the “Digital Divide” – the lack of a computer and broadband access is a major problem for families in poverty. Digital inclusion is a social justice problem that has far-reaching effects in equity relating to education, health, and income.
Only 48 percent of households with incomes below $25,000 have a home internet connection compared to about 85 percent of households with incomes between $50,000 and $100,000.
Source: https://www.pcsforpeople.com/release-october-record
TDSteve
Vera Feaster says
Too bad about the $120 upfront fee. We’d have to go without food or a place to live to pay that up front.
Henry says
You do not have to purchase the annual plan at $120 if it is too high. They also have a monthly plan at $15 each month. But you need to also buy the hotspot device and that is additional.(around $80). The lowest cost initial fee is $94.95 (one month of service plus the device).
erickmoen says
Im on ssi and i live a 1941 jst apt 6 ***** ***** *****. my phone number is 402-470-**** can some one at please call me?
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
We are not a low-income internet service provider, Erick. This is an independent informational website. You need to contact PCs for People directly by using the contact info we provide in the article above.
Loren says
Before net neutrality got raped last week I was able to find low income Internet up to 40 MBS this post is obviously sponsored by the corporate giants intent on throttling information because now I can’t even find the post everything channels me into major provider backed Internet services.Corporate fascism has begun
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
OK. Whatever you say, Loren.
TDSteve says
That’s better directed to the FCC – Loren.
Have you gone here-
https://www.cheapinternet.com/low-income-internet
or here-
https://www.cheapinternet.com/states
PS: don’t bite the hand that isn’t sponsored by the corporate giants.
Besides, where are you going to get internet accept the major players. Hope 2018 is better for you, as it doesn’t look like 2017 was.
Peace on Earth and privacy of the internet. : )
TheDifferentSteve says
Well this is unexpected . . .
First time ever in PCs For Peoples history
have I seen an extended sale from them.
Happy Holidays from PCs for People
To celebrate, we’re giving you 10% Off through January 1st!
Coupon code:
holiday10
Use the coupon code in the box provided during checkout.
Please remember to have your documents images ready to upload in placing an order ! (state ID & eligibility proof).
The Different Steve
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
Thanks, Different.
TheDifferentSteve says
TODAY ONLY
This years Cyber Monday Coupon Code: cybermonday10
Renew or start your Internet Service and Save 10%.
Site wide sale for 10% off of everything else as well.
The Different Steve
TheDifferentSteve says
I might not get the Cyber Monday 10% off everything coupon code email today, as I had already received the Black Friday 15% off everything coupon code by this time on BF.
I did place a years internet subscription on BF for the 15% off and may be the cause why I haven’t received a same email for Cyber Monday from PCs For People.
Sorry for not being able to post a Cyber Monday coupon code for you today.
The Different Steve
TheDifferentSteve says
TODAY ONLY
This years Black Friday Coupon Code: blackfriday17
Renew or start your Internet and Save 15% site wide for Black Friday
……………………………………………….ONLY………………………………………
The Different Steve
Chris says
Would you have the code for Cyber Monday? Thanks!
Steve says
Hey all – don’t forget in the past, we’ve seen for the November month deals from PCs For People to our inbox’s of an email like-
Happy Thanksgiving from PCs for People
Black Friday – Save 15% off everything.
Subscriptions, PC – desktops/laptops, accessories – everything !
(All specials are while supplies last and only valid for purchases on Black Friday only!)
Happy Holidays from PCs for People
Cyber Monday – Save 10% off everything.
Subscriptions, PC -desktops/laptops, accessories – everything !
(All specials are while supplies last and only valid for purchases on Cyber Monday only!)
ONLY – a “One day” savings in each case of that day’s event.
-This is the only time you can save with PCs For People, except for once in the spring. I’m thinking it was only a 10% off event.
So BLACK FRIDAY is the best time for you to save 15% off, if only to upping your subscription time back to as close to the 12-15 months that’s allowed.
Or get anything else you’d need that they’re to offer.
PCs For Peoples offices will be closed in observance of the Thanksgiving holiday and weekend, normal office business hours will resume on Monday.
PCs For People online sales can be made 24/7 though, and through your online account with P4P or for new signups from their online sales page.
REMEMBER – when ordering to Use the November Coupons…
@Current customers please remember to have your documents images ready to upload in placing an order ! (ID & proof).
I’ll post the coupon’s here on the day’s I receive them – that are used this year – for those people who are not yet P4P customers and not in receipt of getting these company emails.
(Select the products you wish to purchase and enter the coupon code in the offered box at checkout.)
@New customers, you will have to upload your proof of your low income/eligibility. If you can go the government assistance eligibility route, a (Photo ID and Snap/EBT card images – or a low-income tax return/W-2’s). None-the-less supplying some kind of proof and an ID.
For New Customers the 12 month internet subscription and the wireless mobile device (Hotspot) is normally close to $200.00 for the year in internet service. A break down is a12 month subscription term (year) costing $120.00, and a hotspot device for the remainder of that $200.00 costs, but you’ll own the hotspot forever and where else can you get mobile internet as a take it with you application for the cost here. (Home – neighbors – park – on the hi-ways – etc…)
This is the best deal in the cost of a subscription month basis of it’s end costs to you for less. Then in hooking up to the internet in general.
Although, it’s possible to buy in and start the service for as low of a subscription term in 3 months with the included Hotspot device needed, to reduce your initial start up costs. This makes the subscription months cost a little more per month this way.
Then adding additional months or if as a year’s subscription term, the only cost thereafter…
Steve
Chris says
So glad I found your website! Just missed the Black Friday sale but look forward to the Cyber Monday one. The research you put into every program is incredible–I don’t know if you’re paid anything for it but I’m very grateful for this service.
Barbara Lambert says
Well Boo! I qualify for these internet plans but not even PC’s for People is available to me! So fustrating as I’m NOT in a rural area! Henderson, KY is a suburb of Evansville, IN & quite large on it’s own yet we’re hostage to Spectrum.I pay $60 for internet alone, no phone, no TV. Spectrum does offer complete service at $190 a month, that’s 28% of my monthly income! There REALLY SHOULD BE A LAW AGAINST SUCH A MONOPOLY, especially in such a poverty area! The FCC should investigate companies like these, they broke AT&T’s monopoly, why haven’t they done anything about cable/internet providers? Time for me to write the FCC, as I hope others will also!
RVR says
Anyone with the ZTE know how to tell how much of the 23GB you have utilized so far in the billing cycle ? There’s a ‘Data Used’ in the Web UI, but that appears to only show the GB since the last connection. In the photo of the ZTE on the PCs For People website, it shows XXGB/23GB used on the lower half of the screen, but I don’t have that, unless it can be toggled on/off. No, I’d rather not contact PCs For People and draw attention to the account if I’m overlimit.
Thanks.
Rae says
aaaawww Steve, say it ain’t so! I check into this site just to see what pearls of wisdom you are dispensing, and now……… I am alone in the desert! Thanks for all your help (in case you take a peek back to see what is going on. Rae
And thank you Cheap Internet for making the space available to us.
Henry says
I do not understand the issue about turning off ad blocker software. Since I have been using this website, I have never seen such messages. Also, I do not recall seeing banner ads at any time I have been on this website. As for invasion of privacy issues, look at the OPM, Anthem, Equifax, Target, all of the many websites, and all of the many personal information exposed to hackers. An ad banner (shown or blocked) is miniscule compared to them. Your privacy most likely has already been exposed by other means that you might not even been aware of.
Steve says
@ Henry,
I hadn’t either until that day I did…
It was one in that you couldn’t do anything with the site.
It made navigation of this site impossible, was forefront and the rest of the site shadowed in the background. Locked the page to scrolling as well.
I don’t know if it was in testing to be used (as you say you’ve never seen it) and as I also never have before here, or any of the others you’ve mentioned. Possibly could of been my updating of my Ad Blocker filters cured it for myself as today it’s gone for me.
I totally agree about privacy, and to the loss in the one you’ve called attention to, but remember personal accounts were needed there for them. Meaning you had to sign-up and volunteer that info first to be stolen from.
It’s just that the low branch bottom feeders of the ads methods to steal your info. just the same adds to the chains of all the data that’s collect on you, as a sites user/reader/visitor (where no sign-up or opt-out is offer or given). It’s pure monetary profits for everyone on the trapping and trading end.
Knowledge is power and the more knowledge you have the more of it’s power one yields. Look at Google !!!
Their cashing in nicely of your info. and trading it away where more can cash in on it and making it a billion dollar industry or at the least trading it for the higher profiled peoples info.
Advertising is said to be it’s core for seeing ads you’d click on, but what about it being used to the denial of jobs, insurance, health plans, memberships, etc…
To many people trade Privacy for Convenience.
TV shows bring to mind the dangers of constant surveillance and connectivity – Person of Interest and Wisdom of the Crowd, some machines like seen in “Person of Interest” already exist (super-computers).
Then you add in the mix the people of your near by surroundings of strangers, or maybe friends setting in your home and what do you get. Everybody with a camera and microphone connected to the internet.
Germany in the world wars could only dream of such a world as ours we live in today.
Steve
Loren says
It’s not just privacy I’ve seen today information last month I was able to find and now I’m being throttled to the same information over and over this is gotten ridiculous
Tracy Mastin says
I would love to have this is am on ssd and have very little money can someone help me to get this internet?
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
PCs for People is one of our favorite plans, Tracy, and you can contact them using the information given in the article above. However, there may be other low-income plans available that meet your needs even better. There’s no way to know until you compare them all. Here’s an article that gives you a lot more info:
https://www.cheapinternet.com/low-income-internet
Sandra M Smith says
I’ve been looking for an internet service for my sister who is raising her grand kids and is on disability social security. The school offers Mobi Max online for the boys. I hope I am reading correct – your internet works where Sprint network is? Sprint is the only cell service where she lives that gets connection inside her home. Does a computer come with this service?
Please let me know what has to be done to sign her up for this service and what the income/program requirements are to be able to be on this program?
This would be a blessing.
Thank You
Sandra Smith
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
We are not PCs for People, Sandra. We are an independent informational website. PCs for People is a great organization and we’ve never heard a bad word about it from our readers. You’ll need to get in touch with the PCs for People to get your questions answered. Contact info can be found in the article above.
Steve says
Dear Cheap Internet Admin.
I don’t like the new popup about my ad-blocker. To turn it off…
WHY NOW AND WHY FOR ANYWAYS?
I guess I won’t be coming back to comment or read your pages here no more for this very reason – the so called you “average about 8000 page views per day” is going down by one at least for now.
It was good till you did this and I know it costs to staff the site and all the overhead you experience doing it. I’m a paid ad-block software user – my money is in short supply so I don’t want to feel I’ve wasted it.
Besides some ads, ad-domains are for a spreading of malware and the others are for nomore than to track website visitors / users and profile them selling on their personal data gained. It’s a multi-billion dollar industry that’s harvesting the visitors information.
I don’t need a site or have use in one that tells me to turn off my paid for Ad-blocker software. I have a choice (or should be given one) to that of my own personal information with the way the internet and websites, computers and browsers all work. What about all the free browsers coming out that are made to block ads?
You know it’s funny – if you were outside my home and peering in my windows I could have you arrested for that personal invasion of my liberties. Why does the web have any difference in my privacy than this or the US Mail service or the landline phone system???
GOOD BYE TO ALL I’ve BEEN ABLE TO HELP. : )
Good bye to CheapInternet dot com ;. )…
STEVE
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
Adios, Steve. We appeciate all the info you’ve provided for our readers.
Rae says
Hey Steve- it’s your groupie Rae. The old hotspot was the Franklin and new one is ZTE. I have had no issues with the ZTE so far. P4P said old one was out of warranty so I accepted that. Too old to fight! I did feel that Sprint technical was actually trying to help. I believe the 1 year is through the manufacturer and 90 days through P4P. I was within days of the 1 year mark. Even with buying the new device, the internet was still reasonably priced through P4P and they are very pleasant to work with. So……I will stay with this setup until somebody pulls the plug on this boon for low income seniors. Thanks to Cheapinternet for providing this space and thanks to Steve for being such a font of information!
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
We’ll second that, Rae.
Steve says
@Rae
: )
Thank you, lovely one.
Steve
Steve says
@Rae
Sprint tech support, I’d imagine have levels assigned of their customers support in profiles – meaning P4P might be on the lowest. Where as they might not put someone more advanced on your issues unless you have requested it through supervisor.
Remember it was a court order that kept the Wi-Max going, when (Clear/ClearWire selling off to Sprint – that deal ???, the facts escapes me now), and as I seem to recall (old as I am), being of that court order and keeping this low-income and non-profit offering in internet alive, migrating it then to this 4G-LTE till sometime in mid 2030’s.
Somewhere here I’ve commented somewhat on this before and gave a link to Mobile Beacon’s stating all of this – on it’s pages.
Rainy day reading to catch up / reflect and pass the day.
[The nonprofits that make up Mobile Citizen and Mobile Beacon leased a portion of their spectrum to Clearwire for 30 years in 2006 in exchange for the ability to provide high-speed broadband service to schools, libraries and nonprofit organizations across the United States.]
“Steve says – July 21, 2017 at 9:34 am”
So unlike the cable companies cheap internet deals mentioned in these pages of https://www.cheapinternet.com/low-income-internet , which have a four year lifespan to it’s users and greater restrictions in a narrow subset of the population on-to who can enjoy their discounted internet offers.
P4P as stated in the article above and Interview with May Sorensen, PCs for People’s Director of Finance and Business Administration.
Q.- Do you have a limit on the number of customers you can sign up?
A. – A recipient can get internet only, computer supply does not affect internet availability. For internet, we will not be able to distribute unlimited $10 per month LTE on Sprint’s network indefinitely. Due to limited bandwidth, selling indefinitely could degrade the service of Sprint’s direct customers. We do not currently know when this offer will be stopped, so we are encouraging eligible recipients to register as soon as they can.
MEANING – once your in with PCs for People’s internet as a member – your possibly good till mid 2030’s – some 19+ years to go.
ALSO STATED (above) TOO –
We are subsidizing the modems to bring costs down to $74.95 which is below Sprint’s wholesale cost. In the future we hope a bring-your-own device policy is allowed and we are also pushing to manufacture our own line of reduced cost modems. Until we are allowed to do that-
So to me, it seems like long term plans after the mid 2030’s are in thoughts for now, and in keeping this low-internet offering going well beyond. I see a better understanding here, if P4P committed to manufacture their own line of modems.
Thank you for answering my questions. : ) – Lovely one…
Steve
Steve says
@Rebecca Flanagan – August 6, 2017 at 8:04 am
In the first few days of June 2017 (8th day to be specific), in a comment to @Rae.
I’ve cover a little on adding internet subscription time, it’s process with some special insights for anyone as a member to consider.
I’ve said then, and have edited it now to be very helpful for everyone as a PCs For People member,
“If it’s close to ‘Add More Time’ on your Internet subscription”
1. When your logged in there at PCs For People in your account,
https://pcsrefurbished.com/login.aspx?ReturnUrl=%2faccount%2fmyOrders.aspx
2. On the right hand side look for “My Account”-(that’s underlined) for it’s menu listings column, and the 3rd one down in this list use
(clicking on) “My Internet” link under that main heading underlined as “My Account”.
A page opens to INTERNET, with View and add time to your subscriptions. **
There you’ll see Five options ** or less to add any of these amounts in internet subscription time.
Select one and click on the “ADD TO CART”.
”’Also you’ll see here your ID:, Start Date:, Renewal Date:, and Expiration Date: of your membership and subscription.”’
[ you’ll also notice – the TWO new subscription time period options as a member now – you didn’t see being offered to you in your initial sign up of the subscription and modem purchase **].
3. Have all your current documented eligibility proof * ready to upload for your subscription time period** your going to purchase in adding internet subscription time to your account.
[Special insights and of considerations for Members to know]
It’s your choice to USE any ONE of those 5 allotment time periods ** to get you JUST ENOUGH TIME – till the next full site sales again, coming on Black Friday and Cyber Monday. IF WE’LL SEE them offered to us again – I believe BF was a 15% off site wide and CM was to a 10% off site wide – sale and savings.
Just kind of my own heads up for you to a pre-savings possibility coming our way, as we’ve seen last year at that time.
In my own personal case – I’ll have to use the single months a couple of times to extend my subscription to getting into November.
*You must provide new proof of eligibility once per year and/or in adding to your accounts subscription time.
**Each account has a maximum up to 15 months prepaid internet subscription being possible, so not everyone’s account in the additional months of 3, 6, 12, etc… increments may be visible to every existing PCs For People clients.
Taken with your understanding that only a maximum in 15 months can be prepaid then – you’ll see offered at that point to your remaining good time left, there will be monthly increments only offered to bringing you as close or to that maximum of 15 months.
My final words here-
Cheap Internet is in no way affiliated with PCs For People, the Cheap Internet website graciously brings their readers news and savings in any cheap internet deals to all who visits their website.
Just happens this is one of those articles loaded with information and links back to the source for those who are eligible…
PCs For People users (as myself) and readers of Cheap Internet’s site, are able to comment, possibly helping out readers here to understand, by offering our help to anyone in need of – again volunteering to aid other users as we’re mere users paying for PCs For People internet service ourselves.
Rebecca don’t get frustrated, Please ask for someone to help you if you’ve missed understanding something.
Steve
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
Thanks, Steve. Our readers always appreciate your comments.
Rebecca Flanagan says
No where on this site could I find where I could add more months to my existing account. Very frustrating!
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
Jeez, Rebecca, this website is called CheapInternet.com, not PCsForPeople.com. Our job is to tell you the basics about each of the low-income service providers. For more details visit the service provider’s website.
Rae says
Had my first “bummer” moment with P4P. Renewed service at the one year mark. Internet wouldn’t stay connected, rebooted, didn’t clear up. On the phone with Sprint technical for 3 hours, they were unable to push through an update that should have been done. Said the hotspot was defective. At almost exactly 1 year. Just purchased a new one from P4P and hope to get more than a year out of it. Bummer!
Steve- I believe you mentioned doing an update as soon as the hotspot arrives- I will do that to be sure there is no issue that would not be discovered until 11 months later! And thanks for all the info you provide here.
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
Wow, Steve, you’re getting fan mail now.
Steve says
Do you charge a fee for the relay service : ) Ha, he he, hope not as it could become expensive for myself.
Thanks,
Steve
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
Just another free service courtesy of the magnanimous folks at CheapInternet.com.
Steve says
Magnanimous, indispensable, spontaneous, refinemental agent, procurator to the best information out there…
: )
Steve
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
You’re a smooth talker, Mr. Steve.
Steve says
@Rae says July 25, 2017
Could you please inform us of what model Hotspot failed in it’s service.
What’s the new one’s model is that you’ve replaced it with?
I’m sorry for your misfortunes, but I was to understand the Hotspots carried a manufactures warranty for a year, was this not the case with yours?
I’d probably would of hung up on Sprint’s tech service and called another day and time frame as apposed to the last. Giving a 30 minute window for something useful to be discovered. Then if not asking to speak to a tech supervisor for help.
This old hotspot, I go to the Sprint community and see if others have experienced troubles with that brand and model.
https://www.sprint.com/search/?query=hotspots&category=all&page=1
Also look in FreedomPop’s community for same, and if there is a Boost community as well for any knowledge here.
https://forums.freedompop.com/us/search?Search=hotspot&=Go
https://community.boostmobile.com/t5/WiFi-Hotspot-Accessories/ct-p/hotspot
Do a general search engine search of the model and brand with key words and failed – failure used.
Though late now and not knowing your brand and model hotspot – the actual trouble you’ve had, I guess this info. will only be useful for the new one.
From your PCs For People hotspot’s Web Interface, a Factory Reset is possible, as well as update profile. I’ve told how to get there in comment July 19, 2017 at 11:46 am below.
Were P4P compensating in any way? Discounting the new Hotspot any?
Then I be a little extra critical in evaluating the new Hotspot as noting the money back return policy, and warranty periods.
Modem Return Policy:
Items must be returned within 7 days from the date the device is received.
Mobile Beacon currently provides a 60-day hardware warranty through the network provider and a one year limited warranty is provided by the device manufacturer. The warranty starts from the date a device is activated on behalf PCs for People, not when the device is received by the end user. PCs for People provides device support, but does not provide warranty replacement for internet devices.
Sounds troublesome to me as when hotspot becomes activated on behalf PCs for People, to start the two warranties???
Please keep us informed – ok : )
Steve
Steve says
Here’s something interesting I’ve ran across on another site.
Note – this reflects only the “Data part” of the cell carriers, as your PCs For People Internet subscription is basically supplied through Sprint, which P4P only utilizes the Data portion of Sprint’s service…
The main players here were all offering once – in a close ballpark GB’s allowances, but as you can see in 2017 seems T-Mobile has changes things up… Will the other follow suite, especially Sprint?
Your guess is better than mine probably, though if AT&T at least climbed on board to offer more GB’s before any kind of network management happens – then I’d expect Sprint most likely following in these footsteps too.
[ Sprint considers 23 GB unlimited 4G LTE, T-Mobile 32 GB, after that data speeds can vary based on how busy the network is. T-Mobile and Sprint call this data prioritization. AT&T and Verizon enable data prioritization after 22 GB ] (Special Note- T-Mobile leads by almost 10GB’s more now).
If your hoping that if… SPRINT was to remain at the same GB’s, then would PCs For People move to T-Mobile as a mobile Data supplier for it’s programs access offered to it’s Internet subscribers. Not a chance as I understand it.
The one fact that remains, is that PC’s For People only works and it’s being priced as it is because of it’s relationship/partnership with Mobile Beacon. The Internet service will always be Unlimited and these GB’s mentioned above are only to reflect a “”network management policy””, where as if many users in one neighborhood or on one of the mobile network towers becomes a heavy load in demand to it, then users who have used less then the stated amounts in GB’s above will have priority on the said tower.
BACKGROUND-
“In 2012, PCs for People partnered with nonprofit Mobile Citizen and Mobile Beacon to offer low-cost, unlimited data internet through Clear. Clients could now afford to go online with the PCs and laptops they received. This greatly expanded our organization, with thousands of new clients signing up for internet each year — some connecting at home for the first time.
In early 2016, we expanded our coverage to use the Sprint network to help provide better coverage and faster speeds. Our nationwide customers can access unlimited data at 4G LTE speeds.”
It’s really a good read of the whole “About Us”
https://www.pcsforpeople.com/about-us/our-story
QUESTION-
Can the current administration or the FCC do something to change this? I’m guess anything is possible, but the forgoing legal hurdles and fact that 1,820 nonprofits, 429 schools, and 61 libraries across the country are served by Mobile Beacon, leads me to think that any finial decision would be up to the courts, not the FCC or anyone else.
Brief History review-
Mobile Beacon and Mobile Citizen have provided unlimited broadband service for just $10 a month to schools, libraries and nonprofit organizations across the country on Clearwire’s WiMax network, which was subsequently acquired by Sprint. Sprint had planned to shut down the WiMax network this past November, until a Massachusetts state court stepped in on the eve of the shutdown to put a three-month hold on Sprint’s plan and preserve Internet access for Mobile Beacon and Mobile Citizen’s community of users.
The nonprofit entities that created Mobile Citizen and Mobile Beacon are among the largest Educational Broadband Service (EBS) providers in the United States. EBS refers to spectrum the Federal Communications Commission reserved to serve the public interest by providing wireless broadband services in support of education. The nonprofits that make up Mobile Citizen and Mobile Beacon leased a portion of their spectrum to Clearwire for 30 years in 2006 in exchange for the ability to provide high-speed broadband service to schools, libraries and nonprofit organizations across the United States.
http://blog.mobilebeacon.org/court-grants-motion-by-nonprofits-and-sprint-to-extend-wimax-service-through-march/
Steve
Steve says
Looks like PCs For People has a new Hotspot offered on it’s site now !
The ZTE Warp Connect, 4G LTE-capable with USB Tethering.
Linux, Mac and Windows friendly, up to 10 hours of battery life on a single charge, connect up to 10 WiFi devices on-the-go.
Your PCs For People hotspots ZTE Warp Connect, Franklin R850, and the no longer available Netgear Fuse, is a Wi-Fi router for up to 10 devices, so there is something to consider in setting it up securely, you don’t want someone else close by using your hotspots ability to connect to the web/internet through your PCs For People internet subscription.
If your security is set to None or Open which is an unsecured mode, you’re using no authentication or encryption. Anyone can join your Wi-Fi network, use your Internet connection, access any shared resource on your network, and read any traffic you send over the network. Using an unsecured network is not recommended.
The Wi-Fi Security Options of your hotspot controls the type of authentication and encryption used by your Wi-Fi router (your PCs For People hotspot), which allows you to control access to the network and specify the level of privacy for data you send over the air.
A. Your PCs For People hotspot has a Web Interface, on a computer connected to the internet via the PCs For People hotspot, open a browser window and type in
For ZTE Warp Connect Hotspot – http://192.168.128.1 or http://myhotspot
For R850 Mobile Hotspots – http://myhotspot or http://192.168.128.1
For Fuse AC779S hotspots – http://MyHotSpot or http://192.168.1.1
into the address bar and press enter.
@ Franklin Wireless R850 (aka) R850 Mobile Hotspot.
B. The Mobile Hotspot home page opens for your PCs For People hotspot. Here you can manage, monitor, and customize your device settings of your PCs For People hotspot.
(These (A.,B.) are included in the hotspot device box, in the paperwork sent with your order.)
But sadly that’s as far as it goes as to what’s covered in your hotspot Web Interface.
@ see the below for links (Part 2) to your devices users guide and about this Web Interface.
Go ahead and click around in the Web Interface of your PCs For People hotspot to get accustom of all it offers to you, being careful not to change anything for now.
1. I would advise you to change the current password which is likely a default password ! As well in editing the Main or Guest WiFi names to be distinct and original to you, and is visible to other WiFi-enabled devices around you (your neighbors can see them possibly and losing the Sprint name part – to something more generic is better.)
2. Check if you have any new software update for the hotspot device, since it was a sealed packaged sent to you, chances are it had a long shelf life and a new update may be available.
3. See what the security settings of authentication and encryption that’s used by your Wi-Fi router (hotspot) setting is, and change it to the most secure, which allows you to control access to the network and specify the level of privacy for data you send over the air.
Part 1
Steve says
About the ZTE Warp Connect Hotspot Web UI Window from the left menu > Using Your Device > Web UI Overview
https://www.pcsrefurbished.com/Docs/userGuide_zte_warp_connect.pdf
About the R850 Mobile Hotspot Web UI Window from the left menu > Settings > Web UI Window.
https://www.pcsrefurbished.com/Docs/userGuide_R850.pdf
About the Fuse AC779S Hotspot Web UI Window from the left menu > Settings > Mobile Hotspot Manager Overview
https://www.pcsrefurbished.com/Docs/userGuide_Netgear_Fuse.pdf
Here you can see your users guides – (better to download/print off your user guide in pdf format to have on hand).
I find these for security settings of the different Hotspots PCs For People has offered.
ZTE Warp Connect (Modes)
OPEN = Authentication and encryption won’t be performed. There are risks that private info will be intercepted or network will be used by unauthorized individuals.
WPA2-PSK = It is the securer version of WPA with implementation of the 802.11i standard.
Franklin Wireless R850 (Modes)
OPEN = Authentication and encryption won’t be performed. There are risks that private info will be intercepted or network will be used by unauthorized individuals.
SHARED = Authentication via Shared Key protocol.
WPA2-PSK = WPA-PSK is the securer version of WPA with implementation of the 802.11i standard.
WPA-PSK/WPA2-PSK = Apply both the WPA-PSK and WPA2-PSK scheme.
Netgear Fuse AC779S (Modes)
None = No security is used (no password is required to access the WiFi network); this setting is not recommended. Anyone may access your device and use your Internet connection.
WPA2 Personal AES = This is a stronger, newer security standard that is limited to newer WiFi devices.
WPA/WPA2 = (recommended setting if any of your devices are more than two years old) – WiFi devices that use either WPA or WPA2 can connect to the NETGEAR Fuse Mobile Hotspot.
–Note: The out-of-the-box configuration for most wireless networking equipment provided easy (but insecure) access to a wireless network.
–Note: [WPA2-PSK , short for Wi-Fi Protected Access 2 – Pre-Shared Key, and also called WPA or WPA2 Personal, it is a method of securing your network using WPA2 with the use of the optional Pre-Shared Key (PSK) authentication, which was designed for home users without an enterprise authentication server.]
–NOTE: It can be affirmed that a 12-character Wi-Fi network password cannot be decipher using today’s computing capabilities, since the time required to crack the password grows exponentially. Though longer is always better…
Change password periodically: Both home and corporate Wi-Fi WPA passwords should be changed from time to time. 12-character passwords should be changed every 6 months.
https://www.acrylicwifi.com/en/blog/is-a-wpawpa2-wi-fi-network-secure/
–Note: WPA2 Personal AES is currently the strongest form of security offered by Wi-Fi products, and is recommended for all uses. When enabling WPA2 Personal AES, be sure to select a strong password that can’t be guessed by third parties.
Part 2
Steve
Kathie Fields says
Is there a place in Arvada Colo to go and sign up for low cost internet
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
No, Kathie, you must enroll online or by phone.
Steve says
Not actually true, this would be the case for anyone not close to one of PCs for People offices. Website has in Store and Online pricing for the internet and modem.
https://www.pcsforpeople.com/recipients/low-cost-internet
These are where their offices are located:
Colorado – (one location)
Denver, CO Office
1548 W Alameda Ave Unit C, Denver, CO 80223
denver@pcsforpeople.org
720-278-7725
Minnesota – (four locations)
Brainerd, MN Office
723 Washington Street, Brainerd, MN 56401
brainerd@pcsforpeople.org
218-454-0009
Grand Rapids, MN Office
KOOTASCA Community Action, 811 NE 4th Street, Grand Rapids, MN 55744
grandrapids@pcsforpeople.org
218-999-5883
Mankato, MN Office
500 South Broad Street, Mankato, MN 56001
Andy.Elofson@blueearthcountymn.gov
507-665-1535
St Paul, MN Office (Headquarters)
1481 Marshall Ave, St. Paul, MN 55104
info@pcsforpeople.org
651-354-2552
Fax: 651-666-1045
-mailing addresses, email addresses, and phone numbers are above…
PCs for People offers affordable computer repair to eligible recipients who already own a computer *. Participants can bring in a computer and have it repaired for $25. *This service is offered by the offices in St. Paul, MN; Denver, CO; and Mankato, MN.
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
You are correct, Steve. An oversight on our part.
Steve says
Didn’t mean to split hairs : ), you were correct for a national populous. Then again I don’t know the distance from Arvada to Denver Colorado.
Which by the way you got any data of the poorest states – or – their main populous being low-income ?
I would think, (dare to Dream), that PCs For People could work out some kind of deal in these states with a majority populous being low-income. Having office / warehouse space donated or extremely bargain priced for a long term lease, then to open up branches of the business there – growing a network of offices.
I’m looking at Churches, Schools, Libraries and downtown retail space owned by community leaders and municipalities getting involved.
I’m thinking if an office space had enough space to house the needed staff workers and keep enough stock to service 50 families a week for a month.
Then strategically locate a main warehouse-recycle center to outreach in supplying four to eight offices up to 700-1200 miles away in a local network.
Also this warehouse being a recycle hub for the national network in collections of PCs and all the other services for businesses outside of the low-income realm and thus feeding a supply of replenished stock of used PCs and growth in more offices.
Hope PCs For People got their ears on.
Steve
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
Let’s see if the good folks at PCs for People respond to you, Steve.
Steve says
Don’t pay extra for texts and calls if you don’t need them!
So what exactly am I meaning? As we all need the usage in texts and calls possibly at some point… It’s my point of these cell phone charges and that cell carriers bill – I’m referring too.
We all know modern smartphones are just tiny tablets housing a mighty computer with a phone number. But if you were to start texting and calling using internet apps, then all you’d need is the data part of a data SIM connection.
That’s basically what the PCs For People’s Hotspot offers you. Linking your phones to the P4P Hotspot (wireless devices-as smartphones are via WiFi) and with the appropriate installed calling/texting app(s) on your smartphones to utilize that data connection then. Your smartphone could lose the bill and your cell providers SIM card as well. Most internet (data) calling/texting app(s) gives you a new free phone number as well with it’s installition.
Just as important then as a smartphones battery is – so becomes the P4P Hotspot to complete this arrangement, but being separated of the phone you’ll have to remember to pack it along with you.
I believe it won’t become as cumbersome once you get in the habit of doing so and in saving those extra dollars from not paying a cell phone bill.
This is just a general sense of what’s possible with a PCs For People’s Hotspot and Internet subscription, I won’t go into the specifics – the internets there for that of your questions and the answers it holds, I may answer a general question here and there along these lines though.
Cheap Internets Team may well answer if it’s something they care too.
Steve
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
Steve’s comments are always full of great advice. If any readers are interested, they should scroll down to read all his previous PCs for People posts.
Steve says
@Rae
So good to hear that 🙂 , most if not all who come over to PCs For People feel the same. Indeed just what I needed and with costs inline with my budget.
If it’s close to “Add More Time” on your Internet subscription, when logged in there at P4P in your account, on the right hand menu use “My Internet” you’ll notice the TWO new options as a member you didn’t see when offered in the initial signing up.
Use any of those allotment term periods to get you enough time to the periods of the full site sales again, coming on BlackFriday and CyberMonday. If we’ll see them offered again to us – I believe BF was 15% off and CM 10% off. Just kind of a heads up to a pre-savings possibility coming our way.
Have your current documented eligibility proof ready to upload for your subscription term period purchase. Enjoy what you’ve come to know of PCs For People, service and price.
Just some thoughts, have you used the Hotspot outside of your home with a Laptop or Smartphone cell phone? Traveling or road trips – just visiting a friend and/or relative without internet access you still be able to connect within the Sprint National Network.
If you keep the hotspot by a window at home while connected to your PC – you’ll have better signal receptions.
Pass the word on to eligible friends and relatives about your experiences with PCs For People.
Thanks, Steve
Rae says
I am just shy of 1 year of service and have never regretted going to PCs for People. I have had to reboot the hot spot occasionally, but at this price I can darned well get out of my chair and complete that task! Steve, you were right a year ago-I am as pleased with this service today as I was a year ago.
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
More well deserved accolades for Steve.
Steve says
1 Day left – PCs For People 10% off Deals run till 5/13/2017
11:59PM Central time.
New and existing PCs For People clients can purchase or renew internet subscriptions plans. Purchase Computers, Accessories, everything at 10% off Using the Coupon code – digitalinclusion10
Might be the only sale we’ll see till later on in the year…(..;
Steve
Steve says
[Comcast Paid Civil Rights Groups To Support Killing Broadband Privacy Rules]
For years, one of the greasier lobbying and PR tactics by the telecom industry has been the use of minority groups to parrot awful policy positions. Historically, such groups are happy to take financing from a company like Comcast, in exchange for repeating whatever talking point memos are thrust in their general direction, even if the policy being supported may dramatically hurt their constituents. This strategy has played a starring role in supporting anti-consumer mega-mergers, killing attempts to make the cable box market more competitive, and efforts to eliminate net neutrality.
The goal is to provide an artificial wave of “support” for bad policies, used to then justify bad policy votes. And despite this being something the press has highlighted for the better part of several decades, the practice continues to work wonders. Heck, pretending to serve minority communities while effectively undermining them with bad internet policy is part of the reason Comcast now calls top lobbyist David Cohen the company’s Chief Diversity Officer – something the folks at Comcast hate when it’s out, by the way.
It’s noted how Congress voted to kill relatively modest but necessary FCC privacy protections. You’d be hard pressed to find a single, financially-objective group or person that supports such a move. Even Donald Trump’s most obnoxious supporters were relatively disgusted by the vote. Yet it’s noted that groups like the League of United Latin American Citizens and the OCA (Asian Pacific American Advocates) breathlessly urged the FCC to kill the rules, arguing that snoopvertising and data collection would be a great boon to low income families, told the FCC that “many consumers, especially households with limited incomes, appreciate receiving relevant advertising that is keyed to their interests and provides them with discounts on the products and services they use.”
Of course, folks like Senator Ted Cruz then used this entirely-farmed support to insist there were “strenuous objections from throughout the internet community” at the creation of the rules, which simply wasn’t true. Most people understood that the rules were a direct response to some reckless and irresponsible privacy practices at major ISPs — ranging from charging consumers more to keep their data private, or using customer credit data to provide even worse customer support than they usually do.
Yes, what consumer (minority or otherwise) wants to pay significantly more money for absolutely no coherent reason?
This kind of co-opting still somehow doesn’t get much attention in the the press or policy circles, so it continues to work wonders. And it will continue to work wonders as the administration shifts its gaze from gutting privacy protections to killing net neutrality.
FYI, Steve
Steve says
If Edward Snowden has done nothing but to open our eyes, let you not be the one to close your ears to the poor and low-incomes in America.
Today it’s known for a fact that our own government agencies and foreign governments as well internet hackers the web over are monitoring our American lives.
It should not be a given just to trust our own Governments and American companies using our information and that data for their own purposes (profits), these pools of data’s collected on us can and do get hacked into.
Just think back not long ago State IDs and Driver Licenses had our SSN’s on them and mostly to public exposure – that all changed for the privacy in/of ourselves as the standard being used and our private internet usage should too.
I truly believe in our American way and rights and then our right to internet usage being as private, just the same as it is of a Federal Crime to open a letter (addressed to someone else) sent using the USPS, our personal internet usage should be protected, but still it’s not seen as being private as our own selves.
Over half of Americans homes have not a landline telephone system anymore being replaced by smartphones, so what medium is used as a basic transmission bases (the mobile Internet), I’d also bet that the number is higher for emails and texts messages that’s replacing most people mailing a postage letter to someone noadays. As more and more companies and businesses adopt e-communications, even Federal, State and Local governments, our cities utilities all moving to an online presents for business and their customer communications today.
FACT
Messages older than 180 days can be seized by authorities. Current legislation, that was written three years before the World Wide Web was invented, allows the warrantless collection of citizens’ emails. The Electronic Communications Privacy Act allows authorities to “be able to get Americans’ e-mail, or their documents stored online that are more than six months old, without having to acquire a judge’s permission, as long as the authorities promise it is ‘relevant’ to a criminal investigation.” Even with a secure or private email service, this legislation is valid with blanket warrants from government agencies seeking access to all user data.
A common practice among companies is using HTML to create an attractive and effective email message. They use this formatting to include eye-catching images, but those images may be stored on a web server that your email client andor online email service connects to in order to download them. When this happens, the sender of the message may be able to find out information about you. Just by opening the email and letting these images load, the sender may be able to determine if your email address is active and working, that you opened the message, and that of your IP address.
Congress has sold off your privacy—and U.S. security, the only remaining step is a signature from the President, which will certainly come. If certain data collected by ISPs land in the hands of foreign hacking groups or hostile foreign governments, it could quickly become blackmail means and disrupt the normal function of our government and society. This is not an exaggeration. Anyone paying the slightest attention to the smoke billowing from Capitol Hill and the White House would be foolish to dismiss this possibility. Moreover, foreign governments wouldn’t have to hack anything to get this data They could simply buy it.
First, data that’s collected on internet use by an individual or household, even if distributed in an “anonymized” fashion but with unique identifiers, can ultimately be traced back to that individual or a household. We need only to look at the AOL search data leak in 2006 to see how simple this is.
Second, ISPs can collect a lot of data from their customers, even if the customers access encrypted sites. DNS queries sent to ISP servers or even third-party DNS servers can be used to determine which sites are accessed. That alone may be sensitive information. Many sites do not use encryption, so all data transactions can be cataloged. Email that is stored on ISP servers can be mined for information. Email transmitted through insecure means (common, unfortunately) could be fair game.
Final thoughts, in 2017 allowing ISPs to monetize and distribute data on their users is no different than having someone follow you around all day recording your every move, then selling that information. ISPs control internet access and can see every packet sent to or from their users, not only the traffic that’s sent to or from certain websites like Facebook and Google. Sure, many popular sites track your moves, but you’re not their paying customer, and they don’t literally know where you live or own the data connections to your home.
Also—this is very important in most locations in the United States, only one ISP offers reasonable internet services and bandwidth. In many other US locations, you cannot opt out of this privacy invasion by signing up with a competitor because there is no competitor. The only reason the FCC ISP privacy rules should be reversed is to put in much stronger privacy protections. Outright reversal holds no benefit for any U.S. citizen or our national security, it only serves the voracious appetites of the major ISPs. That they have paid their people in congress well with the profits made from us their customers.
Steve
Steve says
Ok I get that it’s above your tech expertise, but it shouldn’t be above your interets either, as your business-presonal (ISP) IP’s are your addresses where your own internet connection starts and ends to your on-line activity!
Then Open up an article and topic here such as (Internet Privacy – is there such a thing), for users supported information (a stating place) and in time who knows how fast and popular it will become for not only low-income Americans but all Americans as well as your staff too. Knowledge is a power and needs a forum – at least a topic and related comments here on your site.
Steve
Steve says
Steve here and I have a few questions for Cheap Internet ADMIN’S.
Given you bring (us readers) news and knowledge of Low-Income Americans Internet Opportunities afforded to them.
Which one medium is more secure and private to the ever growing trend to PROFILING and DATA COLLECTION of Internet users? Then with the FCC rules roll back – reversal, this is a true article and information of each one you could offer us.
Cable box modems setups or Mobile hotspot modems setups, both in nature – which one is not only cheap, but respects the users privacy the most being our given ISP?
Then of each separate medium group of ISP’s, (getting online), how do the low-income American providers you list (hardwired and mobile) stack up against each other to their users privacy and of personal tracking in their reflected Internet offering?
This is a most important and serious topic in 2017 and going forward, I’d like to see your site cover it, as well in the break-downs as your already covering of each one provider.
It’s already known – If one uses “free” – software, browsers and extensions, email accounts it should be understood that if it’s free – it’s only because you have become the product that enables it to be offered to you for free. Your being personally profiled and data is collected (stored for a long time) as well as your being tracked across the web as you surf. User profiling and Data collection is a Multi-Billion dollar business today.
So could you please include this in your break-downs of the Internet providers your already covering and offering us. Give us articles as well, to news and the stink of these business in policies and practice of cheap internet deals your bring us, to cover the whole gauntlet to better help us understand and protect ourselves. As Cheap Internet has the same loss of privacy as “FREE” of yesterday.
Thank you, Steve
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
You’re asking us for info that’s waaaaaay beyond our tech expertise, Steve. We can tell you all about the various programs, but we would not feel comfortable advising anyone on profiling and data protection.
Steve says
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New and existing PCs For People clients can purchase or renew internet subscriptions plans.
New Internet Customers can purchase a 4G LTE modem ($74.95) and a prepaid Internet subscription plan. Subscriptions start at $10 per month and can be purchased in 3 month, 6 month and 12 month increments.
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PCs For People 10% off Deals till 5/13/2017 – 11:59PM Central time.
(Just use the “Categories Tab” and from the drop down “Menu” choose your topic of interests. Desktops / Laptops / Accessories / Get Internet)
Dell Optiplex 7010 Desktop Full Set and Sprint LTE Bundle for $160 / shows 24 items in stock!
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phone – 651-354-2552 / Phone support is open 10:00 AM to 5:30 PM Central Time Monday-Friday.
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Steve
Steve says
Hey everybody PCs For People is having a 10% Off it’s Entire Site to Celebrate Digital Inclusion Week.
Computers, Internet Subscription plans, Accessories, everything at 10% off using the coupon code through 5/13/2017 !
Using the Coupon code – digitalinclusion10 , as it’s shown here select the item(s) you wish to purchase and enter the coupon code in the box provided for it at checkout.
Steve
Steve says
@ Casey Sorensen Executive Director for PCs for People
I’m Honored twice over, once for your recognition here and a second for my belated discount.
Since you can more or less figure out who I’m, (not my pen name here), I’ve submitted a few questions to your CS Manager (A.S.)
in pdf form towards the end of last year. I haven’t received any reply of a follow up. I used the medium of a pdf, so if needed it could passed on to the PCs For People lead team. The password I’d given it was easy as it was all numbers, the first four headquarters street address and followed by the last four digits of the companies phone number all together with no spaces.
Congrats to everyone at PCs For People on reaching and having customers in all 50 US States. The surpassing of a year’s anniversary to your online sales website, where you’ve made it possible in that reaching out to all customers in the Sprint National coverage area with your Internet subscriptions plans.
As well as being the best Internet deal going for low-income American’s ! : ) “Period”
Thank You All,
Steve
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
The recognition is well-deserved, Steve. Bravo!
Casey Sorensen says
Steve,
Thank you for all the help volunteering to answer questions here, we greatly appreciate the support. A family from Alaska recently placed an order, so we have now delivered computers and internet to all 50 States (and Puerto Rico). Volunteers have made much of this possible and helped to connect thousands of homes. If you are ever in St. Paul stop by as we owe you a thank you and a beer if you choose (in addition to your belated Black Friday discount) ;).
Thank you,
Casey Sorensen
Executive Director
PCs for People
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
Wow! What a compliment for you, Steve. We appreciate him, too, Casey.
A Nonimus says
Just stumbled upon this, but I too appreciate him… for all the important detailed yet understandable information.
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
Hey, Steve, you’re getting a fan club! Next it will be groupies.
Steve says
@Lynn – 14, 2017 at 3:37 pm/April 15, 2017 at 1:44 pm
Q.- Any suggestions for VOIP service using this internet service?
Q.- What about for phone service?
A.- Nope – I suggest you please direct questions like these to PCs For People customer service personally.
Phone support is open 10:00 AM to 5:30 PM Central Time Monday-Friday. 651-354-2552.
Go to VOIP providers or community forums of them and ask these questions – your perfectly free to comment right here on your findings.
I refer you to “Steve says January 21, 2017 at 5:31 am”
I will only answer PCs For Peoples service questions if I’m able… I’m not wanting to Highjack this article and I Will Not Answer Your Questions to the Related information.
Then by the same eligibility requirements you’ve met in your account with PCs For People, your probably also eligible for a Free Government Cell Phone in the Lifeline program, which Cheap Internet sister site is of a vast amount of information – to go about in achieving that Free Phone and Free Monthly service setup.
http://www.freegovernmentcellphones.net/basics/qualify
Just follow through the steps/pages there of the information and hopefully you’ll be on your way to a free phone with free monthly service through the Lifeline Program.
Sorry that’s all I’ve got. . . : )
Steve
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
Good advice, Steve.
Lynn says
Any suggestions for VOIP service using this internet service? Basic landline service is $30 after fees and taxes. Currently paying $74 a month for standard internet (25 Mbps) and basic phone through Spectrum but that will be going up in a few months. I only need internet fast enough to handle streaming and basic phone service. I don’t want to cancel with Spectrum until I know I can get those services cheaper.
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
Any one of the plans listed on our Low-Income Internet page will give you far better prices, Lynn. Check them all out at this link:
https://www.cheapinternet.com/low-income-internet
Lynn says
What about for phone service? Any idea what VOIP phone service would work best with this internet service? Both Ooma and Magicjack seem possible (with up front equipment fees), but not sure which would work better with a hotspot or has better ratings.
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
We don’t mind admitting that we know absolutely nothing about Ooma or MagicJack. Maybe Steve has an answer.
Steve says
@SHIRLEY – April 12, 2017 at 9:54/11:18 pm
Q.- does this 4g internet work with laptops and tv internet?
A.- Yes, all devices (to 10 each in total count from the P4P Hotspot Modem), if they are to have Wi-Fi capabilities/functions, plus your able to connect one device (PC/Router) by the USB cable supplied, to devices with a USB port for a Hard-Wired connection from the Hotspot Modem sold by P4P (but only one cable connect can be made).
[I don’t know about a Router (your own equipment) being used – if then, a (Router) would allow more connections possible to Hard-Wired or Wi-Fi’s of it’s own features/capabilities to connections past the 10 total that the P4P Hotspot allows. (Router X’s ? connections)
I seem to think that the P4P Hotspot Modem is only limited to 10 total connections each by it’s online Hotspot Manager UI webpage interface, that are the actual settings part to control it, change or setup the PCs For People Hotspot Modem itself.]
Q.- I don’t quite understand the difference between cable internet and this?
A.- Price for the 1st difference, portability for a 2nd.
This is Wireless as the P4P Modem is a Hotspot device used on the
Sprint’s Network, with a data SIM card installed. This is mobile in nature and is closely related like that of cell phones method used in a Towers reception in your neighborhood to a device able to pull in that signal, except it’s for a data only signal, no calls function here. No hardwire connection is needed at all like in cable companies setups and unlike a hardwired (cable company) modem you can connect outside of the home as well. (neighbors house, parks, on the road, etc…)
[Key factor here is you must be within the Sprint network coverage areas.]
“The reference” to you can’t bring your own equipment is only meant to the modem that is receiving the Sprint Data signal, as you can’t connect with anything of your own to draw in the Sprint Data signal and use the PCs For People Internet service. It must be purchased from P4P and be registered to the P4P Business account we all share in this set up. The Hotspot must be registered with identification numbers and have a Data SIM registered back to PCs For People Business Account. Anything you would hook up to/after this P4P Hotspot Modem can and should be your own equipment – up to 10 each, to then draw this Sprint Data Internet signal from the Hotspot.
I hope this answered all your questions and the phone line you’ve mentioned is not important as I’ve covered that with my other answers, I hope.
Additional questions please direct them to PCs For People customer service personally. (I’m a volunteer here answering posted questions).
Get lost – don’t understand, have additional questions.
Phone support is open 10:00 AM to 5:30 PM Central Time Monday-Friday. 651-354-2552
Most emails are returned within 24 hours.
sales@pcsforpeople.org
P4P = PCs For People (above) as typing it all the time uses space.
Thanks, Steve
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
Thorough as always, Steve. Thanks.
SHIRLEY says
I dont quite understand the difference between cable internet and this..is the modem you purchase like a wireless router. it says you cant bring your own equipment. does that mean your laptop. or just the router/modem. do you have to have a phone line? I looked on thier website but couldnt find the answer there..im 59 and techy challenged…thanks
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
We always defer to reader Steve on PCs for People questions. Your turn, Steve.
Henry says
I have used the PCs 4 People service for over five years and will try to answer your questions. Sorry for the late response.
The PCs 4 People service uses a hotspot device, not a modem. Your computer (or smart phone or TV) has a wireless modem inside it which picks up the signal broadcast by the hotspot. This service is not BYOD, so you cannot bring in your hotspot obtained from another source. They assign a phone number to your service (referred to as a PTN) which identifies your device to the WiFi carrier. If you have issues with your service, you need to provide this phone number to the tech support rep. This service is handled by WiFi tower signals to the hotspot. Unlike WiFi service that you use in McDonald’s or Starbucks restaurants, this form of WiFi is encrypted and not available to outside users. Your phone line is not part of this type of WiFi service. There is no dial up or DSL connection involved. As for cable internet, satellite internet, FIOS internet services, these are direct wired lines going to your home which then connects to a router to broadcast the signal within your home. Having a direct line to your home allows a stronger signal to be provided for the internet service (hence, the 1 GB + speeds that they promote all the time). You can download a high definition movie in seconds with these services. With regular WiFi from a tower, it will take longer to download the same movie file. WiFi service has its limitations (barriers such as buildings, trees, etc.,) which can degrade the signal to your hotspot. The location of your hotspot and your residence are critical factors in receiving a good signal to go on the internet. For some people, the WiFi signal is too weak to be of any good to them.
SHIRLEY says
does this 4g internet work with laptops and tv internet..Im tired of paying 50 plus a month and now having data caps with armstrong cable. but dont know if this will work as we want to be cord cutters
and just use netflix, and playstation vue plus two laptops..
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
Steve?
Henry says
This is a WiFi based tower signal that is received through a hotspot type of connection. Any computer (desktop, laptop, smart tv with a wireless modem connected to it) can get access to the WiFi signal. Note that cable internet will ALWAYS be faster than through WiFi internet service. WiFi signals can be blocked by many things outside of your home (as well as inside your home). You do not have this same problem with cable service direct from an underground line. Depending on your location, you may see loss of speeds as much as 75% or more than your previous cable internet speeds by switching to WiFi. While this type of service is MUCH cheaper than cable internet, you get what you pay for. Do not expect the same download speeds like for cable internet service. This type of service is a HUGE improvement over dial up internet which is restricted to 56K bps speed. I used dial up internet for a long time over 10 years ago. It was S-L-O-W and often kept disconnecting many times. Webpages would take a long time to load. Downloading a high definition movie file would probably take several days. LOL
Steve says
Just a Heads Up with the Tax time dead line and returns coming back to some, then time for others to bank some funds for the additional discounts we saw last year from PCs For People at Black Friday, Cyber Monday, and in advance of Christmas holiday on the 9th to 11th. These make further discounts on a site wide bases to an additional 10-15% off – that’s on everything they offer, accessories, computers and subscriptions. So if you can put something away now to be prepared for that time…
On subscriptions you can only pre-pay for up to 15 months, and usually requires to submit eligibility documents prior to the 12 month recertify periods, and is also related to anything involving Microsoft products like computers for your documents submittals.
This next bit of news may or may not work, I’m sure if someone brings it to PCs For People attention it will be fixed.
A loop hole or an over looked function of the cart there at P4P opportunity I have discovered, as I had no money when these November sales ran last year.
I added the discount Internet subscription term I was allowed to add to my cart (remember you can’t have more than 15 months pre-paid)-(but also you have to use the 3, 6, or 12 months increments). Then I also removed my Credit/Debit card on file – so I wouldn’t be mistakenly charged – I don’t know if this made any difference, but it’s what I did anyways.
I just left the discounted term of the subscription period in my PCs For People cart – (let it ride), till I had to renew for sure, as I had no months left – just days.
Here’s the best part – when I logged in to my P4P account and seen my cart still reflected the discounted sale price to the months I did add back some 4-5 months ago, I checked out with that, I didn’t risk adding more or changing my cart value in anyway.
I added my card back to my account and checked out to only pay for those discounted months. A discount then on an already good deal that PCs For People gives – but months later than first offered.
Will it work for you – who knows and like I said if someone tells or P4P monitors this site, it will be fixed. So if you find yourself without funds on the 10-15% off discount days – at least add to your cart whatever months it allows and pay when able or when your final days of your subscription rolls around like I did. Who knows?
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
Great ideas, Steve. Thanks.
Steve says
Webform here may be missing up again so a repeat of my last comment to ensure it posts.
@Carolyn Enright – April 7, 2017 at 10:24 am
I’m not quite sure how you mean this?
Going with what I’m seeing “what equipment do I need to use my desktop computer with the hotspot only”, I’ll take this to mean getting online -Yes- then you have it all.
If your computer has Wi-Fi functions you can use the Wi-Fi functions of both to hook each together to get online and placing you Hotspot modem close to a window for good receptions.
Or
Using the cable supplied with the Hotspot (USB/Charger) duel functioning purpose cable – hooked up to the Hotspot just plug it into a USB port of the computer and let it load drivers and such, and your computer to recognize it as a means to use to get online.
I really can’t be more specific than that and ask you to call PCs For People for help to understanding anything further.
Get lost – don’t understand, have additional questions.
Phone support is open 10:00 AM to 5:30 PM Central Time Monday-Friday. 651-354-2552
Most emails are returned within 24 hours.
sales@pcsforpeople.org
There should be some instructions/documentation in the shipping box as well to help you understand what needs to be done.
Like I said you have all you should need to get online with your computer and the PCs For People Hotspot modem.
Thanks,
Steve
Steve says
@Carolyn Enright – April 7, 2017 at 10:24 am
I’m not quite sure how you mean this?
Going with what I’m seeing “what equipment do I need to use my desktop computer with the hotspot only”, I’ll take this to mean getting online -Yes- then you have it all.
If your computer has Wi-Fi functions you can use the Wi-Fi functions of both to hook each together to get online and placing you Hotspot modem close to a window for good receptions.
Or
Using the cable supplied with the Hotspot (USB/Charger) duel functioning purpose cable – hooked up to the Hotspot just plug it into a USB port of the computer and let it load drivers and such, and your computer to recognize it as a means to use to get online.
I really can’t be more specific than that and ask you to call PCs For People for help to understanding anything further.
Get lost – don’t understand, have additional questions.
Phone support is open 10:00 AM to 5:30 PM Central Time Monday-Friday. 651-354-2552
Most emails are returned within 24 hours.
sales@pcsforpeople.org
There should be some instructions/documentation in the shipping box as well to help you understand what needs to be done.
Like I said you have all you should need to get online with your computer and the PCs For People Hotspot modem.
Thanks,
Steve
Carolyn Enright says
My hotspot should be arriving soon. Now that I am cutting the cable cord, what equipment do I need to use my desktop computer with the hotspot only. Thank you.
Steve says
@Carolyn – April 2, 2017 at 10:06 am
Non-expert Steve here:
Hello Carolyn, I’m sorry if I gave that impression to anyone.
As long as PCs For People is in business to offer the Internet service (Sprint – Mobile Data), there will always be a mobile hotspot device available. As it’s the only way to pull in the Sprint Data signal needed for the Internet (over the air) and PCs For People offers…
That particular one (Netgear Fuse 779S), I was speaking to Becky about was replaced in P4P online sales offers some time ago.
The Franklin Wireless R850 Hotspot modem is the current one that I’m aware of and that’s being offered by PCs For People right now.
As I understand it, P4P has to offer what Sprint’s own website also offers, or there about, as like last one before a newer model released has replaced the last one for it to have offered.
Mostly like of stock that Mobile Beacon/Pcs For People have on hand, and I’m trying to indicate to everyone.
The Franklin Wireless R850 Hotspot modem sells right now on Sprint for $144.00
https://m.sprint.com/shop/mobile/shop/phone_details.jsp;jsessionidfe8=SaMcyqSk+WimZ2K+0FJQ0-UZ.fe8-production-mshop1-sprint.com?prodId=dvc10130000prd&deviceSKUId=103400006&flow=AAL&planSKUId=&ptn=&tabId=dt_mbc&defaultContractTerm=&id16=hotspot%20%7CAll&question_box=hotspot%20%7CAll
(though you can buy it about half price – on and going through PCs For People) as an eligible customer of theirs.
https://pcsrefurbished.com/sales/internetPackages.aspx#franklin
Hope this clears up your question – in recapping / the PCs For People internet service is available and look for the Franklin Wireless R850 Hotspot modem to be added to your cart during a purchase.
Non-expert Steve
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
Thank you, non-expert Steve. 🙂
Carolyn Enright says
I plan to sign up for low cost internet with pcs for people and am a little confused by your comment to Becky that the mobile hot spot device is no longer available. Does that mean that the internet service is no longer available? Sorry if this is a dump question..I’m old and not very techy.
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
Check back here soon, Carolyn. Steve, our resident PCs for People guru (he’s a modest guy and doesn’t like it when we call him an expert) will surely answer your question as soon as he sees it.
Steve says
Dear Cheap Internet.
“Good work, Steve. For those of you who don’t know, Steve is our resident PCs for People expert. We think he may know more about the program than the PCs for People – people.”
Please, we don’t want to discourage PCs For People personnel from having a voice here and answering current/future users/customers questions. I’m only trying to fill the gap till such a time, that they will be active on here to everyone’s questions.
It does appear of Becky’s question that the NetGear 779S FUSE Modem looks to be available again – is this just how you get to the site (some old link?) or what information you believe, that you are seeing there or understanding being presented. . .
Like this-
*A Franklin Wireless R850 will be shipped to customers living in Minnesota.
Confusing even more is the picture (on this one link) showed the FUSE hotspot as well being active.
Only before you make a purchase – I’d say leave it in your cart and get in touch and ask someone at PCs For People what modem will be shipped – which one is listed in your cart.
I would much better like to be known as a user that just happened to take an above average interest in the program’s and service that’s being offered by PCs For People. As a user of it myself – I’m No Expert by any means, though the title you’ve given me – would lead people to think so.
I just try my best to answer all questions registered here, being a volunteer of sorts then and as of a second opinion offered, as I know getting ahold of P4P people, and then in understanding what was said, can be challenging sometimes.
PCs For People – people are great at what they do and know, the help and understanding from a personal represented of theirs should trump all the information I’m to offer to anyone here.
Although most everybody’s interest in them, is of their low prices and keeping the prices continuing to be offered as low as possible and the service as high rated, as if it was from Sprint itself.
(Which it is from Sprint – just for low incomes, some of this through who PCs For People partnered with – long story and climb for everyone involved.)
What most readers here don’t acknowledge is that – if Sprint is in you town, city, and state already – it’s more than likely accessible, and if you qualify for PCs For People eligibility you can obtain their Sprint Internet service offering at the deep discount they offered it.
That’s why P4P relies on it’s volunteers for their most part to running the every day business, in keeping the prices low and to the availably wherever Sprint is already found. The company is lead by professionals of the higher ranks in a structured business and the volunteers follow their directions. That’s my understanding.
The P4P Internet service is not cell phone service as in phones calls, but being carried over the same network towers as it – but it’s of a Data transmission, that’s why it’s important to understand this when looking on the “Sprint Map” to the Data “TAB” there as seeing about your addresses and the DATA service availability.
If I must have a title here, let it be as one who may know – a volunteer to you and the questions you receive, and if I ever fail to instruct others “always seek conformation of any answer I should give” – I’m no expert just a user! I’ve been wrong before and can’t help from being wrong again. : )
Thank you,
Steve
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
Thanks, Steve. Your modesty is admirable.
Steve says
@Becky – March 24, 2017 at 6:11 pm
Hi, First you do know this AirCard 779S (Sprint) – NETGEAR Fuse Mobile Hotspot is no longer being offered to online sales customers. There may be some instances where living close to one of their retail stores it’s maybe possible to find or get one yet.
Second to even use this 779S on PCs For People you would have had to of bought it from them at some point when they were offering it. You can’t otherwise bring one (or any Hotspot modem) to the Sprint Internet service with PCs For People, as a Modem has to be sold by them, been registered to use on PCs For People and should still have the PCs For People registered SIM card in it.
Ok – just so were clear on that, yes the 779S can USB hook-up to a computers USB port and feed the Internet signal to the computer that way (Hard Wired), any other device (up to 10) would have to be Wi-Fi capable to pull same signal from the hotspots Wi-Fi antenna. As well the 779S plugged in to a USB port on the computer to give it the Hard Wired Internet signal, it will also at the same time take a charge to charge the 779S Hotspot battery. It’s possible to overcharge this 779S that way by leaving it plugged in all the time – just a warning, battery will swell overtime.
The now offered Franklin Wireless R850 Modem as far as I know, as I don’t have one or hands on. It’s capable of the same signal/charge exchange over the USB cable, but it DOES have a built-in fail safe NOT to be overcharged. I learned this by a customer on here talking about it.
Probably more than you needed to know – but – hey why not. . .
I leave you with this-
https://www.netgear.com/support/product/AC779S-Sprint.aspx
https://support.sprint.com/global/pdf/user_guides/netgear/netgear_fuse_mobile_hotspot/netgear_fuse_mobile_hotspot_ug.pdf
Thanks,
Steve
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
The Unbelievable Steve does it again. Thank you, sir.
Becky says
Does the Netgear modem/router have the ability to connect to a desktop unit via a USB cable?
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
Let’s see if Steve, our resident expert on the PCs for People plan, can answer that question. Steve?
Steve says
@Cheryl – March 17, 2017 at 7:49 am
Yes – it’s true that Cheap Internet is an independent website, in so being, it’s one of the best to offer News, Articles, updated information to America’s less fortunate citizens of advantages to be found in wired and wireless Internet service.
If you’d kindly look back to see my comment to
@BRENDA – February 22, 2017 at 10:10 am
@Linda – March 15, 2017 at 11:10 am
and follow that advice. (it’s not far down the page here).
Steve
Cheryl Rowden says
I would love to get this for my Mom. She lives in Poplar Bluff, Missouri and we can only find one internet service in her area and it is over $60 just for the lowest plan.
Do you cover that area? The zip code is 63901.
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
We’re an independent website, Cheryl, not PCs for People. You’ll need to contact them directly using the contact info provided in the above article.
Steve says
@BRENDA – February 22, 2017 at 10:10 am
@Linda – March 15, 2017 at 11:10 am
Coverage Check:
http://coverage.sprint.com/IMPACT.jsp?
Be sure to use the middle tab “DATA” (above the map) as that’s the type of coverage needed – that the PCs For People internet service uses. Right hand side column see the color for 4G LTE and locate on the Map, zooming in to your location for a better view of it.
Please follow these instructions to verify coverage before you place your order.
1.Select the device you are ordering (Franklin Wireless 850) as shown in Section A to the left.
2.Enter the main address where you will use the service (street address, city, state, and zip code) as shown in Section B to the left.
3.View data coverage by selecting the “Data” tab as shown in Section C to the left.
4.View “4G LTE” or “Enhanced LTE” coverage as shown in Section D to the left.
5.If you have coverage with your selected device, please complete your order. If you do not, please email internet@pcsforpeople.org and we will investigate whether we have a different device we can offer you.
https://www.pcsrefurbished.com/sales/buyInternet.aspx
Get lost – don’t understand, have additional questions.
Phone support is open 10:00 AM to 5:30 PM Central Time Monday-Friday. 651-354-2552
Most emails are returned within 24 hours.
sales@pcsforpeople.org
PCs for People – St. Paul
1481 Marshall Ave
Saint Paul, MN 55104
Web Contact Form:
https://www.pcsrefurbished.com/about/contact.aspx
Steve
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
Good work, Steve. For those of you who don’t know, Steve is our resident PCs for People expert. We think he may know more about the program than the PCs for People people.
Linda K Roberson says
Is this available in Mississippi?
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
Mississippi is not among the 21 states listed, but the company’s coverage map certainly shows coverage in Mississippi. We would recommend that you contact the company’s customer service to get the correct answer to your quesiton.
BRENDA says
HELLO I WOULD LIKE TO GET THE INTERNENT FOR MY HOME ON A FIXED INCOME..
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
We’re not PCs for People, Brenda. We’re an independent website, but you can contact PCs for People using the contact info we provided in the article on this page.
Steve says
@CheapInternet.com Administrator
@Rey
@anyone else
To clarify things, I had said ” Somewhere earlier, I’ve also seen it was a Mobile Beacon issue with using your own modem with Sprint, although may have been updated just to reflect Sprint as the sole reason now. ”
It still states along this same answer as I gave, but you only see it when purchasing the Internet Service in the PCs for People Internet Offer Overview>Can I bring my own modem?
Answer:
No. Unfortunately, Mobile Beacon’s activation process does not currently allow users to supply their own device. We have asked that our users be allowed to purchase their own devices several times and we will provide updates if the current policy changes.
https://pcsrefurbished.com/sales/buyInternet.aspx
So it looks like there’s been no update to Mobile Beacon/Sprint policy for the PCs For People Internet service yet.
Most likely for the reasons I have given in my earlier answer noted in Further More:.
Then the next answer there on the P4P webpage is important for anyone, – PCs For People have a unique partnership with Mobile Beacon that allows them to extend their pricing for Unlimited 4G LTE to schools, nonprofits and certain low income individuals who meet their eligibility requirements. Anyone who purchases the service must provide proof of eligibility and we will routinely validate users ongoing eligibility to continue to receive Mobile Beacon’s service.
PS: @CheapInternet.com Administrator the comments box is acting weird right now, typing in the middle of a word to add a missed letter or adding a space between two words both results in the next letter being removed/erased. Go figure 🙂
Thanks, Steve
Steve says
@Rey – February 16, 2017 at 1:00 am
Can I bring my own modem?
No. Unfortunately, our activation process with Sprint does not currently allow users to supply their own devices.
https://www.pcsforpeople.com/internet
Somewhere earlier, I’ve also seen it was a Mobile Beacon issue with using your own modem with Sprint, although may have been updated just to reflect Sprint as the sole reason now.
Just be glad Rey, we’re able to buy them (out right) and not having to rent them on a monthly bases. . .
From above article:
The modems we offer are $140 for a consumer to purchase directly from Sprint. We are subsidizing the modems to bring costs down to $74.95 which is below Sprint’s wholesale cost. In the future we hope a bring-your-own device policy is allowed and we are also pushing to manufacture our own line of reduced cost modems. Until we are allowed to do that we will continue to offer the best deal we can and what we feel is the best internet offering in the US.
Further More:
Sprint is one of the hardest companies to bring your own device (Sprint branded or not) to, as in this case of (PCs For People) modem, is it needed for the 4G LTE Data connection in which the Sprint SIM card comes installed, linked to the modem’s MEID/IMEI numbers and has been activated for use. Otherwise you’d have to have a device fall within Sprint’s already white listed MEID/IMEI device numbers, Sprint still whitelists devices at a network level.
When it comes to Sprint, you have no options but to play by the rules
Every mobile device that gets approved by the FCC and released for retail has a set of IMEI numbers assigned to it. Based on the device’s IMEI, you can tell its model number, where it was originally purchased, and other metadata, etc…
You’d have better luck in moving a wheelbarrow filled with bowling balls up a 40% hill hopping on one leg, then to bring your own device to Sprint by way of PCs For People.
Rey with PCs For People initial cost (modem+subscription) on the year all up front, you’ll still be saving hundreds of dollars over anyone else’s pricing. Then in year two you’ll save even more by not having to buy the modem and just renew your year’s subscription (year = $120.00 for best subscription pricing). That’s the way it is Feb. 16th 2017.
Thanks, Steve
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
Thanks, Steve. It’s always amazing the way you come up with answers on the PCs for People program.
Rey says
Any updates on pcs 4 people offering a bring your own device policy and/or reduced cost modems?
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
This is another one of those questions for Steve, our resident PCs for People expert. What say you, Steve?
Steve says
Free Calls and Texts using your PCS For People service.
For those with a PCs For People account with Internet and Modem as well as your own Smartphone, this is one suggestion (with variables) to try.
I also believe you can do this with either a GSM vs CDMA phone with either of the platforms in Android or iOS iPhone, and then as well with either a Windows, Mac OS X computer for the home use over your computers through the PCs For People modem and internet service.
Set up Google Voice on the phone and you’ll be able to make free phone calls & text thru Google Voice. Do a Google Search for info. to do this – requires a Google Account first. Many App’s on it’s Google play store to choose from enabling this possibly too in free Calls and Texts – if you don’t go the Google Voice route.
If you don’t like one try another one till your happy. Many are free!
Look at the TextNow one – see if it’s right for you.
FREE SMS TEXTING, PICTURE MESSAGING, CALLING, AND VOICEMAIL. Free UNLIMITED calling and UNLIMITED SMS text messaging to all US & Canadian phone numbers.
TextNow gives you your very own dedicated phone number.
[On their Webpage they have some of the cheapest plans and Phone prices I’ve seen – do note your supposedly not able to use these TextNow Phones on another MVNO as they install their own ROM over-writing the original Phones Firmware] see their support pages for further information of their users who wished too.
There are many Apps and variables here, so I’m just putting this out for your information. I’m not wanting to Highjack this article and I Will Not Answer Your Questions to the Related information. I will only answer PCs For Peoples service questions if I’m able…
So you have to go elsewhere for your questions to be answered using Google Voice or a Free App for free Calls and Texts. Got It !
Then by the same eligibility requirements you’ve met in your account with PCs For People, your probably also eligible for a Free Government Cell Phone in the Lifeline program, which Cheap Internet sister site is of a vast amount of information – to go about in achieving that Free Phone and Free Monthly service setup.
http://www.freegovernmentcellphones.net/basics/qualify
Just follow through the steps/pages there of the information and hopefully you’ll be on your way to a free phone with free monthly service through the Lifeline Program.
It’s up to you to have a backup plan and cover your assets in multiple ways.
Hope this Info. helps at least one soul reading this.
Thanks, Steve
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
Much appreciated, as always, Mr. Steve.
Steve says
@Heather Racinelli – January 17, 2017 at 2:13 pm
Hi that’s some good questions, you know it depends on many factors.
There are some sites that claim by users feed back you can get an ideal of any network signal in a city with their users ratings or % of their feed back. Some apps lets to and wants users feed back to, and as well as internet speed testing sites. You might just do a G search for any data base collected as I mentioned.
Lots of people don’t think about it but phone service (cell) is coming to them at less than LTE like 2G & 3G – texts and data internet must always use 4G/LTE or as high in its delivery volumes capability.
PCs For People is only offering 4G/LTE so what can we do with this?
With the Hotspots 10 hour charge and fitting like a phone in our pockets we have mobile 4G/LTE unlimited Data – with a years cost up front to an amount of $10.00 monthly.
Then texting & calling apps on your Smartphones in that can only make use of a Data internet’s signal to work – its possibly better then to a 2G, 3G cell signals.
Should we happen into a business with free Wi-Fi and it would have a stronger signal than our hotspots we can make use of it to.
I’m talking many opportunities here, even some phone carriers are going hybrid in using technology to trade off calls across different delivery mediums or focused on just Data delivery as VOIP.
At home with a free apps on the computer we can make call over VOIP.
BlackJack and Vonage has been doing this for years through a regular looking home phone using your internet data..
Heather you never know as PCs For People don’t either but if it works for you or your friend – think of saving hundreds of greenbacks a year and then to in P4P give you 30 days to ask for a refund…
Balls in your court – take it to the net.
Thanks for your questions,
Steve
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
Thanks, Steve.
Heather Racinelli says
I have sprint mobile and have a senior citizen friend on our account that we are paying for so i can make sure he is safe as he lives in stanchfield, mn when i am there internet service is very spotty and inconsistant at best along with phone service about the only thing we can usually count on i text messages.
I am looking to get him set up with his own internet again that he can afford would the service with this be any different with a modem or the same spotty unreliable service?
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
Hey, Steve, do you want to handle this question?
Steve says
PCs For People has a JANUARY Sale on ONE Model of a desktop computer for $70.00 – Right Now…
It’s seems to be marked down by $5.00 going with the statement of “Professionally refurbished desktops start at $75”, and shows 5 in stock of this unit when I checked.
[Note: there are 3 other desktop configurations and two laptop options that not part of the JANUARY SALE – FYI please note]
For $70.00 with free shipping and a 30 day return, then a 90 day hardware warranty, you can get the Lenovo ThinkCentre M58p Core 2 Duo E8400 Full Set.
Includes Desktop, LCD, Speakers, Keyboard, Mouse, Video Cable, Power Cords, and Free Gift! Accessories available with the purchase.
This is a basic system that can get you started off in modest proportions, and then offers an upgrade of a few components and a few optional add-on’s like (Software – MS Home and Office for $20.00, Wireless – Micro USB Wireless Adapter for $10.00, Accessories – Wireless Mouse $10.00) none of these are required unless the buyer ads them to the system at the time of purchase…
– Specifications – (*= upgradable at an extra cost) and [free] means comes with the $70.00 price tag.
Brand: Lenovo
Model: ThinkCentre M58p 7483
New or Refurbished – Refurbished (mild to moderate cosmetic wear)
Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3.0GHz (or similar)
*RAM 4GB [free], (Upgradable at an extra cost – $20.00 to $35.00 per choices)
*Hard Drive 160GB [free], (Upgradable at an extra cost – $10.00 to $35.00 per choices)
*Screen Sizes 17″LCD [free], dependent on choice of a 19″LCD for $10.00 more, brands may vary
Audio iMicro Desktop Speaker [free]
Free Gift Chester Creek Headphones [free gift]
Software Package: (included in the $70.00 price tag)
These are some of the programs that come with your computer. Need something else? Ask us.
•OpenOffice/LibreOffice for typing, spreadsheets, and presentations
•Windows Defender, an antivirus program
•Malwarebytes, a program that removes malware
•CCleaner, a program that removes cookies and internet-related viruses
•Mozilla Firefox, an internet browser (requires internet)
•Online Learning, a link to lots of helpful websites for education (requires internet)
•Kiwix, an encyclopedia that you can use without an internet connection
NOTE:::
(Although I had seen Windows 7 and 8.1 being offered as an OS last year by them – It looks, that only a Windows 10 Pro 64 bit is standard on all desktops and laptops they sell now – which alone is about $200.00 from the Microsoft store!)-(Any computer with Windows as the selected operating system requires eligibility verification, or You must be below the 200% poverty level or be an eligible organization.)
Steve
Steve says
@CheapInternet.com Administrator
I see, some phantom hiccup – though my answers to Della and her posting of like/same questions, clearly indicate that we both had a same experience in not seeing our comments waiting to be approved.
Thus the duplicates.
But the site appears to work as normal as ever right now.
Thank you for answering me. Hope your Friday the 13th is good!
Steve
Steve says
@ Mr Tech Guru would like to know what kind of device, browser and operating system you use.
Howdy, the same one since 2014 a Windows PC desktop no brand, just one built by myself running 8.1 x64 with IE 11 browser, SSD and 16GB Ram.
Processor: AMD A10-6800K APU Radeon Graphics 4.10 GHz
Ram: 16GB (15.2GB usable)
System Type: 64-bit OS x64 based processor
No Pen or Touch for display
I cleaned out most of the Metro crud for mostly a desktop experience
of the older Windows OS’s.
Steve
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
Thanks. He’s been looking into it and hasn’t found anything wrong on our end yet.
Steve says
@CI Admin.,
Wouldn’t you know everything worked right with that last comment made – except being able to reply to it by the blue box reply method.
I even stayed on this page too.
Steve
Steve says
Hello @Cheap Internet Admin.,
Have you done any kind of a website upgrade or fiddled with some settings maybe – cause in the usual way it would let me see my comment with the saying “only you are able to view your comment till a moderator approves it” and its not happening or was never shown in last few comments I’ve made.
Then as said, it even kicked me back to mid-page of the first page of comments that were made here – when using the submit button.
I’ve never been able to respond directly to a comment by the BLUE REPLY BOX after each comment on this specific article – like in that ability of other articles here on your website does allow.
Could you please look over the site and see if someone has been or tried to tamper with it.
Thank You,
Steve
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
We lowly comment moderators are not privy to the inner technical workings of the site and wouldn’t understand them if we were. But we’ve passed your comment on to the tech gurus.
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
Mr Tech Guru would like to know what kind of device, browser and operating system you use.
Steve says
@Cheap Internet Admin.,
Sorry for all same/like answer posts.
I wasn’t getting a moderating statement and see my post when submitted.
I was even kick back in the post comment pages a couple of times too.
Website alright – maybe a bug here?
Steve
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
Don’t know, Steve. We had a moderator shortage the last couple days, so maybe that was the issue.
Steve says
@Della says January 10, 2017 at 11:06 am
If you have Sprint’s Data coverage there – then yes you can get on PCs For People’s Internet plans via the eligibility requirements met.
http://coverage.sprint.com/IMPACT.jsp?
Be sure to use the “DATA” tab when checking your address or just zip Code – then on the right side menu look for the corresponding color and see if it’s for 4G LTE. Bingo if it is…
Steve
Steve says
@ Della http://coverage.sprint.com/IMPACT.jsp?
Type your address in and use the DATA Tab to see – it looks like you have 4G LTE there and then confirm by calling PCs For People customers service. Phone: 651-354-2552.
Steve
Steve says
@Della – January 10, 2017 at 11:06 am
Please place a Phone call to PCs For People, Phone support is open 10:00 AM to 5:30 PM Central Time Monday-Friday. 651-354-2552
Other contact methods are found here-
https://www.pcsrefurbished.com/about/contact.aspx
Checking on Sprints Coverage Map using the DATA TAB and entering that Westwood, NJ location looks to have coverage of 4G LTE service. An exact address and zooming in might tell you more and then again that phone call to PCs For People as well.
http://coverage.sprint.com/IMPACT.jsp?
If its true ,then its for you and can save hundreds of dollars a year over your like service now.
Steve
Della DelRios says
The PCs For People program is needed in Bergen County. The towns in this county are costly to live in.
Della DelRios says
Is the PCs For People coming to (Bergen County)Westwood, NJ and surrounding areas? The program is sorely needed here.
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
That all depends on if and when and where the Sprint national cell network expands its footprint, Della. In othe words, it’s out of PCs for People’s control.
Della says
Hello, Is PCs For People program coming to Westwood, NJ and the surrounding areas in Bergen County? The cost of living is high here. I budget almost every day to make ends meet and keep up with the monthly bills. There are many residents here struggling financially.
Best Regards,
Del
Steve says
@Crystal – December 11, 2016 at 4:47 pm
Hello,
There may be some cases to where PCs For People have given away computers but, I think this is to the really needy on a case by case bases, and still may require whatever donation the person is able to give, then to only in the areas that they would have an office/outreach facility location like in Minnesota and Denver.
Website states this though- “”If you are eligible, you can purchase computers online, or come to one of our offices where computers are available for a donation ranging from $0 to $150.””
But fret not as PCs For People have offered some periodic sales, and then to of their regular pricing offers a really good deal on desktops and laptops computers / when available. Please understand these are computers that have been donated to them and went through by their personal bringing them back to a functional refurbished state. They offer a 30 day return period and a 90 day warranty.
You can purchase a complete PC / Sprint LTE Bundle, this means a Desktop system – Modem – 3 month Internet subscription. Please see my comment at Steve says – December 9, 2016 at 10:41 pm, for the links to see what’s available now, but do note that comment was on a short time sale and the sale prices mentioned of it will not be the same now.
You don’t have to buy a computer from them but, to get just that of the Internet service YES you must purchase a Modem (which is NEW and carries a different warranty) and at least a 3 month subscription – all at the same time in one purchase, and then can be renewed at any of 3 months, 6 months, 12 months subscriptions length there after. The higher amount of months included in a subscription term the more savings to you. A total of 15 months is all that can be pre-paid on an account as beings their policy of having to recertify every 12 months.
All of this mentioned here is offered via your proof of eligibility by income or enrollment in a government assistance program.
http://www.pcsforpeople.com/recipients/eligibility
PCs for People has been providing affordable technology options to low-income individuals, families with children, those with disabilities, and nonprofits since 1998. Then more recently (earlier this year)started offering their program to a national audience, who for the Internet service they offer must be in a Sprint’s Network coverage area, and to any and all of their offerings one must prove their eligibility.
I can’t answer you of this question- “Is it available in West Virginia?”
They offer a link to Sprint’s coverage map on their website to see when signing up and purchasing – if your within the coverage area, this is under the “add to cart” box and has to have the check mark that you have made sure you are by checking out the map link which takes you to Sprint’s coverage map.
Then using the add to cart button loads a new page – If not wanting a computer just click Proceed to Checkout located on bottom right of the page there – you are able to move back to the prior page to change your order if needed. From here the next page that loads is for your account information (please do keep this information by a screenshot – phone picture or whatever you can, even writing it down) for a later reference to help if needed.
The existing customer is for when you want to renew a subscription, and if this is your first purchase and new account creation just ignore it.
It is also advisable to have your documented proof of eligibility at least dated within the last 6 months (unless annual document – Tax Return) ready to upload during your purchase, they take the file types PDF or image JPG, GIF, PNG etc. to upload. *Include your picture ID with the document or in a second image upload offered there.
Crystal any further fine tuned answers you may need still – I’d ask you to call them at 651-354-2552 Monday-Friday 9:00 am – 5:30 pm Central Standard Time.
Hope this was helpful to you and others.
Thank you,
Steve
Crystal says
I’m trying to understand this program. My question is do they give you a computer,and do you have to buy the modem and pay for services for at least 3 months? Can you renew it after the 3 months? Is it available in West Virginia?
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
We’ll let Steve, our resident PCs for People expert, answer this question. Take it away, Steve.
Vint says
@ Steve,
Just to let you know, and cheapinternet.com as well, I and my wife have much appreciation for the help and information finding a solution to our problem of internet service. Cheapinternet.com helped us find information about other programs and options that we knew nothing about. This is definitely the place to go for help finding low cost internet, no matter where one lives in the country or what their status may be in life. Without this site I wouldn’t have known about PC’s for People or Access AT&T for that matter or the many other sites and programs we were able to check out. Everyone’s problems vary and not all solutions will fit each individuals needs and as it is with Steve and I, we have the same internet service through the same provider but we haven’t the same device or live in the same area. My questions asked over the past 2 weeks were related to anyone having the same issues I was having with the Franklin R850 hot spot device, I didn’t find anyone, and it also seemed that I was getting a bit of run around from the people I bought the device from, so I came here to find some answers.
Since then I have received better information from PC’s for People and the Franklin R850 seems to have recovered from its illness. When I purchase a service or a device I expect the provider or seller to always honor their warranties and to keep their word. Respect is earned not given and once you hear the truth, all the rest is cheap whiskey.
Steve says
@ Ho Ho Ho – it’s going to be Christmas soon,
Yes I got another email advising of a 10% off on EVERYTHING sale.
Happy Holidays from PCs for People!
Use Coupon Code: holiday10
Please enter it (just as above) ” holiday10 ” in the Coupon Code BOX at checkout !
All specials are while supplies last and only valid for purchases on 12-9-16 to 12-11-16.
New Internet Customers:
PCs for People is offering high speed Unlimited LTE internet for as low as $9 per month. – (as copied from email) [which looks to be a re-hashed cybermonday email that was sent to me earlier] because it states of this email the newest Holiday Special (12-09-2016) today-
$103.45 – 3 months of internet service at $11.33 per month and wireless modem.
$134.95 – 6 months of internet service at $10.63 per month and wireless modem.
$175.45 – 12 months of internet service at $8.5 per month and wireless modem.
So on a 12 month Internet with Modem purchase it’s less than $9.00 a month… As I understand it the coupon code brings an additional savings by 10% on top of these special prices.
LAPTOP buyers – there are two listed right now !
https://www.pcsrefurbished.com/sales/categorySales.aspx?categoryID=4
DESKTOP buyers – there are nine listed right now in different configurations with two having complete deals of – Sprint LTE Bundle,
that means Desktop system – Modem – 3 month Internet subscription ! {I see now where the low as $9.00 a month for Internet service has meaning, as if you buy one of the two desktop complete deals you can change your subscription from the “FREE” 3 month to a 12 Month subscription option and pay $9.00 for each month then.}
https://www.pcsrefurbished.com/sales/categorySales.aspx?categoryID=3
Disclaimer::: I have no association with Pcs For People – other than being an Internet Subscriber myself, and then only a commenter here on Cheap Internet as well. I am a Low-Income American…
Who found a great savings with PCs For People and wish other low-income Americans to save as I do.
Thanks,
Steve
Steve says
@Vint Hello,
I’m going to bow out of the Rant’s here about PCs For People, to what I may think they should/could do and be. As in my feelings I have shared lately about them, are about the same as yours. Then to on top of everything else I’ve mentioned, I have had no real problems in the overall Internet service experienced from them.
PCs For People offers me excellent pricing at which point is the bottom line to a customers loyalty, wherever else the company may fall short in doing so with it’s business model, may very well be an estimation of what to expect with a nonprofit. These two points of low pricing and unlimited Internet service from a major network, I feel they have down pat, and with these two basic offerings in their business model, I can and will continue to expect from them and be a loyal customer.
I’ll try from now on to focus on the strengths of the program and the company offering it, and to offer readers here of any help I’m able to in any information as I’m to understand it.
In an overall picture or image here of seeing how we get the pricing and Internet service as an end user, just try thinking of a funnel shaped form, where as Sprint has 30,000 employees (Q1 2016)*, then in the rolls in Mobile Beacon / Mobile Citizen, Mobile Citizen is an affiliate of Voqal, a consortium of organizations with a long history in public media, all of which to their actual numbers of employees evades my research for anyone of them.
Then at the tip or output is our PCs for People which has a number of employees at 4**, and relies heavily on volunteers for the most part.
Take a look inside of that narrow part (tip) of the funnel image.
http://www.twincities.com/2016/03/31/once-threatened-low-cost-internet-gets-new-life-in-twin-cities/
https://www.facebook.com/pcsforpeople/
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sprint_Corporation
** https://www.bbb.org/minnesota/business-reviews/computers-service-and-repair/pcs-for-people-in-saint-paul-mn-96350445
Thanks to Cheap Internet for a chance to have a voice here and not of just to rant!
Steve
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
Your posts are always informative and helpful, Steve. We normally do not let commenters post links to outside sites just to protect our readers.
Vint says
Greetings @ Steve,
I and my Wife have read the information for returns, refunds, warranties and all other information concerning the hot spot as you have stated here and there is a lot missing. I am concerned as well, because mostly of the missing information and also depending on who I talk to or correspond with on email I get different answers. It would be so easy to put everything regarding the hot spot on their website to reduce confusion and provice clarity on refunds deadlines warranties, who to talk to and so on. I was trying yesterday to relay that information and I let my frustration get the best of me and as far as I can tell cheapinternet.com did not publish one of my diatribes about pc4p on this forum. I am not bashing pcs4p, I just want more information, that is my right as a customer.
I like the service, and I am not unsatisfied with it, I am using it everyday and have not had any problems with the signal to speak of. It just seems that pcs4p as you also stated need to do a better job of informing their clients what to do in case of what ever happens.
Pcs4p did offer to take the hot spot back after the 7 days and replace it if I was so inclined and I thanked them for that offer, they are nice on the phone and in emails and have not treated me with any disrespect. I don’t think there is any major problems with the device, and it hasn’t shut off and it has been on for 2 days straight and that is a good thing. As far as the invoice, we received one with the hot spot when it arrived, and as for registering it, that is something I need to do soon. I don’t know if they mean Mobile Beacon or Sprint when they talk of Network Provider, most likely Sprint, and would assume as much from the email I received yesterday from pcs4p stating that Sprint is the one to contact with problems concerning the hot spot. Your other concerns are noted and I will look into it and let all know what they say as far as shipping and such.
It looks like just you and I are the only ones that give a darn about our service with pcs4p here and anywhere else as far as I can tell from the searches I’ve done, I find that a bit odd. Maybe it is just me that is odd. Thanks for all of your help.
Best regards,
Vint
Steve says
@Vint
Not seen at all as a complainer here – and if it wasn’t for comments and attentions given to the issues and facts, then many people wouldn’t even know of such happenings and to any relief or resolve available.
About more commenters here – well – I to wished there were more as to the service and of the savings they have seen. What it means to them, and if of any problems they have experienced in any of the process to all realms involved with this beings as a pre-paid service up front. What maybe PCs For People has said they’d do for them and then fell short in or surpassed what was said.
I have been hashing over something, and if I were you, and if the Franklin was to shut-down one more time, I would seek a replacement for it now before any longer of a time period expires…
I say this because of these printed facts on PCs for People website.
Internet FAQ>PCs for People Internet Offer Overview
https://pcsrefurbished.com/about/internetFAQ.aspx
It’s stated on their website that a warranty is offered as such-
“”Modem Warranty – 60-Day Mobile Beacon and One Year Limited Manufacturer Warranty
Mobile Beacon currently provides a 60-day hardware warranty through the network provider and a one year limited warranty is provided by the device manufacturer. The warranty starts from the date a device is activated on behalf PCs for People, not when the device is received by the end user. PCs for People provides device support, but does not provide warranty replacement for internet devices.””
“”Modem Return Policy
Items must be returned within 7 days from the date the device is received.””
Then to of the fact that I personally didn’t get a sales receipt for my Hotspot device to prove the sales date for any later warranty from the manufacturer of the one year period stated therein. I did register it on Netgear’s website as to being the manufacture of my device.
The part above “through the network provider”, I would think is Sprint being referenced but, then why not name Sprint directly then?
I see a lot of missing information here, one for instance is in a return of a Modem. Nothing is stated as a proper means and that if a prior notification must be given to them, what address is to be used for returns and if a Return Material Authorization (RMA) number is needed and to be issued to the customer then by what means. Can a customer print off a return shipping label to be used. There are many website PCs For People could visit to learn how to make their site more informative and helpful to their customers. I mean after all this is a FAQ page to their customers and they have been in business for many years…
This is a personal decision for you only to make a call in Vint.
74 thundering on down the road.
Thanks,
Steve
Vint says
@Steve,
Thank you for the info on VPN I will look into it. Zoho is a business email that offers an inexpensive alternative to business web mail and is mainly for business’s. It came highly recommended at the time when I had to find a new web mail provider. It’s connected to our website and use it only for business. I appreciate all of your answers concerning pc4p and although I sound like a constant complainer I am happy with the service so far. I am receiving a very good internet signal and for most of the time no interruptions and there are three of us on most of the day every day.
I am surprised that there are not more internet subscribers commenting here.
Best regards,
Vint
Steve says
@Vint: Re-FYI
The prior answer from P4P – “Anna at PCs4People. Franklin 480 device; the unit will shut off when on the charger is past the point of charge to save the battery from damage, the device can be plugged in directly to the micro USB power supply with the battery removed.”
Then as you’ve stated “”We have had ours for 11 days now and the device has shut off twice.””
Out of my curiosity, in any of these two instances has the Franklin 480 been used only by a Wi-Fi signal to any connected device, or has there been at least one device used as by being USB connected to the Franklin 480? Hardwired then for a network connection, or if only of Wi-Fi connected devices was there still used a USD supplied to the Franklin and it was not on the battery only to being without any USB connected to it when it shut down these two times?
If so in one case by a USB connection to a device (PC,Phone,other), the Franklin may be receiving a charge from that USB connected device besides allowing that USB hardwired device to have access to the Sprint network.
This is how I use my Fuse with it constantly USB hardwired to my PC, for the PC to access the web by Sprints network. I leave the Fuse hotspot on all the time, so when I fire up my box it’s ready to connect to the web, and I also use the Wi-Fi feature to feed my Phone it’s data connection – which is a BYOP to Life Wireless a Lifeline provider and which I’ve then opt-in to the voice only option and not using the FCC new Broadband requirement to the Lifeline program.
Although the Fuse doesn’t seem to have the precautions to shut down if in a past the point of a full charge to save the battery from damage as the Franklin 480 offers. Maybe it’s going into a trickle mode possibly in keeping the Fuse battery at a fully charged state then? The Fuse never feels warm to the touch for me.
The part that Anna said “the device can be plugged in directly to the micro USB power supply with the battery removed.” I have just tried this with my Fuse while USB connected to my PC and online typing this here – in removing the battery, it’s out of the Fuse now and no disconnection have I experienced and the Fuse is still powered on.
I didn’t know this was possible to do.
EDIT: In less than 5 minutes it has disconnected now (more like 3 min.) and trying to power it back up all I get is the purple Netgear Aircard display and nothing else of the on UI. Putting the battery back in I’ve noticed it has swollen (like that of my Samsung Note3 battery) when I was tethering it to my PC being connected by the USB all the time. (I think signal fluxions and drops causes batteries to swell for working all the more in reestablishing a solid connection.)
My box is an al la cart self assembled unit and I don’t remember if it has any Wi-Fi capability components itself. Looks like I need to do a couple of things now, read up on my parts in my PC box and to order another battery. Maybe looking into a router to use yoo.
PCs for People may have moved away from the Fuse for general distributions for the fact that there are no precautions to shut it down if of a past the point of a full charge to save the battery from damage. Which in shipping costs could amount significantly to them even if the batteries were covered by Sprint in someway.
Vint you can search for the term “Sprint forums” and find many to show for results.
I’m sure that Sprint has some kind of a lock (IMEI or similar) to a specific device on their network but, have you tried to move the Sprint SIM in the Franklin 480 to your FreedomPop Fuse to see what’s possible there in doing that?
Thanks,
Steve
Steve says
@Vint Greetings,
Thank you for your answers.
I’m just a lowly contributor to cheapinternet.com Sir.
Your statement of- “I don’t know how to set up a VPN”, sometimes it is as simple as buying into a services and installing their client to automate of the connections and settings. Some VPN”s offer a free trial period, while some charge x amount for a few days service to try it and some don’t offer anything but a refund in the first month of paying if for some reason your not happy. The free ones I’ve used but not anymore, for my own reasons. Although buying a month is at a higher rate, it is a good means to try before a year purchase for the better rates. I’m with VPN.ac now, just let me know and I’ll post some hopefully still good discount codes if your interested.
Here are two links to check out to know some more.
https://www.bestvpn.com/blog/38176/vpns-beginners-need-know/
https://torrentfreak.com/vpn-anonymous-review-160220/
I have a email at Zoho, I’ve never used it and in really having took any time to understood it, as it was a giveaway thing when I signed up.
posteo.de is only 1.00 EUR per month and in USD not much more.
You can signup and pay anonymously – “We are an independent email service based in Berlin and are highly concerned with sustainability, security, privacy and usability. Posteo is completely ad-free and 100% powered by green energy from Greenpeace Energy. We advocate for “informational self-determination”: In these times of network surveillance, Posteo protects the privacy of its users with a modern and innovative encryption and security model.”
About conversing with me by email as apposed to just this forum, if ever you get a posteo account I’d be happy too.
Go back to Steve says December 4, 2016 at 1:11 am and the link there right above the reply tab/box – go to it and start at the last comment there working down and you find how some are saying things that may give you ideals to answer this statement of yours
“I would like to know how to hook this Franklin hub into my linksys router”
74 thundering on down the road.
Thanks, Steve
Vint says
FYI,
For all of those out there with the Franklin 480 hot spot device, We have had ours for 11 days now and the device has shut off twice. Causing me to remove the battery & re install and turn on, has anyone on PC’s for People had this problem with this particular device. I am not extremely concerned as I have had problems with phones doing this in the past but I would like to hear from more PC’s for People subscribers that have the same device.
Happy Trails,
Vint
Vint says
@Steve,
As far as security on line I use Microsoft Security Essentials on my PC, I use Malware bytes for mobile like phone and tablets. I have found that this along with being vigilant about what I do and where I go on line along with turning off the internet on the device when not in use or using airplane mode. I am very careful about what I download and update and where I get it from.
As far as email goes, My website email is Zoho, they say they don’t sell information and I have never had any problems in that sense with them. The others are a different story, G mail, Yahoo, Outlook, are all terrible and Gmail being the worse, but I have been using all of these for a very long time and I am not going to switch now. I am also not going to pay for email if I don’t have to, although an @reagan email would be nice to have but I just don’t want to pay for email.
I don’t know how to set up a VPN yet, but I am going to learn soon, to add I change my passwords a lot, never the same for very long.
Vint
Vint says
@Steve,
Good evening, first of all I received an email back from Anna at PCs4People. Franklin 480 device; the unit will shut off when on the charger is past the point of charge to save the battery from damage, the device can be plugged in directly to the micro USB power supply with the battery removed. All of this is fine except for the fact that mine shut off when it wasn’t on the charger. My other question was getting a Net gear fuse, she said they are no longer available, even though they still have it and the MIFi hotspot on their website. She also said that there is no need to worry about the data counter on the device as we are on an unlimited plan. These are the only questions she answered, she didn’t answer the signal level question as I among others only get one bar most of the time and I live in a solid Sprint data area as stated previously.
Thank yo for answering me back and for the information, all said and done I am satisfied with the service so far and I even got 2 bars on the signal for a while today. What I was asking you about another forum was being able to converse with you by email as apposed to just this forum, are you just a contributor to cheapinternet.com or are you also a creator as well.
Also just to let you all know as I am typing on my PC and the hub is in the other room without any kind of boost or router ( I don’t know how to connect it to my router) I am getting 58 mbs, and that isn’t to shabby. I would like to know how to hook this Franklin hub into my linksys router for obvious reasons. Thanks for everything.
Happy Trails,
Vint
Steve says
Any thoughts, ideals, or experiences here since PCs For People is a Mobile Internet and with still all the nasty’s that come from the Internet in general to one’s use of this platform in our digital age.
I’d like to hear of all that’s useful in PC Desktop-Laptops and mobile Devices like Phones-Tablets-Netbooks-etc… Free and Paid towards your privacy, protection and just good practices with your peace of mind in the usage of the Internet through PCs For People.
Although free has more of a consequence to an individuals privacy, there is really no guarantee that a paid product by way of your paying for it, offers you any more of a guarantee in that of your data won’t be collected and then sold on to others, which can then lead to cause you harm and damages in your life.
Privacy Statements have evolved to lengthy statements, and terms with the wordage being used needs an attorney to hash it over for a clear and beneficial understanding of what your agreeing too.
WOT users had a profile created of their use with it in the date, time, place and Web IP address together with an assigned user ID.
There is talk of not only free and paid online services and installed software, browser add-ons, and even the Win 10 OS all are doing this but, that maybe all points are up for grabs now ?
This is also true with drivers, as the case with NVIDIA adding Telemetry to their Latest Drivers update. Telemetry is essentially considered spying by many as it’s a way to send data back and forth. What it’s doing in our video drivers when it’s never been needed before.
An entire industry has grown around buying all this information about our digital lives, from your ISP, OS, installed applications, metro apps, mobile apps to the websites one may visit.
Our Data is collected for harvesting our personal information, interests, habits, etc. and data from the online world is merged with personally identifiable information from the offline world, everyday, says the head of global privacy and public policy at Acxiom, a leading data collection firm to The New York Times.
It’s like examining a cross-cut of an adult tree growth rings, you see an extended picture of it’s life, so it’s also true with the collection of our data – just think of a two year period online what could be learnt of ourselves.
A new class of slime as Data Brokers are even offering up biding on the real-time web visits to a high value profile of a user once their being tracked across the web.
This network involuntarily collection and use of people’s data that’s not approved by themselves, can then link to a number of personal online services, interests, group associations, as well as banking, medical, and job related to each of the profiled users, not to mention many other online visits as the activity of the user may demonstrate.
What this can lead to is identity thefts among other personal hardships such as job, insurance denials and not to say of the simple harassment of spam to themselves.
The trading of personal data by organized criminal gangs which is then used to commit fraud against individuals and corporate organizations has become one of the fastest growing crimes in the world.
This is of my setup as I use the web-
OS = Windows
Browser = IE11 with StartPage as my homepage and search engine,
starting to use SlimJet as a second web browser
Kaspersky KIS = antimalware w/ firewall and Emsisoft antimalware
RoboForm = password manager for website logins w/ strong password generator
Maxa = cookie manager covering many browsers – cache/history/cookie deletion w/ cookie evaluation – white/black lists
Adguard = ad blocker w/ personal privacy modules and settings
KeyScrambler = encrypts my keyboard key strokes
VPN = hides my real IP address
All these are paid for except web browser-search engines.
So how and what do you use to help yourselves combat the alarming information I gave above?
Thanks,
Steve
PS: free web based email services are also mining your data, I’m learning to use POSTEO out of Germany for my emails now,
A paid service which is much cheaper than StartMail by the same people as StartPage search engine.
Steve says
@Vint
I get it now what you’ve been saying and that you have indeed been to the Hotspot Manager web UI page.
Mine has this same info-
“Next cycle begins on 12/31/2016”
and different from yours is this-
“Billing Cycle 0 GB LEFT 28 days left”
“Current Session Usage 1.00 GB used 1d 19h Elapsed time”
Tis not my anniversary date either and most likely when P4P business account resets but, as I will state we’re on an unlimited plan and other than the 23GB point we shouldn’t worry with it.
I wouldn’t pay much attention to these readings as they are not necessary – being on an unlimited plan that we are.
There is that of Sprint, when they specify 23GB for their users as a point that network management would kick in. This is not throttling as it would still be affective till the end of your billing cycle, but, called Network Management and is used when you have used 23GB in data for the month and Sprint reserves the right to de-prioritize the traffic of high bandwidth users on unlimited data plans.
What this means to a 23 GB data user then is the customers engaged in data intensive applications may experience reduced performance until the site becomes unconstrained or the user moves to a non-resource constrained site. Site means tower serving up your network signal. See my earlier post of October 25, 2016 at 1:48 pm , for a lot more on this topic. https://www.cheapinternet.com/low-income-internet/pcs-for-people/comment-page-3#comments
You asked this- “Is this the only forum where we can converse on this topic?”
Try the one I mentioned before HF-
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1882507-PCs-for-people?highlight=PCs+For+People
For device specific it’s also a good place…
Thanks,
Steve
Steve says
@Vint,
I had made some inquires to SALES at P4P before my purchase, as I’ve said earlier Chris G. was very helpful to me. He had set aside a Fuse HS if I acted in a certain time frame, which I did.
I still would contact P4P about the return of Franklin HS in hopes that P4P would then send you the Fuse model. Explaining to them most of what you have to me of in a good solid Sprint coverage area and of your past experience on the same network with FreedomPop and it being with the Fuse Model HS.
Some early mornings here my HS has rebooted as maybe it’s a network thing being done and maybe why your HS went off-line and didn’t return – yes beings a different time period than I mentioned of mine doing it. Maybe some network update has to be preformed periodically?
About the two Gigs more of use, are you sure a neighbor isn’t tapping your connection as well? Maybe after the restart it linked up better as was able to also update your network usage.
Have you changed your default WiFi password and chosen that of a proper Encryption – maybe like(WPA2_Personal_AES) mode.
This is all new to me – as well in moving from a hardwired in nature internet, to the tethering of my PC off my phone for a while, to this kind of a setup in mobile internet with a hotspot. A shared closeness with that of my phone but, on a totally different network.
Some times I read on http://www.howardforums.com/forumdisplay.php/53-Sprint for tips, tricks, and hacks that others have knowledge of. Careful if you join cause it’s an al la cart of moderators desecration if they see you as advertising or a nuisance poster which leads to warnings and a possible ban. I joined when I was tethering off my phone to my PC and spoke of deals from my MVNO I had seen. I just visit without logging in now that makes searches harder with the captcha used every time a new search term is entered. If you search from your browsers search box as close as you can think of – the links there will take you directly to that topic in the forms at HF.
I would encourage you to visit the Mobile Hotspot Manager
http://MyHotSpot or http://192.168.1.1 , this is on Sprints end of things with our hotspots, Though the paper work sent with the Franklin may be a different address but, I would think Sprint sould use only one central site and it being for all of it’s network hotspots.
I’m curious as I see this now of “SIM Security” under settings there >Network>SIM Security, then it reads as”SIM Security: Inactive”.
October 26, 2016 at 10:48 pm I had shared this information earlier:
3rd. This is how everything is setup… Mobile Beacon owns the rights to a certain frequency that Sprint wants to use. In order to use the frequency that MB owns, Sprint has to provide a low-cost internet service to eligible low-income people. Sprint has agreed, and then Mobile Beacon works with the non profit business PCs for People to work directly with the eligible recipients and provide them troubleshooting support. For support, you contact us first. If there is something that we cannot handle or do, we contact Sprint directly to figure out the issue.
That’s were Sprint comes in to the picture and that P4P is only a business partner and as such a business account with Sprint that we all share – that’s the way it’s setup. We’re not supposed to be able to contact Sprint directly without first being connected through and by P4P to Sprint’s Tech support.
Back when I joined P4P, they had just rolled out their Internet service to all of Sprint’s National coverage areas as it was only a prior offering to Colorado or Minnesota residents, I do believe.
Chris had told me all answers I sought mostly and had offered a direct phone number to Sprint Tech or customer service which ever one he gave me (I’ve not used it) and it’s posted twice here abouts in my answers and I won’t post it again.
PLEASE DO POST A LINK- “As far as not being able to unlock the devise and use with another Sprint service, it has a sim card in it and it works with Sprint and I did read somewhere on pc4p site that they could be used elsewhere and if and when I find where I read that information I will copy it and send it to all.”
I’m very interested to read this and correct my statement as being ready for the junk pile or recycler – of these hotspots.
Thank,
Steve
PS: these might interest you and others here-
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1889475-Franklin-R850-amp-External-Antenna
This unlimited Sprint internet plan is shared to other businesses for a much higher pricing point as some are covered in the later parts of this thread-
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1875694-quot-Unlimitedville-Unlimited-Sprint-Hotspot-Plans-for-42-99-month-quot-2-year-contract-Bus?s=89fb502302718e1ce0b2ecd62647732f
Vint says
@Steve,
Again thanks for all of the information you give us on pc4p. As far as our anniversary date goes we started on 11/25/16 so that doesn’t jive with the date on the device. How did you get a Netgear Fuse from them? Do you live close to one of their retail stores or did you request one? This question you will not be able to answer but others who have the Franklin hotspot might, We went outside an hour ago and when we came in 30 minutes later the hotspot had shut off. Wouldn’t turn back on and the battery is charged. I removed the battery and re installed and it came back on but showed 2 more Gigi bytes of data used. This is really weird as we have not had any problems with the Netgear Fuse we have from FreedomPop. As far as not being able to unlock the devise and use with another Sprint service, it has a sim card in it and it works with Sprint and I did read somewhere on pc4p site that they could be used elsewhere and if and when I find where I read that information I will copy it and send it to all.
I will send another email to pc4p and find out what they have to say about the unit cutting off, but if there is some way I can get my hands on a Netgear Fuse in its place I would do it as it seems to be a better device. I also don’t understand why we as the customer of pc4p should have to jump through hoops and deal with Sprint ourselves to get the device to function correctly the way it is supposed to. As I have stated several times, we live in a solid 4glte Sprint coverage area and do not have the same signal problem with FreedomPop on the Netgear Fuse, it always has 2 bars and 60% of the time it is 3 bars so this sounds like a pc4p problem not on our end. I look forward to hearing back from you,
Happy Trails
Vint
Steve says
@ Vint,
You’ve said- Have you noticed a cycle end date on your Franklin hotspot – when I cycle through the menu on the Franklin hotspot I noticed a cycle end date of 12/31/16.
I’m on the Netgear Fuse so our menus will be different and I don’t have that listing. This 31st date wouldn’t be the day you activated your hotspot (turned it on and connected to the web) would it?
Cycle – sounds to me like when your billing changes over to a new month. This is the only thing I can think of, you might call P4P and find out for sure – if they can’t tell you have them connect you with Sprint Tec support them and ask there.
While I was speaking to a P4P agent today she said she could connect me with a Sprint Tech agent and I had her do just that.
I spoke to him of my one bar and he had me go online to the Hotspot web interface and reset it by setting tab on the left menu there > then Network tab at top > then Update Profile box down the page some. http://MyHotSpot or http://192.168.1.1 this is on Sprints end of things with our hotspots…
I told him I saw 3 bars flash on briefly and then went back to 1 bar,
the tech agent said it will take some time and if it was still the same tomorrow call P4P and have them connect me back to Sprint Tech support. He did say the most I would see is 3 bars.
We spoke of signal boosters and he said they were only available to phone users, I ask if I could buy my own elsewhere and use it and he said yes. If I call him tomorrow I’ll see if we can buy them separately on our own through Sprint to use.
I did find out with these Hotspots we are not able to unlock them if we are no longer eligible for Internet service from PCs For People to maybe use them with Boost or FreedomPop on Sprints network.
I asked don’t we own them then and the P4P agent said yes you do own it but, it was set up to use on a business account.
So their JUNK to us after we’re no longer are eligible for their Internet service and it can’t be used with another Sprint provider – – heck we can’t even use it again if we should become eligible for PCs For People Internet service at a later time.
The way it stands now if we were to become eligible down the road we must buy a new Hotspot again with a prepaid subscription term.
This is somewhat covered in the article above on the Hotspot – just not as transparent as P4P could of answered in these details as it didn’t cover that these Hotspots are for one service and are doomed to the recycler after it’s use on their Internet service. That’s not a good business move to being GREEN in todays world.
Steve
Vint says
@ Steve,
Thanks for the updated information, I would still like to know if you have some understanding of the cycle date on the device and on the Sprint my hotspot page where it states amount of Gigi bytes used and left in the cycle. Mine states that the cycle changes at the end of the month and the limit is 60 Gigi bytes. Since we are all dealing with an MVNO buying from Sprint and we are using PCs for People as the conduit these cycle dates and Gigi bytes allowed may no matter. Since I am new to this, and you may have more experience I thought you might know. Is this the only forum where we can converse on this topic?
Thanks,
Vint
Steve says
@ Henry
You’ve stated- “but the number of laptops for sale was higher when I placed my order.”
This is cause of supply and demand and just what they would have on hand ready to go. The laptop link below shows this message now-
“No products found.”
In the Black Friday email I received it had this part-
“Customization – Build your computer” ,
with right above it of the following Link -v-
Laptops – Starting at $85 / View Laptops https://www.pcsrefurbished.com/sales/categorySales.aspx?categoryID=4
If your in the market for a Laptop or even a Desktop and want it to offer certain things/features I’d call them and see what they can do.
Might even be possible to get on an early bird list or a heads up notice when they would be expecting more laptops to offer on their site.
I could say email sales at PCs For People and ask in that way
sales@pcsforpeople.com
This hasn’t work to good for me lately as I address them to Chris G. which I have written to before but he hasn’t answered my last two.
I did get an answer from Anna F. in an email to sales about my cart and the 15% discount though. I asked the Phone agent there today, if Chris was still working there and she said she was not at liberty to say. So I don’t know about Chris – he was nice and offered much information to me.
Steve
Steve says
@ Vint, and Henry as well as everyone else here on PCs For People Internet service:)
The thing we all need to look in to is moving our Anniversary Date to fall within the time frame of Black Friday / Cyber Monday Holiday periods. If we would want to take full advantage of these 15% / 10% off discount days on a 12 month subscription plan basis in the future.
That is if they run them again which is a 50/50 chance of them doing so.
I made a call while typing this – to them (#9 inline) to talk to a staff member. Their phone system does update your wait status while waiting on hold letting you know of your position inline has changed.
It also gives you a periodic opportunity’s while on hold to leave a voice mail if you wish to and not to stay waiting on hold any longer.
This is my first call I’ve placed to PCs For People and the waiting by an updating system seems to move fast enough (as maybe there is more than one staff taking calls), the music being played isn’t to bad.
Being at #9 and I’m answered in 17 minutes now.
Changing of your Anniversary Date:
By flat out quitting your Internet service – it is possible by quitting your Internet service entirely and getting a refund sent to you in 10 days but, it’s NOT BENEFICAL, because once you do that you have to buy a new Hotspot device all over again with them in the starting over or up a new Internet Service subscription term period with them.
-One exception – they said is when your bill becomes due don’t pay it right away, and when you do pay it – this changes your anniversary date in that way of the day you paid on.
I asked how long is it of a time frame, before I’m kicked out of the system for good in not paying. She stated they don’t do that. She didn’t answer my question directly with a time period but, said you will remain in the system.
I can see where a recertify may be needed here, if you were to go for
to long of a time without paying.
So that’s the only way I have found out to change your Anniversary Date. By the adding of some months now to fall just short a month or two of November’s month and not paying for the month(s) just before November will reset your Anniversary Date to when you do pay them.
Of course this means “NO” PCs For People internet for a spell if you do… In being existing Internet customers and of a 15% discount on a years subscription price (12months) is only a $18.00 savings to you.
Which breaks down to a $1.50 a month and not worth it to me personally.
PS: It seems that of some question the customer service agent will not or is not authorized to discus with me and I have a return call set from Supervisor to ask these. So if I can ad something later I will.
Thanks for reading,
Steve
Vint says
@ Steve,
To answer your question about the bars on the device as far as I can tell, and I have to put my glasses on to see it as it’s so small, there is only one bar showing. In contrast, our Netgear Fuse hotspot from FreedomPop has a larger display and with it we get two bars most of the time and sometimes three. With the Franklin hotspot the three of us can all get on without any problems, I have downloaded updates to programs and though sometimes it is slow I haven’t had any problems so far. I have been online this week doing research and the signal did drop off and slow down a few times but it came back quickly. When using the Netgear Fuse from FreedomPop last month we never had any problems either to speak of, as I stated before we are in a solid area of Sprint 4glte and the tower is 2 to 3 miles away. Have you noticed a cycle end date on your Franklin hotspot? Just curious.
Happy Trails,
Vint
Vint says
We have had our service for 7 days and so far so good. I did ask PCs for people about the black Friday discounts and they responded back saying it was a one time deal, so snooze you loose in other words. This question is for anyone who has more experience with them, when I cycle through the menu on the Franklin hotspot I noticed a cycle end date of 12/31/16. Does anyone know what this is or what it means, if so I would like to know. I’ll bet Steve knows. Thanks for all of the help everyone has given me I appreciate it, having internet for 1/3 the cost of Big Cable is a blessing. TWC/Charter have sent us four offers in the mail for their services since we cut the cord, It used to take weeks to get responses back from them when we had their services.
Happy Trails,
Vint
Henry says
I got my subscription service and computer at the end of October, so the 15% discount on Black Friday and 10% discount for Cyber Monday were offered after my purchases. I guess I jumped the gun too quickly on the offers. But I guess I was able to cancel the higher priced services for a month, so the savings there helped to cushion missing the discount offers during the Thanksgiving holiday period. It seems that more sales occurred during last weekend than when I purchased, but the number of laptops for sale was higher when I placed my order.
Steve says
@ Vint,
Wishing you some luck here in your email contact to them.
To where I had stated in the Black Friday sale comment earlier of this-
“I would say at least – start an account and place an order just short of paying for it on Black Friday, so it will possibly be honored later, that’s for anyone that don’t have one yet.”
Will I had an account already and tried this in adding some months time on my subscription but, as I was only shown the largest time of a 6 month extension period I could add.
So I did add that 6 months to my cart and then had to re-submitted my current eligibility proof – then I logged out without completing my order, and then sent an email to PCs FOR People about what I did, and that of not seeing a whole year I could add and questioning why.
I then got an email on the 29th saying-
“The system will only allow you to have no more than 15 months of service on a device (as we need to update proof on a yearly basis) and that is why you could not complete the order for a year subscription.”-” You can still get the 3 or 6 month subscription at 15% off if you place the order by 5:30 today (end of business day) but unfortunately, you cannot get the year at the discounted price.”
I just now checked my PCs For People account and of my adding earlier to the 6 months subscription extension with the 15% off discount – it is still being shown in my cart there. That’s tonight of this 30th date. If it’s still there in the morning I will try to purchase it and report here of what happens then.
Maybe Vint, this is food for thought to you and as in knowing of my experiences with my cart there.
By the way Vint, out of my curiosity with your stated good reception – how many bars is your Hotspot showing? I have only one, rare for two but, is true of sometimes like 5%. I’m able to open many webpages at once and do all I care to do in normal web use with my one bar and seems good in speed and responsiveness.
On the subject of PCs for People Holiday Sales/Specials, I wished once a PCs For People member has gotten a discount applied, it would then become reoccurring to them from that point onward in any subscription renewals they make. Just my 2 cents…
Thanks,
Steve
Vint says
I will email them today and see if they will give me the holiday discount anyway, you never know. After 2 full days of unlimited 4glte we are very satisfied with the hub hotspot and the mega bytes per second we are getting from it are great. My daughter, wife and I are all on at the same time without any lag at all, we are in a solid 4glte area of Sprint data and the tower is only 3 miles down the road and I am sure this helps. I will keep all updated as we test this forward. Thanks for all of the help and information.
Vint
Steve says
NOTE: 11-27-2016
I had once thought and believed – in that of a whole total sum to a12 months Internet subscription term of a per-paid period, was all one could enroll in and then be valid and approved by PCs For People.
I now see in the PCs For People email sent to me of the Cyber Monday Special 10% off sale, it has this added information:
“”*You must provide new proof of eligibility once per year. Each account has a maximum of 15 months, so all plans may not be visible.””
So you still must recertify your eligibility every 12 months on/or just before your Anniversary Date. You are able in fact to prepaid up to a maximum of 15 months, instead of the 12 months I had written here.
Then, I’m in the understanding if you are not eligible any longer for their program of cheap internet service because you don’t qualify now.
Beings then, if this non-qualifying results in a surplus remaining of your prepaid Internet payments available to you, after this of your Anniversary Date, PCs For People will then do a refund in any of your unused Internet prepaid months remaining on your account.
Hope I’ve made this a bit clearer to help you understand.
Thanks,
Steve
Steve says
Hey all, I got another email from PCs For People advising of a 10% off on everything Cyber Monday Special.
Use this code just like this – cybermonday10
Using the Coupon:
Select the products you wish to purchase and enter the coupon code ” cybermonday10 ” at checkout.
[ If a new customer have your eligibility document prepared to upload (copied to a file format of .jpg or .pdf and others), while your enrolling and purchasing what you want. ]
All specials are while supplies last and only valid for purchases on 11-28-16, Cyber Monday.
Cheap Internet Readers:
Scroll down the page here on Cheap Internet and find the “Older Comments” link to see my comment of all that was covered in the Black Friday 15% off on everything sale, as the same items per their supplies availability are the same, just a little higher in price now.
This sale is going on now – though it’s for the Cyber Monday Special and is only 10% off on everything, and also a one day event as well.
I kind of had a feeling that PCs For People would run something once again on Cyber Monday, as the Black Friday Sale was only a one day event too.
It would be interesting to know if the prices shown are then discounted an additional 10% with the ” cybermonday10 ” code being used.
Like it list now –
New Customers – Modem + 3 Months Internet was $114.95 = $103.45 now.
And for anyone (existing or new customers) like Desktops – Start at $45.00 now.
So if someone could report here in either case, if of these lowered prices – were then discounted an additional 10% by the code being used. Which as I read and understand it should be the case.
Hope some of you are able to enjoy these additional discounts !
Thanks,
Steve
Steve says
Greetings V
Welcome, and that’s good to hear your in – sorry PCs for People could of worked something out for you in beings right at the discount drawn line as you were.
I guess they have to be strict somewhat on their programs actual discounted days they do offer. Have you tried to email them to see a final word on the subject?
What about talking to them about in the comings months, that if your anniversary date isn’t changed to be a few days later, you’ll be in the same boat next year. If they do in deed run some Holiday Discounts. Your term renewal will be due before any of the discounted days offered.
You do know that in the 3 months subscription term that your on, you can get any discounts applied during these days by upping your subscription term to any of the 3 or 6 months additional periods being added.
What I’m to understanding your just not allowed to go over a 12 months total in pre-paying, as around your 12 month anniversary date you’ll have to resubmit eligibility documents once again.
Stay tuned here, cause if I learn of any more discounts I’ll post them here for all readers to save even more on their already super low pricing they have.
Thanks for letting us know,
Steve
V says
Unfortunately we applied on the 22nd and then received an email the very next day of the reduced sale prices for Black Friday. It would be nice if they would give us the discount since it was so close but either way it is a big savings over BIG CABLE’S $40.00 per month internet. If you live in the coverage area there is not any reason if one qualifies to not get internet from PCs4 People. Happy Thanksgiving to all.
Vint
V says
Hello there Cheap Internet people,
Our Franklin hotspot arrived in the mail today and we are now getting 4glte unlimited from PCs4 People. We opted for 3 months to find out how good it works and it works great, we live in a great area of Sprint 4glte data and get very good reception. We saved up money and applied on Tuesday the 22nd and we were approved in less than 30 minutes and given an arrival date and it was shipped priority mail USPS. We wouldn’t have known about this option if not for cheap internet giving their time freely for those of us who can’t afford BIG CABLE prices. Personally I think 4glte broad band is only going to get better in the near future with better coverage, and the fact that it is portable and not tied to a cord is a big plus. Thank you for all of the help you provide as we had very few options left to us.
Best regards,
V
Steve says
Hey all I got an email from PCs For People advising a 15% off on everything Black Friday Sale.
Use this code just like this – blackfriday15
Using the Coupon:
Select the products you wish to purchase and enter the coupon code “blackfriday15” at checkout.
You can order online any time of the 24 hours in a day. Walk into store are possible – as Stores Open on Monday after Holiday weekend.
New and existing clients can come to any of our locations and purchase internet. Save on the cost of shipping by visiting an office near you.
New clients bring your proof of eligibility.
http://www.pcsforpeople.com/recipients/eligibility
Some of the deals are as follows-
Existing Internet Customers:
3 Months – $40 = $34.00 – Save $6 – Good Value
6 Months – $75 = $63.75 – Save $11.25 – Better Value
12 Months- $120 = $102.00 – Save $18.00 – Best Value
————————————————————————–
New Internet Customers:
PCs for People is offering high speed Unlimited LTE internet for as low as $8.5 per month. Plans are prepaid with no credit check or hidden fees.
Modem + 3 Months – $114.95 = $97.70 – Save $17.25 – Good Value
3 months of internet service at $11.33 per month and wireless modem.
Modem + 6 Months – $149.95 = $127.46 – Save $22.50 – Better Value – 6 months of internet service at $10.63 per month and wireless modem.
Modem + 12 Months – $194.95 = $165.71 – Save $29.25 – Best Value – 12 months of internet service at $8.5 per month and wireless modem.
All of this on this Unlimited on the Sprint LTE network !
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I would say at least – start an account and place an order just short of paying for it on Black Friday, so it will possibly be honored later, that’s for anyone that don’t have one yet.
This is almost unreal 15% off discount on top of the rock bottom prices PCs For People already have – jump on it if you can.
You know I’m going to be ready for this next year, to bad I’m broke till the 1st. now…
Thank,
Steve
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
Thanks, Steve. Great news for our readers.
Steve says
@CheapInternet.com Administrator and readers here,
A very happy Thanksgivings Day to you all, and as well for the remaining Holiday Season yet to come, may you find peace and love being close to your family members and enjoying theses times with them.
Of the two sites offered (Cheap Internet + Free Gov. Cell Phones), then with the information they contain, I’m receiving Phone service and Internet service for a cost to me of $10.00 monthly (which I pay annually).
I don’t know of any other sites which will indirectly offer news, topics and advise to their visitors in help and savings such as are found within these two sites without trying to be compensated directly in doing so.
I proudly offer the staff here and your sister site a three hardy and heart felt cheer of hip hip hooray to you…
Thank you very much and please do keep up your good works,
Steve
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
And the same to you and the rest of our readers, Steve. Thanks for all you’ve contributed to both websites in 2016.
Steve says
I’d like to correct my calling Casey Sorensen, Executive Director at PCs for People as a her / which could very well be a HIM.
Since I’ve not spoken to this person I know not which is correct.
Getting a hold of PCs for People is a concern as Linda K. has pointed out. I haven’t tried to do this except in my mentioned month to month in a half back email to Chris at Sales there.
Even though sick time and vacations are to be considered there at Headquarters in Saint Paul, someone should still be reachable there at PCs for People wouldn’t you think? I hope Linda K. does persist and then would let us all know of her experiences of not only getting a hold of someone but, then of her using the PC and Internet service.
Thanks,
Steve
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
Just sent you another email, Steve. Check your spam folder.
Steve says
@Linda K. & Cheap Int. Admin.PCs for People,
Rest assured this is not a SCAM…
They are not a BBB affiliated business but, since 2008 have only gotten two complaints and one was when the change over from Clear service, “Unfortunately, since it is still in the early stages of a partnership, we have come across inconsistencies with how ****** is handling our customers and the help they are able to provide. We’ve learned that it is a training issue with ****** staff and are working with them to inform them how to best assist our customers.”
The other being of a customer “used an incorrect address and Sprint was unable to deliver. This resulted in the package being returned to Sprint, and Sprint hadn’t notified P4P of the trouble. Then the customer “disputed the payment for the modem through his bank. Since the payment had been disputed P4P no longer had the payment for the modem. When P4P spoke with the customer they informed him that P4P would happily send him a new modem but, he would need to contact his bank to let them know – he no longer intended to dispute the charge.”
https://www.bbb.org/minnesota/business-reviews/computers-service-and-repair/pcs-for-people-in-saint-paul-mn-96350445
I haven’t tried to buy a PC but, only the modem and Internet service, so I believe this info. should hold true for any contact to P4P sales. Try Chris Grillo > sales@pcsforpeople.com first and allow a few days for a return reply.
You can always try Casey Sorensen, Executive Director (651) 354-2552 Monday – Friday 9 am – 5:30 pm, there at PCs for People and let her know of your troubles. Should you receive “phone just of recordings” as you stated, try key entering 0, 00, or something while they are running. These are Headquarters at Saint Paul, MN 55104-6316.
Your also free to contact the Denver branch and ask about your contact trouble at Minnesota, email denver@pcsforpeople.org or by phone @ 720-278-7725, Office Hours Mon. – Fri. 10 am – 5:30 pm.
http://www.pcsforpeople.com/contact . There are other offices and number here as well. Try them all – you won’t be disappointed in the end product and services results and the saving…
Also try reaching out to their social media pages as well, https://www.facebook.com/pcsforpeople/
https://twitter.com/pcsforpeople?lang=en
Sometime back, I had sent Chris G. a question on something and have yet to receive an answer – which he may not of had one and/or working on it.
Chris G. had always been prompt in answering me before. Maybe something is wrong and he needed personal time. I know that P4P has a lot of volunteers based but, I think SALEs is not one you need to worry about. Then too if Chris is the only one that handles public contact and he is out for a spell, might be of concerns. He did state something to me of others in his office but, never said titles or names.
I don’t know how else to help you Linda K. but, to say it’s worth your while and do persist as I’m savings $500.+ my first year over the last Internet service I had…
Steve
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
Thank you, Steve. By the way, you’ve never responded to my email. Did you receive it?
Linda Krapf says
Is this a scam? I’ve tried to find a way to contact someone to talk to about the internet service and purchasing a computer. No e-mail address or via phone just recordings. What do I do?
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
This is the first complaint we’ve heard about PCs for People. Nothing but raves from everyone else who’s tried it. Let’s see what Steve, our resident expert on PCs for People, has to say about this.
Steve says
In a milestone ruling that will bring the US closer to Europe on the issue of online privacy, the FCC, by a vote of 3-2, has approved a bevy of new rules to protect users’ privacy. As a result, broadband behemoths such as Comcast and Verizon will be prohibited from collecting and disseminating (read: selling) information about users – such as the websites they’ve visited, and the apps they’ve used.
Additionally, broadband providers, according to the new regs, must obtain permission from subscribers to gather and give out data on their web browsing, location, and financial information. Neither will they be allowed to transmit health data, financial information, Social Security numbers, and the content of emails and other digital messages without the user’s okay.
Before you get too giddy, though, and without trying to diminish their importance, the sweeping rules don’t apply to the more avaricious online ad titans – including Google, Facebook, and other web companies. These are not subject to the new decrees, because the FCC does not have jurisdiction over web companies. This is a pity, as these are considered by many to be the most annoying ad abusers of consumers.
Source: https://www.bestvpn.com/fcc-drops-the-hammer-on-isps/
Steve says
@Henry Hello,
Could it be something of the tower demand and the night and morning testing periods you did?
I’ve read on forums that the one bar really is not a good indication of your performance being delivered to you. That it could be as mine and drops off from registering frequently which is not steady and still being a good signal to do normal emails, web searches, etc.
Since we can’t use other than supplied Hotspots with this service it’s hard to test out others or even move the SIM to another device as a phone to know. You think Mobile Beacon has done something to these as they come to us activated already and PCs for People states- “”Unfortunately, Mobile Beacon’s activation process with Sprint does not currently allow users to supply their own device. We have asked that our users be allowed to purchase or utilize existing devices several times and we will provide updates if the current policy changes.””
There’s some good communities on the web for questions and answers with the focus on Sprint if you join and ask there anything from device to towers and in between. You might try different web browsers too. I’m trying out Slimjet from time to time.
Thanks for your input on your speed tests and anything else you come across.
Steve
Henry says
@Steve
I just ran another speed test against the Franklin R850 hotspot just now and the download/upload speed is now <10/<3 Mbps which is an improvement from last night. Not sure why the readings would vary like that. Calm weather here for both days. I also saw the device register three bars for about a minute and then drop back to one bar. Seems to waver intermittently. Quite odd because I do not experience that with other hotspots.
Henry says
@Steve
I ran a speed test to compare the upload and download on the hotspots. The previous two hotspots recorded speeds of >18/>17 and >10/>2 for download/upload speeds in MB/Sec. Pinging the same server, the Franklin Hotspot recorded speeds of >5/<1
When going to the pcsforpeople store front webpages, the loading time to refresh a webpage by the Franklin hotspot is slower. Most likely because I only get one bar signal strength on the hotspot. The others show three to four bars. All are in the same vicinity area from my computer.
Henry says
@Steve
I started connecting with the new hotspot and so far, I get only one bar signal strength. I normally get two, three, or four bars with my other device (one that is also using Sprint service). Both hotspots are close to one another and the detected signal strength is different. I wonder if there is a problem with the hotspot. Boost Mobile is also offering this same model for their service. I moved it around the house and would see two bars near the window, but it never stays at two bars. When I put it outside, it does to three bars, but then it exposes it to outside elements. Back last year, the router that I used for Clear service (which was taken over by Sprint) always had two, three, an sometimes four dots to show strength. I also noticed that the reception to my computer drops the further away the hotspot is located. When I place it next to the computer, the reception improves to four to five bars on the network diagram.
I am going to run some speed tests to compare it against the other hotspots that I have and to see if the download/upload speeds are similar or not. I am not a computer gamer or video streamer, so as long as I get reasonable speeds (at least better than dialup), the low monthly cost plan is still worth keeping.
Steve says
@Henry – Greetings
You’ve stated “Signal strength in my house is often between two and three bars.”
So that of ports for external antennas may not have been that beneficial to you. I was told near a window is better, which in my case is where mine is but, having the older heavy metal awning doesn’t help me much and only offers some improvements.
Should the need arise or your wanting to experiment with other options – the MSL Code (Master Subsidy Lock code) to unlock your hotspot device, which is only obtainable through Sprint (see my earlier comment for the phone number I was given). Although I haven’t called yet myself, I believe that Sprint will want your phone number of your hotspot device (yes for some reason it has a phone number – probably being on a cell network, even though for data only), which is seen from the Mobile Hotspot Manager – (Browser Interface) under “My Account>My Number” somewhere there, that the literature in the hotspot package tells you how to get to and use this feature.
May be some food for thought then, as I understand from my reading that Sprint uses three signals or radio bands B25, B26 and B41, and without unlocking the hotspot you can’t choose which one is being delivered to you specifically. I’m not even sure if all are offered in that of – all of the covered Sprint national network service areas – again something that’s needed to know within your area and going in this direction.
My comment about the other network and plan I was on, was just an experimentation to justify the expense and if truly I was unlimited on the tier they claimed. So seeing 100-300GB’s use to try and see was truly excessive for me and required me using it needlessly for this experiment. How else could I see meaning from the claims.
I respect my fair usage on Sprint and average 15-20 GB’s a month, and it’s really only what I need or require from it.
Thanks, Steve
Steve says
@CheapInternet.com Administrator, Hello
I’d be interested in these findings and especially of the antennas used for OTA – On the Antenna local TV networks reception.
Just as in my experiences with cell networks here at my home the same weak signals are experienced with over the air networks, some channels liken to a slow strobe lights actions and others with intervals of pixilation.
I’ve read that the old rabbit-ears still works for some people in the digital format being used now and even some claiming that stripping a coaxial cable outside housing some 5-6 foot is all they needed to do.
I don’t know if these are hoaxes as in some home-made DIY antennas information’s out there. The antenna I have now I is amplified with rabbit-ears style, and I’ve cut the ends off and looped an old car antenna between each cut off end, then used aluminum foil to cover the radius of that loop, it helps for the most part on stronger channels.
When is an amplified antenna really needed?
On the subject of PCs for People and with the up coming Dec. 1st. changes to the Lifeline program in the adoption of broadband in to the program. Have you reached out to PCs for People and gotten their views and comments, if they are thinking of heading into the Lifeline Broadband realm. Obtaining a Lifeline Broadband Provider (LBP) Designation? Service providers that will provide only Lifeline-supported broadband service, and not Lifeline-supported voice service, are called Lifeline Broadband Providers (LBPs).
LBPs are a type of ETC and must seek their designation through the FCC. LBPs may be designated across multiple states through a single application process.
With PCs for People as an eligible ETC, then people who benefit from the Lifeline program could apply those discounted benefits to the PCs for People Internet service possibly bypassing the up front costs in the yearly saving pricing and enroll that way, and the only expense to them would be for the Hotspot device. All this with guaranteed government money to P4P as long as they are eligible by the means designated by FCC and us users by the Lifeline programs requirements to have only one Lifelines benefit applied how ever we choose to use it and being eligible as the program requires.
Thank you in advance for your thoughts and comments,
Steve
Hope I haven’t lost you in my thinking
Henry says
@Steve
I did find some online pissed consumer complaints about the outage last August. Some still are having problems. Since it is not relevant to this company topic, I will let it pass.
On the order form webpage, the Netgear Fuse hotspot was only available for people in MN. All others were relegated to the Franklin hotspot. The Novatel MiFI 500 device was no longer offered.
Signal strength in my house is often between two and three bars. I occasionally even have gotten four bars if moved the device to different parts of the house. The only time that I get one bar is during a storm which obstructs the signal from the tower. According to the Sprint coverage map, I am in an excellent reception area for 4G LTE.
100 to 300GB per month? Not even close for me. I do not watch TV or movies on a computer or phone. It might be convenient during road trips in a car or camping, but I usually just watch the free TV OTA. None of that DVR, Vudu, Netflix, etc.
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
We’re going to assume that OTA means Over the Air or Off the Antenna. That’s an option that more and more people are turning to, including FreeGovernmentCellPhones.net’s Administrator, who just made the move back to an antenna this week. We’ll be updating our readers on his experiences being off cable.
Steve says
@Henry,
Hi – not to ignore your question about ‘T” network, but my other response was long. We really should focus on Sprint here from PCs for People. Agree 🙂
Anyways you can look at – Steve says – September 17, 2016 at 9:32 am @Rae, to get an ideal somewhat of the account I had. I got tired of the uncarriers extremely weak signal to my home where I spend 97% of my time and 70% of that online.
As to the troubles you spoke of in August I’m not aware of or now concerned – the uncarrier has done some good things and then some not so well on top of that, as it tries hard to be everyone’s connection to the mobile internet. I will say the plan I was able to get was unlimited and of a contractors grade not to be slowed in anyway as I understood every GB was paid for already as such in a pool or a tier 1 level plan. I still saw slower than usual network responses in peak times on my always weak signal already. I used 100-300 GB’s a month while I was on this plan in testing how much I could use, first few months went well then something happened and the reseller wasn’t any help and suggested more equipment to get from the service what I had already seen and no guarantees to me except to return it for a refund if it didn’t help.
So I went looking and found forums mentioning Sprint accounts with associations like that of Home Depot business accounts and Insurance companies and that of other business in offering unlimited internet from a Sprint reseller for as low as $50.00 Monthly for a two year contract. Then I stumbled upon PC’s for People and haven’t look back and in my current financial situation to remain the same I’m with them for my life.
Now I’m saving more money and have what’s still referred to as unlimited usage and NOT in the terms of not being capped and then slowed to a crawl for the remainder of a billings cycle.
(QOS and NM practices after 23GB’s is understandable and accepted by me)
Then the signal reception I receive and the speed remains constant for the one bar – in rare times two bars I have seen, and still much better than the last few months with one bar on the T network account I had.
Henry you might google what happened to “T” in August or search the forum for one called Howard and look there in T topics.
Thanks, Steve
Steve says
@Henry
Well welcome anyway, it’s nice to have your input here as well, as you’ll be experiencing the PCs for People company and it’s Sprint internet service, hopefully sharing your views with all of us.
Please remember, as a non-profit PCs for People relies heavily on it’s volunteers, some of which couldn’t work anywhere else to get the training their receiving from P4P and then maybe be able to move on into a paid position there or somewhere else.
That’s not saying for you to expect this on your ordering from P4P and as I believe the training is related to the reconditioning and recycling of PC’s and the other services they offer to the business world to help sustain the supply of PC’s and aid in their overhead.
I would like to see PCs for People to grow and expand out and directly to cover 2-4 State regions in the other services they offer keeping our landfills freer from older technology hardwares.
I was able through email contacts to sales prior to my purchase to obtain a Fuse Hotspot (I understood supplies were very limited), which the MiFi 500 Hotspot was shown on my ordering page and I cancelled this transaction. I was concerned about my signal delivery here which I’ve experienced poor reception from others networks and wanted this Fuse model Hotspot – as it has the external antenna ports should I need to use them for my signals improvement.
The Franklin R850 Hotspot is the latest model from Sprint and I think it was being offered too when I ordered but, it didn’t show in my ordering page and then I didn’t understand it to have the antenna ports and I’ve read for a cell signals boost to devices without external antenna ports, (using such as a Wilson weBoost) costing hundreds of dollars and in defeating my 1st years saving significantly.
I reached out to P4P sales and asked to be able to have my MSL Code, which I understood from other forums can be used to unlock the Hotspot device to get another one of the signals from the Sprints network towers to maybe help in that of a stronger signal for reception being received, otherwise your unable to do this as the hotspot is on autopilot, as to say in determining this for you, which may not be the strongest to your area.
Below are my notes from answers I received from P4P sales and hope them to help in any questions you or others may have.
Notes from my contact to P4P sales:
1st. The term date is started three business days after the device has been sent. The device will be active when it arrives.
You are a PCs for People customer. Therefore, you won’t work with Sprint or Mobile Beacon directly.
2nd. Side Note: Does PCs for People have direct dealings with Sprint as I need or want to get my MSL Code (Master Subsidy Lock code), this code will unlock my device, and Sprint my wireless provider keeps the code on file. I believe each code is special to each device and it’s only obtainable through Sprint.
***The MSL code is needed in case I need to reset the device in the future to factory settings.***
The Netgear Fuse hotspot device requires it for entering those field of the “Mobile Hotspot Manager” (Browser Interface) at http://myhotspot/ , which is really the functioning part of the Fuse Hotspot as any settings and changes made are only to be accessed there from that UI.
3rd. This is how everything is setup… Mobile Beacon owns the rights to a certain frequency that Sprint wants to use. In order the use the frequency that MB owns, Sprint has to provide a low-cost internet service to eligible low-income people. Sprint agreed, and then Mobile Beacon works with PCs for People to work directly with the recipients and provide them troubleshooting support. For support, you contact us first. If there is something that we cannot handle or do, we contact Sprint directly to figure out the issue.
4th. “The warranty starts from the date Sprint activates a device on behalf PCs for People, not when the device is received by the end user.” — A device is activated the day you purchased the device. Therefore, the warranty would start that day. Not the day it was shipped to PCs for People.
5th. I looked into the MSL codes. We do not have any here, nor have been made aware of any by Sprint. You are welcome to contact them at 1-877-236-8008. You can call that number for any other technical support as well.
You can always look back to my earlier comments here for more information as well.
Thanks, Steve
Henry says
@Steve
Thanks for the clarification regarding throttling and network management used by Sprint. Other carriers most likely do similar actions on their network.
I remember when there were multitude OS and PCs that could not “talk” to one another. Then those IBM commercials with the Charlie Chaplin character somehow became the de facto standard for PC manufacturers (with the exception of Apple). It would have been nice to have become like Bill Gates back then.
The PCs for People Sprint Internet order was just approved and being set up for shipping. The Hotspot is the Franklin R850 model (only choice available). Cannot say about the service since I have not gotten anything yet. As for savings from previous service, it is significant (over 75%). And I am not a “heavy user” (none of that streaming video stuff).
You mention about the “T” network. Was there some kind of change done on that network back in August? I ask because someone that I know who is a subscriber on that network reported an inability to get online after the SIM cards were rejected in late August. He is a subscriber through a third party company (not directly with the “T” network). The outage lasted for over a month for the people who subscribed through the third party company. I am sure it left many irate customers.
Steve says
From the link-
https://www.rvmobileinternet.com/resources/network-management-aka-throttling-practices-for-cellular-data-carriers/
All the way at the bottom is this about Sprint and it’s resellers and MVNOs. You’ll see PCs for People is CLEARLY called out for low income Americans and the best deal they’ll find anywhere.
History:
In June 2015, Sprint eliminated their ‘Fairness Algorithm, stating all usage is un-throttled, regardless of how much data you may have used the prior month. However, in October 2015, they rescinded this and implemented de-prioritization at 23GB. Starting October 30, unlimited data plans include 3GB of high speed tethering, and then unlimited 2G speeds after that. In August 2016, they replaced their unlimited data plan with Unlimited Freedom.
Sprint has a lot of resellers and MVNOs, and deals come and go all of the time.
Prepaid & Alternate Options:
◾Unlimitedville: Offers a rental unlimited data only plan for $100/month, that is not subject to throttling.
◾Boost Mobile: In February 2016, this reseller added mobile hotspot usage to all of their smartphone plans. Their unlimited smartphone plan includes 8GB/month of hotspot usage and is subject to network management after 23GB of usage a month.
◾Calyx Institute: This non-profit focused on internet privacy includes access to their unlimited Sprint 4G/LTE based plans to their Contributing Members, priced at $400/year (first year $500, which includes a mobile hotspot).
◾PCs for People: This non-profit focused on providing technology for low income households offers an unlimited Sprint 4G/LTE based plans for $10/month for those who meet the qualifications.
◾TPO Mobile: Sprint reseller offers their Infinity plan that is advertised as unlimited, however over the first 50GB is at full high speed. And there is no mobile hotspot use included.
Steve
Steve says
@Henry
Are you enjoying PCs for People Sprint Internet ?
If you are, welcome aboard.
How’s the service and which Hotspot did you get and what kind of yearly savings over your last service do you expect to see.
I know I am and it gets the job done better than the “T” network, as in the same location of mine, which is either on the edge of the network coverage or the somewhat deadspot area I live. I don’t know which it is, I just know it’s a better network delivery to me and way better pricing…
Something’s you’ve said of-
-I got into computers when punched cards were the way to input data before there was an internet.
I’ve been there and done that too and even the 9 track mag tape was used in my service days to send and receive data as well as card decks. All before the internet and personal computers…
Wished I’d stayed with it then but, who’d of thought then you be able to carry an even more powerful one in your pocket.
AND
-Many of the mobile carriers besides Sprint can “throttle” your throughput speeds when you have used up a certain amount of data. For Sprint, they specify 23GB for their users.
First being “”THROTTED”” was addressed and covered in the-
The FCC NET NEUTRALITY -[ but it appears it couldn’t address this topic any more that it has because – Spectrum, or the amount of Bandwidth available for the carriers to deliver, is a limited resource that they do need to manage.]
https://www.fcc.gov/consumers/guides/open-internet
◾Throttling: Broadband providers may not deliberately target some lawful internet traffic to be delivered to users more slowly than other traffic. The new rules apply to both fixed and mobile broadband service to protect your internet access.
FCC rules require broadband providers to be transparent about the services they offer and to provide sufficient information to empower you to make informed choices – including choices about speed, price, and network management practices.
And then Sprint seems to be open about it’s following these rules (and not throttling) and with it’s information below about Network Management (see link for thoroughly all of it) – and is it just working within these rules to be compliant and still to offer it’s network to all of it’s customers — still annoyingly — to your data, because this decision is about the amount of data, and not what you’re downloading.
https://www.sprint.com/legal/open_internet_information.html?ECID=vanity:networkmanagement
page.
Allocating Resources During Times of Congestion: Despite its best efforts to prevent congestion through managing tonnage and directing customers to the best available network resources, the demand on a particular network sector sometimes temporarily exceeds the ability of that sector to meet the demand. During these times, Sprint relies on the radio scheduling software provided by Sprint’s hardware vendors to allocate resources to users. This radio scheduling software includes a set of generic fairness algorithms that allocate resources based on signal quality, number of users, and other metrics. These algorithms are active at all times, whether or not the cell is congested; however, during times of congestion, the algorithms operate with the goal of ensuring that no single user is deprived of access to the network.
Real-Time Traffic Management System (RTTMS): Another tool Sprint has deployed to help improve the customer experience for the majority of customers during times and places where network resources are constrained is Sprint’s RTTMS. When a Sprint site is resource constrained, RTTMS works to identify the users consuming the most site resources, and reallocates a portion of the resources serving the data intensive users to other users engaged in less resource intensive activities. When RTTMS is activated on a resource constrained site, customers engaged in data intensive applications may experience reduced performance until the site becomes unconstrained or the user moves to a non-resource constrained site. Users of the resource-constrained site that are not engaged in data intensive actives should expect a better experience than they would have on the site if RTTMS not activated. Sprint’s RTTMS is user, content, application, and device agnostic and is intended to provide an improved experience for the majority of users when resources are constrained.
How does congestion management impact me and my data services?
The goal of congestion management is to ensure that all users during times of congestion have access to a fair share of the network resources and that no user is starved of resources.
When congestion occasionally occurs, customers may experience reduced throughput or speed compared to their normal experience on non-congested (network) sites.
So it’s a fact it has to happen to be fair to everyone on the network, here is a good read of-
Slowing down speeds gets a bit more confusing, and you’ll see terms like Throttling and Network Management.
Here’s the differences between the two: https://www.rvmobileinternet.com/resources/network-management-aka-throttling-practices-for-cellular-data-carriers/
Throttling: Is when a carrier *always* slows down speeds for the rest of the billing period after a certain amount of data usage.
Network Management: Is when a carrier reserves the right to de-prioritize the traffic of high bandwidth users on unlimited data plans. They generally have a target data amount (20-26GB of usage in a month), and after that is exceeded, if the customer is on a cellular tower that is experiencing congestion – their usage might be slowed down. But once the tower is no longer congested, full speeds resume.
Which Network Management is exactly what Sprint does on the PCs For People internet plan. Not Throttling…
Steve
Henry says
For those of you griping about the Sprint network management policy and “quality of service practices” that users are placed under, note that the current Spring mobile hotspot monthly costs are $115 for 30 GB. The hotspot is free if you go for the 2 year contract. The contract monthly costs “subsidizes” the cost of your hotspot (just like for smart phones). Regular customers are also subject to the same policies as those through other third parties. You can always sign up with the cable, satellite, or fiber optic companies that have reduced cost plans that do not limit your data use. Most of them, however, require that you have a child on the free school lunch program.
Henry says
If you want “no holds barred” internet service, then plenty of available plans offered by cable, satellite, and fiber optic companies. But you have to fork over at least $100 per month (non-promotional rates). Heavy duty users cannot pay monthly dirt cheap rates at this day and age. The now obsolete dial-up internet services were completely free (advertisers covered your use), but that model sunk right along with the dot com bust in 2000. Plenty of dial-up providers offer 56K baud rates at $10 a month. For heavy duty users, it will take many days and weeks before the movies finally download. S-L-O-W
Everybody wants to have their cake and eat it too.
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
With a big scoop of ice cream on the side.
Henry says
I came across this forum searching for cheap internet service. Near the end of 2015, there were several providers of Sprint WIMAX service which was unlimited data (such as Clear Communications, Freedom Pop, and Karma) for a “reasonable” monthly cost (usually $35 to $50). However, WIMAX network was shut down and the new offering of LTE service brought on users who gobbled up large amounts of GB per month. Many of the mobile carriers besides Sprint can “throttle” your throughput speeds when you have used up a certain amount of data. For Sprint, they specify 23GB for their users. Large numbers of users were exceeding what was considered normal usage, so the unlimited data plans got eliminated. Now, these companies only offer data package plans and you have to purchase extra GB amounts if you go over.
A lot of people have made their smart phones and computers to be like a video library. The devices are becoming more like an entertainment device rather than an educational or information/reference device. It is mostly commerce driven now. I got into computers when punched cards were the way to input data before there was an internet. Unfortunately, now those who are offline are at a disadvantage. Before the 1990s, this was not the case.
Kudos to PCs for People to help in providing those needy people from being further disadvantaged.
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
We agree, Henry. We absolutely lost it a couple weeks ago when one reader complained that his service provider wasn’t offering enough data. He was using 800 gigs per month. He admitted that he downloads two Netflix films per day. Like you said, these plans are meant for the truly needy, not those who want a luxury service.
Steve says
attaboy CheapInternet.com Administrator,
I couldn’t have said it any better and made the points you have made, then been as patient to any more abuse continuing on further.
Respect is given as it’s deserved, and respect deserved after a point of which it’s been given has to be earned…
Besides they really need to strike up a conversation with the Service Providers and not you when it gets technical or beyond a basic knowledge to understand something – if even to argue a point they think is legitimate…
It’s like saying I get SSI of $730.00 a month but, I can spend 5x that amount – so I should get more. The fact that I need more entitles me to more, and so what if others will go without because in the 5x of use to fulfill my needs!
If you’d imagine a Cell’s Network Tower supplying a neighborhood like a water main supplying that same neighborhood, if your constantly drawing the supply of resources and more people as you are doing this to, the whole receiving neighborhood suffers and stinks.
Then who said it was PCs For People that set the 23G’s limit, in everything I’ve read it was Sprint. Remembering the PCs For People Internet service is filling a gap to low-income Americans through a deal with Mobile Beacon, who’s initial deal is with Sprint to allow all of this.
http://www.mobilebeacon.org/faqs/
Is there a limit on the data usage with any of your 4G LTE service plans?
No, Sprint is providing Mobile Beacon’s users with an unlimited 4G LTE data-only plan subject to Sprint’s network management policy for the unlimited LTE plan it offers its own retail customers. There are no preset data caps or overage charges.*
* Sprint’s “Quality of Service” Practices (QoS): Unlimited customers who use more than 23 GB of data during a billing cycle will be deprioritized during times and places where the Sprint network is constrained.
https://www.sprint.com/legal/open_internet_information.html?ECID=vanity:networkmanagement
Why does Sprint manage its network?
Sprint manages its network with the goal of delivering the best possible mobile broadband Internet access experience to its customers. Mobile network resources are not infinite. Managing the network is essential to promote the use and enjoyment of mobile data by our customers.
By engaging in reasonable and responsible network management, Sprint can deliver the best possible mobile broadband Internet access experience to its customers.
Quality of Service (QoS): To help protect against the possibility that unlimited data plan customers that use high volumes of data may occupy an unreasonable share of network resources, Sprint employs network prioritization or QoS on the Sprint network.
Performance will return to normal as soon as the resource constraints have been relieved or the customer has relocated to a non-constrained location.
The nerve of some peoples kids. Yes it’s really the parents fault in their kids up-bringing, to that of the adults they become from their childhoods.
One can’t expect a champagne diet on a root beer budget…
Can they, and if their usage is that much – maybe they should stay
HARDWIRED and expect way more than a $10.- a month Bill.
I have one time in 6 months gone over 20G’s in a month and I’m on the Internet every day. Doing all normal stuff, except watching movies and web TV all day and all night long and then playing online games in between, downloading torrents, etc. . .
You’d be hard pressed to even find any mobile Internet service of a (1) gigabyte and (then it being capped or reduced speed at that) – offered at only $12.50 a month. (5) gigabyte’s (would still be capped and reduced in speed after) and run around $35. to $40. a month.
$10. a month ($120.00) for a year for Unlimited QoS Sprint Data is more than fair to low-income Americans in need of Internet…
Steve
PS: CheapInternet.com Administrator – someday will we have a “LIKE” buttom beside Reply one, as I would of used it only “Ha Ha”
Arawelo says
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CheapInternet.com Administrator says
You need to contact PCs for People directly, Arawelo. We are not affiliated with the company in any way.
Ashot says
I watch on average 2 full HD movies a day, lots of video calls on Skype and of course YouTube. And do not forget some 4k content available up there already. You are doing excellent job helping people in need, but corporate greed and impotent FCC leaving us helpless….
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
Jeez. What makes you think that corporate America should provide you with unlimited internet for $10. PCs for People isn’t even “corporate” America. It’s some good people who work their asses off to bring a great Internet product to people who couldn’t otherwise afford it.
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
As you can see below, Netflix says HD video eats up 3 GB per hour: “Watching movies or TV shows on Netflix uses about 1 GB of data per hour for each stream of standard definition video, and up to 3 GB per hour for each stream of HD video.”
Let’s do the math, Ashot. We’ll be generous and say each movie is two hours long. Two movies a day means four hours. Four hours x 3 GB per hour = 12 gigs a day. Multiply that by 30 days per month and you get 360 gigs per month. That’s less than half of what you claim to use. On top of that, we simply don’t believe that you watch two movies every day of the month. Even if you did, there’s no way for you to eat up another 360 gigs a month. There just aren’t enough hours in a day.
Go away. We’re not going to publish any of future comments you may leave. We’re here to help people who need it, not to debate with people like you.
Ashot says
Dear Administrator with all the respect believe me I know what is 23GB is, and it is virtually nothing…. My monthly usage is between. 800-900 GB. Right now I’m using Charter,s unlimited service for $60 a month which is too expensive for me,because I,m disabled right now. So this PC for all company should never do the 23 GB gimmick otherwise it sound like big scam….
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
If you truly use 800-900 gigs per month, your usage is freakishly high. Virtually no one eats up that much data. The only way you can possibly use that much data is to sit around all day downloading movies from Netflix.
That’s not what these programs were designed for. They are basic programs intended to help kids do their homework, and to help adults find jobs and keep in touch with medical professionals. You know, the basics.
Since you seem to think that the PCs for People program is inadequate, what more could they do for you? Provide you with popcorn, bonbons and large Cokes while you sit on your fat ass watching Guardians of the Galaxy and Fast & Furious 23 all day?
We Googled “What can I do with 250 gigs” and this is one of the answers we came up with.
_______________
It can be difficult to put a gigabyte — let alone 250 gigabytes — into actual usage context. Here are some examples of how different ISPs describe 250 GB of data usage:
Send 50 million plain text e-mails (at 5KB/e-mail)
Download 62,500 songs (at 4 MB/song)
Download 125 standard-definition movies (at 2 GB/movie)
Upload 25,000 hi-resolution digital photos (at 10 MB/photo)
(Source: Comcast)
Download 50,000 songs
Download 570 (1 hour) TV shows
Download 285 standard-definition movies
Download 25 high-definition movies.
(Source: Bell Aliant)
Download one high-definition movie (approx 8 GB) every day for 30 days
Ashot says
What a scam !!!—Unlimited customers who use more than 23 GB of data during a billing cycle will be deprioritized during times and places where the Sprint network is constrained.
Nothing excoting about this program. You will reach 23Gb in a matter of 2 days !!!
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
We don’t think you understand how much 23 gigs is, Ashot. It’s a huge number that allows you to do virtually anything online.
For those of you who do not know what Ashot is talking about, here’s a condition outlined on PCs for People’s website: “Unlimited customers who use more than 23 GB of data during a billing cycle will be deprioritized during times and places where the Sprint network is constrained.” In other words, after you use 23 gigs of data per month, your speeds may (not for sure, but “may”) be reduced.
We looked up what could be done with just 10 gigs. It’s staggering.
Email: Send or receive 204,800 text-only emails (1 text-only email = 50kb)
Web surfing: Nearly 70 hours of web surfing – General surfing only – no videos (2.5MB per minute = 150MB per hour)
YouTube: 270 x 5 minute 720p video clips (5 mins of YouTube = 37.5MB at 720p)
Internet TV: Nearly 20 hours of TV on Xbox 360)
Skype: 510 hours of voice calls OR 65 hours of camera calls
And that’s what you can do with just 10 hours. PCs for People offers 2.3 times as much. It would be hard to use that many gigs in a month.
Steve says
@Rae,
So good to hear that you’re enjoying PCs For People.
I’ve use the service and Hotspot for around 6 months now and it’s the same now as that of 6 weeks. Just letting you know what you can expect is the your experiencing right now.
Just before I was with a company that offered only to business customers, and at one time long ago I had applied for my EIN with IRS for a Sole Proprietor status – needless to say the business never got started, but I did have my Employer Identification Number (EIN).
I was using mobile Internet (data sim-cell networks), same principles as PCs For People, though with a T reseller company and not on the Sprint network. Using that DATA SIM in my smartphone to tether the Mobile Internet to my home desktop PC. A smartphone or mine was not made for this in a constant use state as my battery got very hot at times (I guess from poor signals), and this was a quality brand I had in so much caused my battery to swell even though it still works.
Bottom line here, after switching over to PCs For People my Hotspot never gets anything but warn – if I can even call it that.
I’ll save in my 1st year $580.00 over the T reseller and in the 2nd and sequential years a savings of $660.00, this does reflects the $780. T reseller yearly costs to me, and my 1st year equipment cost with PCs For People and that of the only charge thereafter in the Sprint Mobile Internet service. Very happy I can now put this money to better usage.
Thank, Steve
PS: Let’s hear more success stories and mega savings experienced.
Rae says
Thank you for this article! I am a senior citizen on a VERY fixed income .I decided to go for it and bought the hotspot and 1 year’s service. I have been using PCs for People service for about 6 weeks now and it is wonderful. The “process” of obtaining the service was painless and the people I communicated with were pleasant and informative.Set up was simple. And the price!!!! I cannot say enough about this company. Thanks again for bringing it to my attention.
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
Thanks for the input, Rae. We’re positive that our readers will find it helpful.
Steve says
@Alicia Cain September 2, 2016
Hi,
Q.- How do we connect the modem to the internet?
A.- Wireless as the modem is a hotspot device used on the
Sprint’s Network, with a data SIM installed. This is mobile
and is closely like that of cell phones method used except
for data only, no calls. No hardwire connection and unlike
a hardwired modem you can connect outside of the home as well.
[Key fact here is you must be within the Sprint network coverage]
For only one desktop or laptop a simple way to connect the
modem hotspot is with the supplied USB cable/charging cord.
More than one connection after this (USB method) the device
must be Wi-Fi capable up to 10 in count may be used.
Steve
Alicia Cain says
How do we connect the modem to the internet? I don’t have a landline. I’d hate to buy everything only to find I can’t use it.
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
Time for you to do a little Googling, Alicia. Try searching for the make and model of your router plus the words “user manual.” When you find the correct user manual, which should be an easy task, search for the answer to your question in that manual.
Steve says
@Heather August 31, 2016
Hi Heather,
I’d guess by your comment the household your apart of would qualify by the 200% of federal poverty guidelines, since it’s not receiving any Government assistance, (as you’ve stated).
2016 federal poverty guidelines-
http://familiesusa.org/product/federal-poverty-guidelines
Household Size pertaining to being below the 200% FGL that PCs For People would require in your households case.
1-$23,760, 2-32,040, 3-40,320, 4- 48,600, 5-56,880.
Heather, you’ve also said – “disorders kept me from working for a few yrs now”, have you / yourself looked into SSI or SSDI, and doing so may help with your feeling of “it makes me feel awful not being able to help” as it could be an aid to yourself and child. Dialing 211 from any phone could put in touch with your communities resources for help. Looking on your States website could help with information.
Your parents may not agree with this, and you need to establish the help that they may not always be able to give you and your child.
Good luck and I hope you enjoy PCs For People, as I have done for 5 months now. It’s really lived up to being a value to me after the first road bump of the initial expense.
Steve
Heather says
oh my goodness , I’m SO glad I found this site! me and my 19 mt old daughter live with my elderly parents and each month after they pay rent, buy groceries, essentials & pay other bills they’re basically completely broke! it makes me feel awful not being able to help(bc of mental disorders that have kept me from working for a few yrs now)..I was looking into finding a cheaper internet bc the price they pay now is rediculous so it’s a blessing finding this! we don’t get any govt assistance because my parents don’t believe in it (which to me doesn’t make much sense since they wld def qualify and they deserve the help) but hopefully I can get them to do this!
Melissa says
Thank you so very much… I’ve been checking this website just waiting & hoping for a Internet provider to come along that didn’t have the eligibility requirement that we had to have a child. Once I can save enough money I can’t wait to sign up for your services. Again thank you ?
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
We’re big fans of the PCs for People program (wow, glad we wrote that instead of saying it because it would be quite a tongue twister) and we’re glad it can help you.
Steve says
Dear Cheap Internet Administrator,
Yes I agree with you, that of the population these low-income
Internet programs are created for – deserve to be cut a little
slack. Then all answers given on your site should observe a 🙂
peaceful harmony to all, be free from hostility and prejudice,
and not of irrational, unreasonable, and inappropriate remarks.
Circumstances of any one fact to that of multiple factors
can lead ordinary people to encounter that of a temporary
or lasting situation to cause a low-income’s lifestyle.
More or less their already at one of the lowest periods in
their lives, witness to hurt and misfortune, feelings of a
lost state, not thinking clearly as a result of becoming
numb with a defeat that has lead to this phase in life.
Through one’s reaching out for answers here is a fact of
their seeking to self help, and it may very well be their
first steps taken in growing of a simple basic knowledge
to their preferment. The novice as opposed to an expert.
Not everyone understands a systematical way to finding
answers, what may be lucid to one may not be to another.
Keeping the focus on the question(s) at hand, should you
have a constructive answer to that of their question(s).
Leaving out any feeling in being that of a superior wit to
them, otherwise your personal delivery would be one of spite.
Your conscientious gift of grace will lead to good karma
indicative of regaining a worth to justify usefulness and
importance of ones life.
To give them a quality answer delivered with the acts of
kindness and tolerance is not only more pleasant to them
but, also being considerate to the reading community here.
Steve
Frustrated C says
Debbie said: “I am wondering if you do”…
Debbie, are you slow in the head? Does this site LOOK like the site being discussed? Does this site LOOK like the service provider’s, Sprint?
Sprint (and every) major carrier has a coverage map that can be searched by zip codes or other ways, such as city names or exact addresses.
Sprint has this coverage map right on their main site. Google has no problems finding this coverage map.
If only you didn’t have trouble comprehending!
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
Hey, c’mon, frustrated C. Cut Debbie a little slack. (But to tell the truth, you’ve only said what we think about a thousand times a day as we’re moderating the comments left by our readers.)
Debbie Lawless says
I am wondering if you do the zip code 26726? If not, do you know any company that does?
I am trying to help my mom out.
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
We are unable to track service availability down to the zip code level, Debbie. You’ll need to contact each of the Low-Income Internet service providers to find out which ones serve your area.
Paula Peterson says
I want to know if it’s available for where I live e690 hwy aa Broseley Mo 63932
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
We are unable to track the various programs down to the zip code level, Paula. But if you look at the list of low-income service providers, you may be able to figure it out. If not, contact customer service at your chosen company and ask if they service your address.
Steve says
@PP Hi,
Please look back at older comments-
Steve says August 10, 2016 at 4:12 pm
@ Lynett Aug. 7, 2016 9:24AM
second Q- & A- to her and link supplied for “Answered information”.
ABOUT REFUNDS.
You could try the service going with 3 months and modem. If you get service you can be happy with from 1st couple days – I believe you can up remainder months to a full 12 months at anytime only totaling 12 for the year. At 3 months you pay a little more than $10.- each.
YOUR Prior conversation to PCs For People before purchase will be about testing reception at your home and can maybe lead to special arrangement on getting pricing and additional remainder months of and for the years pricing. UNDERSTAND
You should contact PCs For People to find out about 1st. month refund also – cause as I read and understand it says unused months, so you will lose 1 month of 3 months paid. To be sure this is right and who pays modems return shipping as well. IF REFUNDED.
-SORRY BUT-
Mobile Citizen- We provide broadband service to schools, nonprofits and social welfare agencies. We do not sell directly to individuals.
Mobile Beacon- Who We Help Nonprofits, Schools , Libraries.
You need PCs For People to go through for service here.
I helped as much as I can, the balls in your court…
You need to talk to these companies now as they can and will help understand and which one to choose 🙂
Things to consider now – your budget, and in no peculiar order.
Reception at your location, service term, equipment needed (if rental on it), total pricing in an annual cost(s).
https://www.cheapinternet.com/low-income-internet
Thanks, Steve
Sophie says
I live in Irvine, Orange County California in the 92606 zip code and currently have cox for my internet. It’s about 38 a month and it killsme because I am underemployed oftentimes and even as almost full time employed , I only make 12 an hour . No kids and I probably make barely above the maximum for SNAP. Even when I was unemployed I didn’t qualify as it said I sm able bodied and would need to be working s certain number of hours to still qualify. Makes a lot of sense these crazy social rules. What gets me angry is the fact that I don’t have children or any that are eligible for free lunch and therefore I dont qualify. Like um getting punished for being a tesponsible person who chose to not have kids I couldn’t afford and yet there are fsmilies who get dirt cheap Internet at high speeds while I’m struggling badly.
Can someone give me an example of 200% below poverty line?
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
Sure, Sophie. The 2016 Federal Poverty Level Threshhold for a one-person household is $11,880. That means 200% of that amount would be $23,760. So if you make less than that amount per year, you should be eligible for the PCs for People program.
PP says
Thanks much on the impressive responses, Steve and CheapInternet.com Administrator!
Unfortunately, I’m located on the street where the weakest signal coverage area is (between grey and light purple color areas according to the links provided). May be it’s not a best idea to go with PCs For People for my case. However, Steve mentioned that his is fine with one bar.
Because of that, I looked into Mobile Beacon and Mobile Citizen, which they also go through Sprint network, and I cannot find the eligible zip code listed on their sites.
May I ask what other possible companies I could look into besides PCs For People? I think I should at least check out other possible internet providers (either hardwired or hot spot) before paying the 12-month service upfront and end up having weak signal at where I’m. Any thoughts to share?
PS: If there is a choice, do you prefer hotspot or hardwired to use at home considering they’re at similar cost?
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
Everyone has a different opinion on wireless vs hardwired, but we prefer wireless because we work on iPads. The next guy you ask could give you the opposite point of view.
You’re running out of options, PP. If none of the companies on our Low-Income Internet page work for you, we’re pretty much out of options.
Let’s see what Steve has to say.
Steve says
@Terry eberly August 15, 2016
Hi Terry,
Type your address or zip code in this form to check Sprint’s local
DATA coverage at your location. Be sure to use Data tab, not the Voice…
http://coverage.sprint.com/IMPACT.jsp
Q. cheap & fast internet for 2 laptops.
A. PCs For People service is Mobile in nature through a 4G LTE Hotspot modem which is capable of supporting 10 wireless devices, 1 wired (via USB).
Of the offered and available hotspots – do read some reviews (users) hands on experiences and make your choice.
Fast Internet would be better understood by the Sprint tower(s) serving your area and network load as to their signal strength delivered.
Same here use your location to see towers and signal strength.
http://www.deadcellzones.com/sprint.html
http://www.sensorly.com/map/4G/US/USA/Sprint/lte_310sprint#q=Endicott%2C+NY+13760%2C+USA|coverage
Sprints average 4G LTE download speeds are between 6-8 Mbps, with peak speeds of 25 Mbps on Sprint 4G LTE and over 100 Mbps on Sprint LTE Plus.
PCs For People offered 4G LTE Sprint mobile hotspot modems speed tests between 12-40Mbps.
@PP August 15, 2016
Hi PP,
Yes – PCs For People Internet service is a Wireless Data Mobile Internet, same type of setup as cell phones uses except the SIM card inside the hotspot is DATA only SIM type.
This means no hardwired modems like that of regular WIRED internet methods such as cable, fiber optic or DSL. Instead of the signal coming through a wire, it is sent through the air.
Which is mobile (often more costly) than per wired gigabytes used. Since it’s unlimited and from PCs For People no worry of high costs (in fact lowest cost I’ve ever seen offered per month).
Reliable or carry weaker signal, if your homes power goes off, the hotspot (fully charged) will last for 10 hours and if you own a laptop and it’s charged, during a power outage you still have
internet usage. I have mostly one bar showing on my hotspot at all times, still I have opened up to 20 websites/pages and downloads still seem just as fast.
Signal strength mostly would depend on towers location to yours and the towers load at any given time of day. No this is not a super duper type of speed at my location and some Vid’s do buffer.
Hey I can live with that – saving multi-hundreds of dollars yearly. For less than $200.00 (start up and service for the year), where else can you go to suit the best value found here?
If you do own a laptop and get the PCs For People Internet and modem you can be mobile with it, anywhere you get a signal from Sprints towers, the park, beach, lake, mountains or in your backyard.
I would say find some online Sprint conversations/forums (FreedomPop – Howardforums) and ask your questions about speed, Skype and Magic Jack phone service through Sprint a network.
I liked Cheap Internet Admin. answer to higher costs after the first year, as it’s valid and seen in print on PCs For People site.
Do know if you don’t sign up and they (PCs For People) have to close enrollment as per their info. of
“”We will not be able to distribute unlimited $10 per month LTE on Sprint’s network indefinitely.
Due to limited bandwidth, selling indefinitely could degrade the service of Sprint’s direct customers.””
On the same topic I do see that if you get in and stay in by meeting the qualification requirements yearly, you’ll be able to save each and every year that their in existence.
Thanks and I hope I’ve been able to answer your questions Terry and PP,
Steve
PS: Glad I was helpful Israel.
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
Thanks again, Steve.
Israel says
Thank you Steve and PC Administrator. I travel between Lake Elsinore, CA and Parker, Az and would like to take the hotspot with me to avoid using data on my phone and noticed on the coverage map that there were a few out of network or roaming areas and just wanted to make sure I wouldn’t be unknowingly be racking up roaming charges. Again thank you for your help
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
Our pleasure, Israel. And thanks again to the amazing Steve (whoever and wherever he is).
PP says
Thanks much. I read all previous comments. How different it could be to have the internet service via a hotspot device in terms of speed, like when Skype-ing, streaming a movie? It would also work for having a Major Jack phone line, correct? (Hope someone can provide any insight as these are more technical and experience based.)
The provider may raise the price somewhat significantly after the 1-year service is up, which some corporations get you in for cheaper first. It is a concern. Thoughts?
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
We doubt that PCs for People will raise its prices after the first year. Unlike the other organizations offering low-cost Internet, PCs is a non-profit whose only goal is providing inexpensive Internet service for low-income Americans.
PP says
Can you please explain why the required “wireless modem” for PCs for People internet is actually a hotspot device? I looked at their site (and all other providers’ sites), and it appears that the $74.95 mandatory device is a hotspot device. Is their internet service basically provided via a hotspot device?
I’m a bit confused on why their internet service is provided via a hotspot rather than the regular internet method such as fiber optic and DSL, to which the earlier might not be as reliable or carry weaker signal. Sorry if I sound naive.
I’m in CA, and a single unemployed person who need fast and unlimited internet to look for jobs. Would PCs for People suit the best?
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
We pause now and eagerly await the arrival of Steve The Answer Man.
Terry eberly says
Trying to find cheap & fast internet for 2 laptops. Do you have service in the Binghamton (Endicott) ny area.
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
To answer you own question, Terry, you just need to find out if the Sprint cell network covers your area.
Steve says
Dear Cheap Internet Administrator,
As for Israel question about – “If I use this mobile hotspot in a area that is in Data Roaming, will I be able to access the internet and will there be an extra charge?”
Short Answer: NO and NO
I would even add to your answer – one must be “in-network” (Sprint’s) to use the service “period”. As I find no mention of any Data Roaming on Mobile Beacon or PCs For People websites. I’d go as far to say, they offer no Roaming so you won’t see any additional charges.
To add – some answers that seem to relate to Israel’s question:
From your (above article) – Q&A email interview with May Sorensen, PCs for People’s Director of Finance and Business Administration.
I see the answer under “Mobile, cable or DSL? If mobile, what network do you run on. And, 3G or LTE or…?”
M. Sorensen answer – The service is mobile 4G LTE on Sprint’s network. Many of the client we provide service to have multiple housing arrangements over the course of a year. Having a mobile internet service and a laptop allow the families and individuals we service “*”to take their connection to the world with them wherever the road of life may lead (assuming there are Sprint towers).”*”
Q – …problem coming up with that kind of upfront payment…
M. Sorensen answer – We wanted to create a prepaid program where the client owns the device, pays as they go and
“*”there are no hidden fees or extra charges.”*”
Mobile Beacon:
http://www.mobilebeacon.org/recommended-open-internet-disclosures-for-mb-resellers/
DISCLOSURES:
# 2. The Provider provides the Service over its wireless network, using cell sites and frequencies licensed by the FCC. The Service is not available in all locations and “*”you will only be able to access the Service when within the operating range of the Provider’s network”*”, which may change from time in the sole discretion of the Provider.
PCs For People:
https://pcsrefurbished.com/transition/sprintTerms.pdf
Availability 5.a – The Service is not available in all locations and “*”you will only be able to access the Service when within the operating range of the Provider’s network”*”, which may change from time to time in the sole discretion of the Provider.
Are these the answers to Israel’s questions?
Thanks, Steve
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
Thanks again, Steve. We’re always impressed with you research capabilities.
Steve says
@ Israel August 12, 2016
Hi Israel,
Referring to Data Roaming, extra charge?
I use mine from a fixed location and haven’t had such concerns.
Questions like these should really be asked of PCsForPeople,
https://pcsrefurbished.com/about/contact.aspx
I really wished I had an answer for you but, I only will answer in the scope of which I can find the answers to, and then will give a “link” to that of these answers. Please understand.
It’s at most a complex arrangement – as I seem to think, that PCsForPeople has undertaken to bring it’s customers this high value Internet offering at deep cost cuts for us. Since you will be paying them directly, I suggest you contact them and understand any answers to your questions you may have. Preferably also having seen it in writing somewhere by a link given, in an email response – kept for your records, all this will help you later if any issues should arise.
Although, I’ve never experienced any wrong doings or bad advice and nasty answers from PCsForPeople staff. They are great in my book…, have always been nice, friendly and responsive to my enquiries. Besides saving me $$$ as the end result. I see many Pro’s and not one Con.
Complex arrangement is meant by the legalize of the Terms of Service, https://pcsrefurbished.com/transition/sprintTerms.pdf
PCsForPeople offers it’s Internet service by Sprint via Mobile Beacon, one or more of these could have in place exceptions that normal Sprint users would not have available to them.
Please Israel, be sure to post your findings to these your questions here on this thread.
Thanks, Steve
PS: CI Admin. I’m not an Expert but, will try and help when I can.
Thank you for your thoughts of me. Patients of my long answers.
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
Always appreciated, Steve. We wish we had a few other readers like you who knew as much about other programs as you know about PCs for People.
Israel says
If I use this mobile hotspot in a area that is in Data Roaming, will I be able to acess the internet and will there be an extra charge?
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
This is a pretty complex issue, Israel. We had to ask our tech guru and he said, “I don’t know. But overall, I think you need to be “in-network” to be able to use the data without extra charge. The best answer is that since every company and network has their own rules, and this is an important issue since if the data is accessed improperly it could be mean huge charges, we can only suggest that he contact the PCs for People and ask directly. We don’t want to possibly give a wrong answer.”
Of course, Steve, our resident PCs for People expert, will probably come up with a far more detailed, far more accurate answer. Steve?
Steve says
Dear CheapInternet.com Administrator,
I like to help – just as you like to inform and keep the News coming to us! Thanks for your nice words and this wonderful site as well as your sister site freegovernmentcellphone . net !
A lot of people and myself have benefited from all you do in keeping these sites up and running as well as updated. (: 🙂
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
Much appreciated, Steve.
Steve says
@ Lynett Aug. 7, 2016 9:24AM
Hi Lynett maybe this can help you.
Q.- I do not see New Brunswick, NJ on your list above.
A.- http://coverage.sprint.com/IMPACT.jsp?
Q.- I wanted to know if you do not like the service, can you receive a refund for the modem and whatever money was prepaid for service?
A.- Modem Return Policy – Items must be returned within 7 days from the date the device is received.
Subscription Refund Policy – Internet subscriptions may be refunded for any unused months remaining on your current subscription term.
Please see this link for Answered information I supplied here for you.
https://pcsrefurbished.com/about/internetFAQ.aspx
Personal information you still may need can be addressed to the PCsforPeople by this link-
https://pcsrefurbished.com/about/contact.aspx
It offers here the means of Mail, Phone, Email Support,
Web Contact form, for your convenience.
Hope you able to use this 🙂
Steve
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
Thanks, Steve! You’re always incredibly helpful with answers to questions about PCs for People.
Lynett says
Good afternoon,
I am in need of a cheap internet service. I am unemployed and furthering my education. Also, I have children in the house that need internet service. I have read everything about this program. The program sounds great. I am sorry if I might have missed this answer in the article. I wanted to know if you do not like the service, can you receive a refund for the modem and whatever money was prepaid for service? I cannot afford to just give away money. Also, I do not see New Brunswick, NJ on your list above. Is this service available in New Brunswick, NJ? Thank you for your time in advance.
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
We are always amazed at the variety of questions we receive here at CheapInternet.com. This is the first time we’ve heard this one, Lynett.
You’ll need to call your service provider’s customer service team to get an informed answer to your question. It’s the kind of thing that only they would know because each company has different policies. But we will say that we think very highly of PCs for People and if any company is likely to offer you a refund, we’d bet it would be this one.
In answer to your second question, we are unable to track availability down to the neighborhood level. You’ll need to contact PCs for People’s customer service team to ask that question — before you enroll.
Jodie Pierce says
Iam trying to get the application form for the CentryLink Basic ‘s low income, disabled. I sent one in but the guy at CenturyLink said it was the wrong one. It went to the Apopka, FL office. He said it was supposed to be the.one in Colorado or some place like that. Can you please help me get the right application. For CenturyLink Basic’s
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
You left this comment on our PCs for People page, Jodie. And we feel compelled to tell you that we consider it to be a vastly superior program than Internet Basics. Take a closer look at PCs for People if Sprint’s cell network covers your area:
https://www.cheapinternet.com/low-income-internet
Debra Girard says
Is this available in southern CA? Like Los Angeles?
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
It is available everywhere the Sprint cell network is available. We are, however, unable to tell you where it is available on a city-by-city basis. Talk to the good folks at PCs for People or Sprint to find out if it’s available in your area.
Ed Ward says
NH….Manchester ONLY?
wow/ that’s great
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
PCs for People offers its program wherever the Sprint cell network is available, Tony.
Julie Conkle says
I am 58, on SSI, and while I have a basic program with Time Warner, at almost $60 a month, it leaves me with little money for other things. If I could just go to internet only, I do have a smart TV, which is internet accessible, and could watch Netflix, etc. But I am in Zanesville, Ohio. Is it available here? If not, is there any program for me?
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
We are unable to check availability on a zip code-by-zip code basis, Julie, but a quick call to PCs for People will get you the answer.
You might also check out the other low-income programs available on this page:
https://www.cheapinternet.com/low-income-internet/att-access
Steve says
First – to CheapInternet.com Administrator (EDITED FOR LENGTH)
Second – to PCs for People / April 22, 2016 at 12:26 pm,
Thanks for your information offered about the Sprint service running your program. I found it most reassuring and helpful in understanding the differences completely. I also agree this is not a stripped-down version offered to that of poor (low-income) people but, the same service offered network wide and only difference being the price.
I would like to open up a discussion with you – to and for the people living on the edge of Sprint’s coverage or in fringe network areas.
I often have only one bar of service (seldom see two bars) and have read in other mediums that- “If there is no way to connect an external antenna to your device, you might consider a Wireless Amplifier/Repeater systems that boost cellular signal without needing a direct connection to your device.”
So my question is will Pcs for People in the coming future be able to offer Antenna’s or better yet, offer a low cost Wireless Amplifier/Repeater system, even that of a refurbished units would be helpful in a cost reduction as these units are expensive.
To help low-income people as myself to get the best signal possible and yes I live in a somewhat dead zone for all cell network signals as I had the same trouble with T-M here to, I lived here for 30 years and don’t plan to move.
Last thought to you would be to offer here a contact link to anyone reading this article, that would need help by any means of troubleshooting, connecting, questions answered. As we are not direct customers of Sprint and would help us greatly in giving us an understanding of where to reach out to in theses type situations.
I’m truly grateful to you and all there for helping me be digitally connected in this age where you just need it for many aspects of life.
Third – to Val / April 18, 2016 at 1:31 pm,
As a young teen earlier in my life, I often wondered why some people were as sweet as a new spring day and some were as salty as the ocean’s spray. (I’ll leave it there)… Except you truly do get more help from a sugar than a vinegar attitude.
I’m sure you have your reasons for such a comment but, you offer no proof – just complaints, not of any actions you’ve taken to get a better signal or reception and speed, so someone can help you. Really you don’t say much, except for waiting and cost in your comment.
It would be helpful to know as to anything’s you’ve tried in that of troubleshooting your PC setup like running as bare a system as is possible or that of trying different browsers in seeing if speed did increased to that of your connecting to the web.
Have you tried (since this is a mobile unit-Hotspot device) the Pcs for people / Sprint service comes from, like in trying that of a portable computer system such as a mobile phone or laptop/netbook, if these are within your research means, and then going to different locations and testing with these devices and what your experience are.
Maybe that of going to a close neighbor or relative’s house and seeing if the same experience is true with their PC’s computer systems in the connecting through your hotspot device and with that of the Sprint network.
I myself find in my own experiences it takes just as much energy of the body and mind to complain as it does to seek knowledge and solutions to troubles and problems in my life. Besides growing in the know and learning for the next time. Although complaining is faster but, far less gratifying to actual results.
My last thought to you (Val) is to consider the cost again, you said that “paying 75 for 6 months is not cheap”. A break down per month is only $12.50 for each month and it’s for Sprints 4G LTE unlimited service – there are no data caps, throttling to it.
You’d be hard pressed to find any service of 1 gigabyte capped offered at only $12.50 a month, not forgetting this is wireless (mobile) in nature which is always more costly than that of fixed (hard wired cable) service.
Val I’m not finding any facts of truth in your words – as limited as your statements were, also I’m not trying to hinder you in seeking help to your current situations.
Have you reached out to PCs for People, remembering that they are mostly a volunteer based group and any answers may or may not come as quickly as needed.
I would try them and give as much details to what you have experienced and tried to do in relief of it.
Thanks and God bless all 🙂
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
Well, Steve, you get the award for the longest comment ever left here at CheapInternet.com. We’ve read novels that were shorter. But you made a lot of very good points on a lot of different issues, so we thought we’d run all of it except for the introductory comment to the CheapInternet.com site administrator.
PCs for People says
The 4G LTE service plan PCs for People offers is unlimited –there are no data caps, throttling or slow lane. The service is the same service Sprint offers their retail customers, but at a fraction of the price. Our average recipient is a family of three living on $12,000 per year, so we have worked to ensure the program is as affordable as possible. Under this program 12 months of Unlimited mobile internet is $120 ($10 per month). Directly with Sprint 12 months of capped (30 GB plan) internet would cost $1,320.
Perhaps you’re referring to Sprint’s Quality of Service (QoS)? QoS is not a slow lane for poor people, rather it is part of Sprint’s service for all customers. It does not automatically kick in after reaching a certain data allotment. With throttling, your speeds will automatically be reduced as soon as a certain data allotment is reached, regardless of network capacity. QoS only is triggered during periods of network congestion and is re-evaluated every nanosecond. With thousands of users we have never had a complaint as this is generally not noticeable for users. Lower bandwith users will not experience QoS, higher users may experience a temporary slowdown for a few seconds, a few minutes, a few hours, or not at all. And that will cease as soon as network resources are freed up (unlike throttling where you are stuck with lower speeds for the remainder of your billing cycle). QoS is also different from throttling in that your speeds are not dramatically reduced to, say, 156 Kpbs. With Sprint’s LTE service, even IF experiencing QoS, users may still see high download speeds.
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
Thanks to PCs for People for clearing up our reader’s comments. We think very highly of PCs for People and appreciate their comments.
val says
PC’S for People internet is not low cost, paying 75 for 6 months is not cheap when you have to wait to get on the internet every time you use the computer wait waiting all the time. Its frustrating and stressful and time consuming, its not a help, It says you are poor so wait for what every one else gets in seconds…Crappy is what it is and on top of that they charge you for everything under the guises its for ‘poor people” Liars
ALBERT J SCHEPIS says
Are there any low cost internet services available to low income (Lifeline) customers of Verizon (now Frontier phone & internet service) in California?
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
The service discussed in this article may be able to help you.
You might also check out FreeGovernmentCellPhones.net, our sister website. Click on the “States” link at the top of the page and then on “California.” Check out the service providers listed because some of them now offers smartphones and limited data plans that may satisfy your needs.
Good luck.
Steve says
Thanks – Cheap Internet for a well covered article on the company PCs for People.
Who was the author of it? Liked to know, they did a good job.
They covered a lot of details of the program, and I only hope that many of your readers of all ages are keen to understand the opportunity offered to them within this fantastic company and their programs. Just wished there were more companies like it.
Thank you for going the distance to help us understand it and sharing your findings and conversation.
I ordered my internet online from PCs for People, had the device (hotspot) in three days, and I’m enjoying the service, device, and company thus far. No problems at all.
Hope you continue to bring us news and great articles to help make our digital worlds better, brighter, and connected.
Thank you 🙂 and God Bless
CheapInternet.com Administrator says
Hey, Steve, you deserve the credit for alerting us (and our readers) to this terrific organization. So thanks on behalf of all of us.